From where I am sitting (Belgium) neither the archives nor the web version
of the list itself are reachable.
The browser does make a connection to the website, but then just stalls
trying to retrieve any information from it. Has been so consistently for
the last three days.
Darren, time to
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:16:16 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Yes... as of about 10 a.m. central time it has been working.
The web interface was working fine for me yesterday. Today,
it is back to acting like it was for a week or so before it seemed
to be down altogether for a couple of days. I see
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:49:55 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
wrote:
What is the most secure computer? The one that is powered off and locked in a
vault!
...cast in concrete and scuttled to the ocean floor. And even then, I'm not
certain.
Art
Art Gutowski wrote:
McKown, John wrote:
What is the most secure computer? The one that is powered off and locked in a
vault!
...cast in concrete and scuttled to the ocean floor. And even then, I'm not
certain.
Of course, you are NOT certain! You forgot to do the same for ALL media (tapes,
What would cause a panel to take 10 seconds to display. when the system is
running at 20%.
Here is the panel that is giving the problem
)ATTR
# AREA(DYNAMIC) EXTEND(ON) SCROLL(ON) DATAMOD(01)
14 TYPE(DATAIN) INTENS(LOW)
15 TYPE(DATAIN) INTENS(LOW)
16 TYPE(DATAIN) INTENS(LOW)
17
I would not assume that a license holder has the ability to transfer his
license on his own.
You should check with the vendor to be sure you are in compliance with the
TC of that license.
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Behalf Of
Is it possible that the process that populates the DYNAREA variable is the
culprit? Or have you already ruled that out?
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how you invoking it, i mean TSo , ISPF env... have you tried a batch and a
systrap for logs?
the clist doesnt look suspicious... unless the Area and/or the user space
allocations for buffers.
thanks,
Amit
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, John Norgauer
john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu wrote:
Allan Staller has put you on the right track - gather information from experts
on what *is* considered best practices. This will be needed for the management
response to this finding.
If you can, ask the auditor where this recommendation came from. Who is it that
claims this is a best
I never got into the inner workings of panels or dialogs so I do know
about the process that populates the DYNAREA
Any suggestion about how I can learn about this?
Thanks
John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical
The panel is executed in ISPF from the ISPF Primary option menu.
John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536
SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until
What does the vendor recommend?
On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 14:11:03 -0500, zOSdude wrote:
Our auditors (Feds) say we need to apply all new PTF's within 30 days of
availability. I'm speechless. Does anyone have the patience to form a cogent
argument without laughing, crying, or tying one on?
I told my
A fast test with Enterprise COBOL 3.4.1 got an error message:
1PP 5655-G53 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS 3.4.1 ABEND0C7 Date
08/03/2012 Time 10:48:07 Page 5
LineID PL SL
+-*A-1-B--+2+3+4+5+6+7-|--+8
Map and Cross
There is a copyright doctrine called first sale that basically says that
when you buy a legal copy of something you can re-sell it as you wish. I
would be violating copyright law if I made copies of a Spiderman movie and
sold them, but I can legally sell the copy that I bought down at the video
Hmmm. Not seeing errors from EC at the customer. I wonder if that REMARKS
line is somehow significant. (And Yes, I can test that and no I have not
yet.)
I will repost here the preceding lines, and also the lines I posted before
as Outlook+Listserve garbled it a bit.
1 2
Charles Mills wrote:
Is anyone a COBOL syntax expert?
I'm only a programmer who occassionally write COBOL programs and giving advice
in case of more serious compiling problems.
So, I'm NOT an expert. Trust me on this one! ;-)
The code is accepted without error by the IBM Enterprise COBOL
But usually software developers don't sell copies of the software, they sell
licenses to use the software, and these are not normally transferable.
Rex
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Friday,
Ah! It is part of the DATE-COMPILED. paragraph! . Let me test ... . It does
compile! Why? Let's look at the LRM.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/igy3lr50/3.1.6
quote
The comment-entry in any of the optional paragraphs can be any combination of
characters from the
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
What does the vendor recommend?
snip
Does IBM recommend that customers age PTFs before APPLYing? For
how long? What would be the effect if no customer applied any PTF
until (e.g.) 60 days after availability in order that bugs would be
discovered by other customers?
ISO/IEC 1989:2002(E), the COBOL 2002 standard (yes, I did pay for it), says
the following:
F.1 Substantive changes potentially affecting existing programs
1) Obsolete elements. The following features that were classified as obsolete
in the previous COBOL standard,
have been removed from
In this and other matters there is a historic distinction between
leading- and trailing-edge mainframe shops.
Leading-edge mainframe shops are now much less common than they once
were, probably because many mainframe shops have been marked for
replacement.
What can be said is that the reflexive,
Pehaps he could send it to the Computer History Museum, on the
condition that it not be used until the copyrights expire?
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
There is a copyright doctrine called first sale that basically says that
when you buy a legal copy of
Pehaps he could send it to the Computer History Museum, on the
condition that it not be used until the copyrights expire?
As one of Al Kossow's little minions, I say yes, please.
CHM works with IBM and the other computer companies, and they do get
commercial software out into the public,
Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't a licensed and copyrighted program
a
licensed and copyrighted program -- either in part or as a whole? If I
print that licensed program on paper, does it stop being a licensed
program?
It seems that that would be covered by a non-disclosure agreement.
John Gilmore wrote:
snip
Auditors are, legitimately, preoccupied with computer security, and
some PTFs address security issues. In the current climate a formal
procedure for recording a decision not to apply a PTF (and noting a
supporting reason code for this decision) should be in place.
On 3 Aug 2012 13:18:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In 4408005834035058.wa.gdornerwpsic@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/02/2012
at 02:11 PM, zOSdude gdor...@wpsic.com said:
Our auditors (Feds) say we need to apply all new PTF's within 30 days
of availability.
Ask them for
On 3 Aug 2012 10:09:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Ah! It is part of the DATE-COMPILED. paragraph! . Let me test ... . It does
compile! Why? Let's look at the LRM.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/igy3lr50/3.1.6
quote
The comment-entry in any of the
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:42:54 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Are you referring to the OS rules or to the OS simulation in CMS? NOTE
has always been valid in OS after a checked write.
I stand corrected. READ or WRITE. But IIRC, the OP said he did NOTE
before either I/O operation.
-- gil
In
cae1xxdhabxscw9vqmeojswt_kabw4mstc78po3bhqjdrabt...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/03/2012
at 01:52 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Auditors are, legitimately, preoccupied with computer security,
and some PTFs address security issues.
Some PTF's introduce security vulnerabilities.
In
b59b09b8b0099f44b859d46ffb38b10ec32...@crplivexc66.citnet.cit.com,
on 08/03/2012
at 02:21 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com said:
See if you can get the auditors to agree that you will apply all
applicable (to your environment) PTFs flagged as a Red Alert
within 30-60 days of
In 1344012753.76726.yahoomail...@web122103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
08/03/2012
at 09:52 AM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com said:
The program was written in pre-COBOL II (COBOL 85) syntax.
At that time the REMARKS paragraph valid (I'm guessing as an IBM
extension),
No.
and
Is CHM willing to scan donations for bittsavers? I've got hundreds of
manuals that I'm willing to donate if someone will, pick them up, scan
them and do the OCR.
CHM and bitsavers are sort of joined at the hip. Al Kossow's hip, specifically.
Yes, we would love to have the scans - it is just a
I'm assuming you saw my reply as to why it is valid.
But I would agree that a simple RTFM is not valid here. Yes, it is
documented. But it is not at all obvious, even though once you know the actual
reason you can retroactively go back to the documentation and say ah hah!.
Try displaying the panel via the ISPF dialogs (usually option 7 from the
ISPF primary panel, then option 2): type in the panel name and hit
Enter. If the now empty panel is displayed immediately, it's whatever
is being loaded into the DYNAREA that is causing the delay (e.g. a
table). Otherwise
Shmuel's point is well taken.
Justice Holmes said that rules are for clerks.
Here as elsewhere there is no substitute for experience and judgment.
The gratuitously split infinitive is problematic, but to only bypass
an error hold if there is a sound reason to do so for a specific PTF
is very
Exactly. Thank you.
Charles
Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm assuming you saw my reply as to why it is valid.
But I would agree that a simple RTFM is not valid here. Yes, it is
documented. But it is not at all obvious, even though once you know the
actual reason you
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