Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Mark, I'm suitably impressed. You can do this with some of the database reorg software, but they aren't part of the base OS. I can understand some of the OP's frustration now. Ron If it was a file on a Linux system using LVM, I could move the physical extents that hold that file anywhere

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 07:26 +0200, Michael Klaeschen wrote: Ravi, thanks for your reply. I was told a Softek product may provide this function as part of data migration support. But no, we just have z/OS and a couple of Redbooks, Whitepapers and the ringing sound of IBM sales

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Rob Schramm
Depending on the filesystem .. you should be able to at least minimize the downtime... and not require an IPL. OMVS is restartable. Just create a new filesystem/dataset, copy everything into it, stop the application and swap the new one for the old one, restart app, copy any missing files from

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Staller, Allan
z/OS TCPIP will work just fine with only the default root (the root that is mounted if there is an error in BPXPRM**). It also supports a altroot file system. This sounds to me like a planning/data placement failure, not a sysplex design point failure. /snip I was told a Softek product may

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The IBM rep should have said: The z means zero __unplanned__ downtime.. I am not aware of any OS on any platform which does not require an occasional re-initialization (reboot, IPL, whatever I think you've misunderstood IBM's intent. With Parallel SYSPLEX, shared everything, IMSPLEX, and/or

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Klaeschen Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set Ravi, thanks for your reply. I was told a Softek product may

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread McKown, John
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set The IBM rep should have said: The z means zero __unplanned__ downtime.. I am

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Mike Schwab
If you take frequent checkpoints, you could cancel, back out to the last check point, then restart on another system. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:47 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I guess zero downtime would require that all server type functionality be duplexed on

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Post
On 4/12/2011 at 11:18 AM, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I would like to know what other OS supports transparently moving an open file without disrupting the application that has it open. If it was a file on a Linux system using LVM, I could move the physical extents

moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-11 Thread Michael Klaeschen
Hi, we have a VSAM linear data set which is allocated read/write to an ASID. Now, the extents have to be moved to another VolSer without affecting the ASID. How to do? IDCAMS ALTER ADD/REMOVEVOLUMES or REPRO do not seem to work for VolSers with allocated extents that are opened. Thank you,

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-11 Thread Ravi Gaur
Do you have any third party tool? to do so... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-11 Thread Michael Klaeschen
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