Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-28 Thread Bill Fairchild
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: why compression costs additional I/O? Hi Yifat, Thanks for answer - you are right! - I 've

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-28 Thread Yifat Oren
Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: why compression costs additional I/O? Peter, Yes for your example I am recommending NCP=96, which means BUFNO=96. I habitually put both NCP and BUFNO on BSAM files because I've never been sure if BSAM cal

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
n Behalf Of > Farley, Peter x23353 > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] why compression costs additional I/O? > > Ron, > > If a PS-E dataset has 6 stripes, are you recommending using NCP=96 (=16 > * 6)? If so, what BUF

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: why compression costs additional I/O? > > Pawel, > > For a regular DSORG=PS dataset DFSORT and SYNCSORT use their own access > method to read and write the SORTIN and SORTOUT using very efficient long > chained Start Sub-Channels. The E

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
the start and end of the SORT. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Pawel Leszczynski > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:56 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] why compression co

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Pawel Leszczynski wrote: generally all of it probably mean that using DFSORT for compressed datasets is not good idea. The EXCP access method is not supported for extended sequential data sets--whether compressed or not, striped or not. I/O for these data sets is performed by Media Manager

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread David Betten
s.ibm.com DFSORT/MVSontheweb at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/27/2010 10:23:22 AM: > [image removed] > > Re: why compression costs additional I/O? > > Pawel Leszczynski > > to: > > IBM-MAIN > > 01/27/2010 10:26 AM >

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
010 12:56 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: why compression costs additional I/O? > >Hello everybody, >Recently we are reviewing our EndOfDay jobs looking for potential >performance improvements (reducing CPU/elapsed time). >We have several jobs sorting big datasets where out

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Yifat Oren
. Hope that helps, Yifat Oren. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: why compression costs additional I/O? Hello everybody, Recently

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:28:56 +0100, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2010-01-27 11:55, Pawel Leszczynski pisze: >> Hello everybody, >> Recently we are reviewing our EndOfDay jobs looking for potential performance >> improvements (reducing CPU/elapsed time). >> We have several jobs sorting big datasets where

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread John Kington
Pawel, >Hello everybody, >Recently we are reviewing our EndOfDay jobs looking for potential >performance >improvements (reducing CPU/elapsed time). >We have several jobs sorting big datasets where output is SMS-compressible >(type: EXTENDED) datasets. >When we compare such sorting with sorting on

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread NIGEL WOLFENDALE
f 5 - or any larger number you specified originally, Nigel  Nigel Wolfendale nigel.wolfend...@btinternet.com +44(0)1494 723092 +966(0)540217367 From: R.S. To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010 14:28:56 Subject: Re: why compression costs addi

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-01-27 11:55, Pawel Leszczynski pisze: Hello everybody, Recently we are reviewing our EndOfDay jobs looking for potential performance improvements (reducing CPU/elapsed time). We have several jobs sorting big datasets where output is SMS-compressible (type: EXTENDED) datasets. When we

why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-27 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
Hello everybody, Recently we are reviewing our EndOfDay jobs looking for potential performance improvements (reducing CPU/elapsed time). We have several jobs sorting big datasets where output is SMS-compressible (type: EXTENDED) datasets. When we compare such sorting with sorting on non-compress