... I don't know about
FTPS or SFTP (variant of ssh). Can someone suggest a publicly
accessible site(s) I can experiment with?
testcase.boulder.ibm.com supports FTPS.
Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
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In 1BA00CBB414DA34AA25ED82F4647CDE20621604B42@MAIL02.fisalan.nycnet,
on 04/12/2012
at 10:05 AM, Sevetson, Phil psevet...@fisa.nyc.gov said:
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet,
Really? Is it magic? Because if it isn't magic then it doesn't address
the issue. NTW, you might ask
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b3...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 04/13/2012
at 10:16 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
I do like the PDFs. I have all the CICS and z/OS system PDFs
downloaded to my PC and on my Kindle DX. I don't like reading them
on my PC due to the
feel in control
you just aren't going fast enough.
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Art Gutowski
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
On Thu
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:34:55 -0600, Jerry Whitteridge wrote:
Yup - absolutely agree with Mary Anne. Base FTP has been disabled in this shop
for years on the Mainframe. Only FTPS is accepted. Outgoing FTP has to be
justified to all and sundry why we cannot use a secure method.
I believe my
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 00:54 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
-Original Message-
snip
And, I've always found FTPS (granted no client identification certs yet)
easier.
None of that USS , sometimes called OMVS, perhaps properly called z/OS Unix
System Services, involved :)
Actually, I
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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Secure FTP (Was: z/OS every two years)
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 00:54 +, Gibney, Dave wrote
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:05:37 -0400, Sevetson, Phil psevet...@fisa.nyc.gov
wrote:
Bookreader? Really??
YES.
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet, where you can get good
documentation from what IBM calls their website. ... PDF and Info Center (I
much prefer the former, frankly)...
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:50:01 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS jan.moeyers...@adelior.be
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:05:37 -0400, Sevetson, Phil psevet...@fisa.nyc.gov
wrote:
Bookreader? Really??
YES.
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet, where you can get good
documentation from what IBM
Company.SM
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:04 PM
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:01:57 -0500
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 04/13/2012
05:50:01 AM:
From: Jan MOEYERSONS jan.moeyers...@adelior.be
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: 04/13/2012 05:51 AM
Subject: Re: z/OS every two
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Goossen
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:45 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
I find both PDF and Info Center easily navigable
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:45 -0500, Jonathan Goossen wrote:
I find both PDF and Info Center easily navigable.
snip
IMO it is a matter of what we get use to.
Perhaps it is a matter of what we are used to.
Earlier today, someone asked me a question about LARGEDS
support for JES2 SPOOL and I
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:30 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com
wrote:
In the fourth quarter of 2012, IBM plans to make secure delivery via FTP using
Secure Sockets Layer (FTPS) an option for Internet delivery of ServerPac,
CBPDO, SystemPac®, FunctionPac, ProductPac®, and Internet
On 4/13/2012 5:04 PM, Art Gutowski wrote:
I see. Anyone else share in Mary Anne's sentiment? In other words, is FTPS
(or SFTP?) as much a requirement/priority notwithstanding the impending
ShopzSeries / RECEIVE ORDER requirement? If so, and you can respond, please
drop me a line off-list.
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Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:23 PM
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Subject: Secure FTP (Was: z/OS every two years)
On 4/13/2012 5:04 PM, Art Gutowski wrote:
I see. Anyone
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:14:43 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
Documentation in Bookreader format will no longer be available!
That's horrible!
Indeed, it is.
Should we not make it a requirement (Share or otherwise) to have documentation
in Bookreader format?
Cheers,
Jantje.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:14:28 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com
wrote:
There's also some info about secure FTP:
In the fourth quarter of 2012, IBM plans to make secure delivery via FTP using
Secure Sockets Layer (FTPS) an option for Internet delivery of ServerPac,
CBPDO, SystemPac®,
-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Jan MOEYERSONS
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:50 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:14:43 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote
Bookreader? Really??
Like a number of other people, I prefer PDF when printing and Bookmanager when
searching. The elimination of Bookmanager is unfortunate but not surprising.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:14:43 +0200, R.S.r.skoru...@snip-it.com.pl wrote:
Documentation in Bookreader format will no longer be available!
That's horrible!
Indeed, it is.
Should we not make it a requirement
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Bob Shannon
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
Bookreader? Really??
Like a number of other people, I prefer PDF when printing and Bookmanager when
searching. The elimination
, recovering Bookmanager addict
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:14
: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
I will fight for BOO format.
Where to demonstrate? Any riot?
Really outraged
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W dniu 2012-04-12 16:05, Sevetson, Phil pisze
Message-
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S.
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:12 AM
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I will fight for BOO format.
Where to demonstrate? Any riot
Of Jan MOEYERSONS
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:14:43 +0200, R.S.r.skoru...@snip-it.com.pl wrote:
Documentation in Bookreader format will no longer be available!
That's
Sevetson, Phil wrote:
Bookreader? Really??
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet, where you can get good
documentation from what IBM calls their website. ... PDF and Info Center (I
much prefer the former, frankly)... fully searchable...
How do you download all those bookshelves and
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:08:07 +, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
Bookreader? Really??
Like a number of other people, I prefer PDF when printing and Bookmanager when
searching. The elimination of Bookmanager is unfortunate but not surprising.
Ditto. I keep bookmanager
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:35:30 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
How do you download all those bookshelves and indexes in one swift swoop like
I do with 'Soft Copy Librarian'? And then search here on your local PC or
shared network folder?
I use SoftCopy
In a client where I work a few years ago, we send the pdf manuals received
for each product version or z/OS to USS under html and access via web to
our hosting LPAR.
2012/4/12 Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:08:07 +, Bob Shannon
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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In a client where I work a few years
This is very good news.
Curious. How so?
Art, we don't need to go through explaining why we're not using FTP, getting a
waiver for using it, etc with the isso's and auditors, every time our lpars are
scanned.
MA
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In a client where I work a few years ago, we send the pdf
manuals received
for each product version or z/OS to USS
W dniu 2012-04-12 17:20, McKown, John pisze:
We pdf files on a Windows share. The only problem with this is in a
D.R. situation, because that share is deemed non critical and not
restored during a test. Which is why I need BookManager. At our DR
provider, the PC's used to connect to z/OS are not
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:25:27 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
At least I would like the BOOKFIND command with its cursor sensitive arguments
to keep working.
Do you really need the BOO format? Will a PDF reader with good searchable
index and BOOKFIND PDF support do too?
Too much bandwidth.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:01:57 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
I use SoftCopy librarian to download / manage PDF bookshelves (per my last
post - for example, Tivoli since
bookmanager format is not available).
Is it ecumenical, or does it require a particular OS?
-- gil
of TennesseeSM and The
MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS every two years
Well,
Finally IBM has released the official announcement about releasing z/OS
every two years:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=877letternum=ENUSZP12-0025
Also, the next z/OS version, released in the second half of 2013, will be
z/OS
There's also some info about secure FTP:
In the fourth quarter of 2012, IBM plans to make secure delivery via FTP using
Secure Sockets Layer (FTPS) an option for Internet delivery of ServerPac,
CBPDO, SystemPac®, FunctionPac, ProductPac®, and Internet delivery of
PTFs ordered using ShopzSeries
.
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Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] z/OS every two years (Official announcment)
Well
Documentation in Bookreader format will no longer be available!
That's horrible!
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
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Date: 03/27/2012 06:09 PM
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Not official. But plan on it. Official releases in Sept of odd years.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Andy Whiteawh...@metlife.com wrote
September 2013, but not officially announced.
Bob
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Mark Jacobs
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:35 AM
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Subject: Re: z/os every two years
Does anyone know when zOS
:Re: z/os every two years
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Not official. But plan on it. Official releases in Sept of odd years.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Andy Whiteawh...@metlife.com wrote:
Does anyone know when IBM is going to make
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Not official. But plan on it. Official releases in Sept
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Subject: Re: z/os every two years
zOS V1R11 is out of support at 30/09/2011, with this new issue
A good guess, but until there's an official notification I can't plan on
supposition.
Then you will be wrong. In this case plan on supposition.
Bob Shannon
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Methinks you have inside information :-)
On 03/28/12 07:58, Bob Shannon wrote:
A good guess, but until there's an official notification I can't plan on
supposition.
Then you will be wrong. In this case plan on supposition.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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, March 28, 2012 8:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/os every two years
Methinks you have inside information :-)
On 03/28/12 07:58, Bob Shannon wrote:
A good guess, but until there's an official notification I can't plan on
supposition.
Then you will be wrong. In this case
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Bob Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/os every two years
I attended SHARE. I looked at the positions the speakers have at IBM and
concluded it's a done deal. Too much horsepower to be sending the wrong
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:16:34 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com
wrote:
I agree that it is a done deal, however that I think it IS the wrong message.
Too many users have based their procedures on the current schedule and waiting
two years for new releases will just slow down the
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:27:44 -0500, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
I tend to agree. Too many shops I know of only upgrade because they don't
want to go beyond the EOS date.
But as long as we are supposing here. Will they not extend the service
discontinued date for 1.11 also? As it
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:16:29 -0500, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:27:44 -0500, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
I tend to agree. Too many shops I know of only upgrade because they don't
want to go beyond the EOS date.
But as long as we are supposing
On 3/28/2012 4:41 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez wrote:
zOS V1R11 is out of support at 30/09/2011, with this new issue z/OS V1R14
will be available from 2013 and not 2012, so probably V1R12 will be out of
support about from 2014?
No. This is incorrect. z/OS 1.11 goes out of support _this_ year... in
On 3/28/2012 5:08 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
I attended SHARE. I looked at the positions the speakers have at IBM and
concluded it's a done deal. Too much horsepower to be sending the wrong message.
Jeff Magdall (z/OS Product Development Team Leader) presented this information
at the MVS Program
On 3/28/2012 7:16 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote:
But as long as we are supposing here. Will they not extend the service
discontinued date for 1.11 also?
Asked and answered at the MVS Program Opening in Atlanta. The answer
(paraphrased) from Jeff Magdall was, z/OS 1.11 will go out of service
Starting a new thread:
One of the benefits of this change is supposed to allow shops to focus more
on business growth. I do see that as a potential benefit. I can also see it
saving money for some of the larger shops that basically spend a year
ordering, installing and rolling out a new
Greetings to All,
This link may help -
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html
Linda
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From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:10:11 AM
Subject: Re: z/os every
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:35:03 +, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net
wrote:
This link may help -
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html
Not really. :-) It doesn't take into account the changes that will be announced.
It isn't wrong since the z/OS 1.12 date
Edward, I mean 2012, thanks for the correction.
2012/3/28 Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
On 3/28/2012 4:41 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez wrote:
zOS V1R11 is out of support at 30/09/2011, with this new issue z/OS V1R14
will be available from 2013 and not 2012, so probably V1R12 will be
Does anyone know when IBM is going to make this official? It is official?
I am putting together 2013 projects and we normally up to now did upgrades
once a year.
http://blogs.realdolmen.com/experts/2012/03/13/a-new-zos-release-every-2-year/
Andy S. White
Not official. But plan on it. Official releases in Sept of odd years.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Andy White awh...@metlife.com wrote:
Does anyone know when IBM is going to make this official? It is official?
I am putting together 2013 projects and we normally up to now did upgrades
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: 03/27/2012 06:09 PM
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Not official. But plan on it. Official releases in Sept
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