Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-02-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/09/2007 at 11:04 AM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Are you just adding another reason for not using a TFS for /tmp or >are you making a different point? No, a reason for not using TFS for /var. I quoted the wrong text in front of my response. Sorry. >It

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:32:59 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/2007 > at 04:15 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>No. Some shops do use a TFS for /tmp, but it is documented / warned >>that it is not good to make it a TFS beca

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-02-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/2007 at 04:15 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >No. Some shops do use a TFS for /tmp, but it is documented / warned >that it is not good to make it a TFS because of its size (which takes >away from the kernel) and also that dumps and vi recovery files

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-02-09 Thread Staller, Allan
...not good to make it a TFS because of its size (which takes away from the kernel) and also that dumps and vi recovery files go there and you would lose them with an IPL. The TFS can be run in a colony address space to reduce pressure on the kernel -

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-02-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:28:55 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/24/2007 > at 11:31 AM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Before I ever changed /var to a TFS (way back when), I *though* I >>read somewhere that IBM would never put persi

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-02-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/24/2007 at 11:31 AM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Before I ever changed /var to a TFS (way back when), I *though* I >read somewhere that IBM would never put persistent data in it. Could you be thinking of a statement that IBM would never put persistent d

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-25 Thread Tom Russell
>YES, but it's not a "now" thing. There are elements that store "persistent" >data in /var, and it is expected that this data is there between IPLs. >Here's the list of z/OS elements that use /var in this manner. (I'm >guessing that you don't use these elements, as you haven't encountered >probl

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:59:01 -0600, Marna WALLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark, >YES, but it's not a "now" thing. There are elements that store "persistent" >data in /var, and it is expected that this data is there between IPLs. >Here's the list of z/OS elements that use /var in this manner. (

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-24 Thread Marna WALLE
Mark, YES, but it's not a "now" thing. There are elements that store "persistent" data in /var, and it is expected that this data is there between IPLs. Here's the list of z/OS elements that use /var in this manner. (I'm guessing that you don't use these elements, as you haven't encountered probl

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:43:23 +1000, Shane Ginnane > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >If this is in relation to the changes to /var and /etc in z/OS 1.7, > >you'll have to manually deal with that. T

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:43:23 +1000, Shane Ginnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If this is in relation to the changes to /var and /etc in z/OS 1.7, you'll >have to manually deal with that. There's some tips in the migration guide. > We skipped 1.7 and just got notification my 1.8 order is ready.

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
> > Is there some existing documentation that details the steps necesary to > apply smp/e maintenance to USS on z/OS 1.4 ? > > I know you have to follow some procedure involving the file systems and > having them in service mode. But I can't find where it is > explained. If this is in relation t

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-23 Thread Roberto Halais
on Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Unix System Services Maintenance Listers: Is there some existing documentation that details the s

Re: Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-23 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
ry 23, 2007 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Unix System Services Maintenance Listers: Is there some existing documentation that details the steps necesary to apply smp/e maintenance to USS on z/OS 1.4 ? I know you have to follow some procedure involving the file systems and having them

Unix System Services Maintenance

2007-01-23 Thread Roberto Halais
Listers: Is there some existing documentation that details the steps necesary to apply smp/e maintenance to USS on z/OS 1.4 ? I know you have to follow some procedure involving the file systems and having them in service mode. But I can't find where it is explained. TIA. Kind regards, Roberto