VTOC trashed?

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
Hi all, ISPF Option 3.4 with just the volser, I receive message in the upper right corner of the screen. "Incomplete VTOC list" PF1 shows "Index entry not included because VTOC entry does not exist." I assume this dasd is trashed and need to be re-inited? The data sets are still working. I can

VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
I was able to run a List VTOC. It looks normal. DATE: 2006.265 TIME: 12.03.51 CONTENTS OF VTOC ON VOL SYS501 THERE IS A 1 LEVEL VTOC INDEX DATA SETS ARE LISTED IN ALPHANUMERIC ORDER . THERE ARE 2121 EMPTY CYLINDERS PLUS58 EMPTY TRACKS ON THIS VOLUME THERE ARE3559 BLANK DSCBS IN

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-22 Thread Alan C. Field
5 Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject VTOC trashed? Hi all, ISPF Option 3.4 with just the volser, I receive message in the upper right corner of the screen. "Incomplete VTOC list" PF1 shows "Index entry not included because

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I would attempt to migrate as much data off as possible, or backing up, before anything else. Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford & Company PH: 770 621 3256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-22 Thread Cliff McNeill
Discussion List 09/22/2006 09:35 Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject VTOC trashed? Hi all, ISPF Option 3.4 with just the volser, I receive message in the upper right corner of the screen. "Incomplete VTOC list" PF1 shows "Index

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Bruce Black
Mike, does the VTOCIX (SYS1.VTOCIX.xx) appear in the LISTVTOC? If not, that seems to match your error message. Or could the message have been refering to the index component of some VSAM file? Can you tell if an index which should be on the volume is missing?? An IDCAMS DIAGOSE of the

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
These show up in the list VTOC SYS1.VTOCIX.SYS501 SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501 This one seems to missing the index SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER.DATA On 9/22/06, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike, does the VTOCIX (SYS1.VTOCIX.xx) appear in the LISTVTOC? If not, that seems t

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Bruce Black
This one seems to missing the index SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER.DATA It may be an ESDS or another type that has no index. Do a LISTCAT on the cluster name to see what the component names should be. The DIAGNOSE should also pick this up if it is really missing -- Bruce A. Bla

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/22/2006 11:12:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: THERE ARE 2121 EMPTY CYLINDERS PLUS58 EMPTY TRACKS ON THIS VOLUME THERE ARE3559 BLANK DSCBS IN THE VTOC ON THIS VOLUME THERE ARE285 UNALLOCATED VIRS IN THE INDEX >> Maybe the VTOC'

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/22/2006 11:21:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An IDCAMS DIAGOSE of the VVDS might find this problem >> Oh, might start digging in the EREP logs to see if there's been a hardware hit on this pack. If you do History logging of EREP should show

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
Listc shows... does not appear to be an error ASSOCIATIONS CLUSTER--SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER ASSOCIATIONS DATA-SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER.DATA DATA --- SYSV.ING02.TAKEOVER.DATA -- Thanks, Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/22/2006 12:26:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Listc shows... does not appear to be an error >> How about the DIAGNOSE? What happens if you just try to print the file? If it's too big can just print to DD DUMMY. -

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/22/2006 12:34:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about the DIAGNOSE? What happens if you just try to print the file? If it's too big can just print to DD DUMMY. >> Oh, IEHLIST for the pack. LISTVTOC will show any overlaps. Haven't had to

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Gabe Torres
..really interested in this thread,.. We have some sysprogs that maintain their systems that share a disk volume across separate, nonsysplexed Lpars. Datasets accessed/updated from different systems,.. no GRS protection. So I am curious if this is a situation that could clobber a vtoc. gabe >> Ma

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
Ran this.. //DIAG EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * DIAGNOSE VVDS IDS(SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501) /* No errors listed. On 9/22/06, Gabe Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ..really interested in this thread,.. We have some sysprogs that maintain their systems that share a d

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
I'd be glad to send anybody the complete problem / resolution when the problem is fixed. The list rejected an early email because it had too many replies. Thanks,Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruct

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Bruce Black
..really interested in this thread,.. We have some sysprogs that maintain their systems that share a disk volume across separate, nonsysplexed Lpars. Datasets accessed/updated from different systems,.. no GRS protection. So I am curious if this is a situation that could clobber a vtoc. No. Upda

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
This command found the problem? No VVDS? listc ent(/) allDS.VSYS501 SYS501 IDC3012I ENTRY SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501 NOT FOUND+ IDC1566I ** SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501 NOT LISTED IDC0014I LASTCC=4 IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42 *** On 9/22/06, Mike Szyszka <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
It seems DIAGNOSE that was run previous did not find the error? On 9/22/06, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ..really interested in this thread,.. We have some sysprogs that > maintain their systems that share a disk volume across separate, > nonsysplexed Lpars. Datasets accessed/up

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/22/2006 1:04:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This command found the problem? No VVDS? >> So all VSAM on the pack is gone? Maybe somebody else can answer, I don't know if a REFVTOC will make a new VVDS or not. If I had to fix it I'd dump it t

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Bruce Black
The VVDS is unique among VSAM files in that it does not have to be cataloged, and it can be cataloged in multiple catalogs (every catalog that references datasets on the volume). So the fact that it is not in the master catalog (which is where your LISTCAT would look) is not an error. The VVD

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-22 Thread R.S.
Mike Szyszka wrote: Hi all, ISPF Option 3.4 with just the volser, I receive message in the upper right corner of the screen. "Incomplete VTOC list" PF1 shows "Index entry not included because VTOC entry does not exist." I assume this dasd is trashed and need to be re-inited? The data sets are

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Szyszka
ISPF 3.4 shows this SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501 SYS501 This command founds an error listc ent(/) allDS.VSYS501 SYS501 IDC3012I ENTRY SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501 NOT FOUND+ IDC1566I ** SYS1.VVDS.VSYS501 NOT LISTED IDC0014I L

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Datasets accessed/updated from different systems,.. no GRS protection. So I am >curious if this is a situation that could clobber a vtoc. Not if you are doing reserve/release processing. (Though, it is a performance hit). When in doubt. PANIC!! -

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/22/2006 1:35:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like a buildix is next? >> Guess I'd try a BR14 on it first. //S1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=&&TEMP,VOL=SER=vv,UNIT=3390,SPACE=(TRK,(10)), // DISP=(NEW,PASS) If the IX is brok

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Mason
the benefit of the youngsters) These stories are from the bad old days before TSO. - Original Message - From: "Mike Szyszka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, 22 September, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: VTOC trashed? > Hi all, > > IS

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-25 Thread Arthur T.
On 25 Sep 2006 12:12:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) wrote: I was the naively "smart" one - had too quickly keyed up a SCRATCH VTOC,VOL=2314=whtevr,SYS card for my IEHPROGM cards. The "too quickly" means that the comma befo

Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-26 Thread Hal Merritt
22, 2006 9:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: VTOC trashed? Hi all, ISPF Option 3.4 with just the volser, I receive message in the upper right corner of the screen. "Incomplete VTOC list" PF1 shows "Index entry not included because VTOC entry does not exist." I assume

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/22/2006 at 02:14 PM, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >So all VSAM on the pack is gone? Maybe somebody else can answer, I >don't know if a REFVTOC will make a new VVDS or not. It certainly won't fill in the missing catalog information. Do you[1] have a recen

Re: VTOC trashed

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Szyszka
No- problem is still here... have a pressing matter to ask you all. New message. On 9/27/06, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/22/2006 at 02:14 PM, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >So all VSAM on the pack is gone? Maybe somebody else can