Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Scott Ford
I worked at at several State or City offices where passwords were in pencil underneath the keyboard... Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 23, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Linda wrote: > That is

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gerhard Postpischil wrote: >The next day I saw a note in his desk drawer with a BBB222 on it. You're snooping in others drawers? Naughty boy! ;-D >As you might think, he didn't last too long at the job. Absolutely very sad. I hope he got a good peaceful retirement. Groete / Greetings Elardus

SV: Passing of Chris Mason reported

2013-01-23 Thread Thomas Berg
Sometimes the best response is *silence*. Which, seen as a rule, I of course is violating now. But the damage is already done. Regards Thomas Berg Thomas Berg Specialist z/OS/IT Delivery SWEDBANK AB (Publ) > -Urspru

SV: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-23 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > För Paul Gilmartin > Skickat: den 22 januari 2013 15:13 > Till: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Ämne: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting) > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:57:43 -0600, Elardu

Re: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-23 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Berg Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SV: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting) > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IB

ListServ at uga.edu dead? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc)

2013-01-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Are those ListServs at uga.edu dead, moribund or kaput? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc) I got that famous 500 error code page from that Red Hat Server at listserv.uga.edu. Yuck! Or is it just me? Or my browser (IE9, Firefox18)? Or should I be patient until 'they' fix it later this year...? ;-) BT

Re: ListServ at uga.edu dead? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc)

2013-01-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-01-23 12:56, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Are those ListServs at uga.edu dead, moribund or kaput? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc) I got that famous 500 error code page from that Red Hat Server at listserv.uga.edu. Yuck! Or is it just me? Or my browser (IE9, Firefox18)? Or should I be pati

Re: ListServ at uga.edu dead? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc)

2013-01-23 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
I get the same thing. MA On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:56:11 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Are those ListServs at uga.edu dead, moribund or kaput? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, >etc) > >I got that famous 500 error code page from that Red Hat Server at >listserv.uga.edu. Yuck! > >Or is it just me? Or

Re: ListServ at uga.edu dead? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc)

2013-01-23 Thread zMan
But I get daily digests from those lists. I think the URL likely changed. Google or go to L-SOFT and look? On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: > I get the same thing. > > MA > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:56:11 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht < > elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

Re: ListServ at uga.edu dead? (RACF-L, Assembler-L, etc)

2013-01-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Thanks to all who replied. Much appreciated. I meant that web interfaces, not the e-mail delivery. Ping, Google, L-SOFT, etc. are showing nothing unexpected. There are no announcement pages at University of Georgia or at ListServ Department there or I missed it somehow. I gave up on receiving

Re: SV: Passing of Chris Mason reported

2013-01-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
There is great wisdom knowing what to say, and greater wisdom knowing when to say it. Mark Jacobs On 01/23/13 04:06, Thomas Berg wrote: Sometimes the best response is *silence*. Which, seen as a rule, I of course is violating now. But the damage is already done. Regards Thomas Berg __

Re: 0D7 with ATSET

2013-01-23 Thread esst...@juno.com
Peter Relson wrote > >Perhaps with the exception of the (somewhat atypical but allowed) PC-SS >that is defined not to set new-SASN to old-PASN (ETDEF with SASN=NEW). >Of course if using that approach you cannot use ALET=1 to access >caller-provided data that was in the caller's primary address sp

Re: LOAD from ... SERVER option?

2013-01-23 Thread Dana Mitchell
James, You say your virtual tape is available at that site. Could you create standalone IPLable tapes of ICKDSF and FDR and IPL from the tapes when needed? Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

IBM financial results, 4Q12

2013-01-23 Thread John Gilmore
This morning's New York Times reports very satisfactory 4th quarter 2012 financial results for IBM: The company’s hardware revenue slipped 1 percent, to $5.8 billion. The division’s sales were hurt by the loss of the cash register business. But mainframe sales surged 56 percent thanks to a new li

Re: SV: Passing of Chris Mason reported

2013-01-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Jacobs wrote: >There is great wisdom knowing what to say, and greater wisdom knowing when to >say it. Thomas Berg wrote: >Sometimes the best response is *silence*. Which, seen as a rule, I of course >is violating now. But the damage is already done. In such threads I do only two things: R

Re: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-23 Thread Ken Hume
MANY years ago, before we migrated to RACF on MVS, we used a security package on VSE that was a little "weak". We could actually see the users password. One morning a programmer, Mike Austin, walked into my office and stated that he had forgotten his password while on a one day vacation. I had hi

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Scott Ford
It's time for biometrics passwords ...for PCs and mainframes ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 23, 2013, at 3:11 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > >>

Re: IBM reveals a monster 36-core mainframe module

2013-01-23 Thread Jon Butler
Yes, they have been available for six months in the zE12...120 usable PUs...of which, in maximum configuration, 16 are configured as SAPs, 2 are spares, 1 is a reserve, and 101 are customer configurable as CPs, IFLs, zIIPs, zAAPs, ICFs or additional SAPs. ---

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
These were already cracked decades ago, by the Mission Impossible team. The faked faces, fingerprints etc. etc. Should be no problem these days for creative hobbyists. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Se

Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread sunil mirchandani
Hello Team, Can any one help to find out who has deleted particular files/directories under OMVS. Do we have any command to check or any other way( Any utility/job which takes SMF data as a input and generate some report to find the user who has deleted). Any help much appreciated. Thanks & Reg

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-01-23 15:49, Scott Ford pisze: It's time for biometrics passwords ...for PCs and mainframes ... Or other means of security behind passwords. It can be also a token. In order tolog on you have to provide password and the code displayed by the token. The token can have a keyboard for

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread John McKown
I've never looked, but if you have RACF auditing set up, then you _might_ find a RACF audit record in SMF. IRRADU00 output Ref: for "rmdir" http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ichza3c0/6.5.48 for "rm" (aka "unlink") http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOK

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread sunil mirchandani
Hello John, We are using ACF2 in our shop. Thanks On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:24 PM, John McKown wrote: > I've never looked, but if you have RACF auditing set up, then you > _might_ find a RACF audit record in SMF. > > IRRADU00 output Ref: > > for "rmdir" > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread Jake anderson
Hi, Just found the below note : "IBM suggests three alternate methods: the Service Level Reporter (SLR), the SMF unload utility (IRRADU00), or DF/SORT or a comparable reporting utility reading the unformatted SMF records. Each of these has advantages depending on available products at your instal

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Steve Thompson
From: Elardus Engelbrecht Date: 01/23/2013 02:11 AM Gerhard Postpischil wrote: >The next day I saw a note in his desk drawer with a BBB222 on it. You're snooping in others drawers? Naughty boy! ;-D >As you might think, he didn't last too long at the job. Well, I just proved that my ne

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Ed Gould
Linda: Back in the 80's (early if I remember correctly. I was at a Christmas party in an office and I noticed a VM logo on on of the screens. I tried logging on as IBMCE to VM and used the vanilla password that comes with VM IPO. It worked so everyone don't go patting themselves on the bac

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Joe Testa
Biometrics "not reliable": at Heathrow Airport they have iris scanners. Once when you enter the security area, a second time when you are getting ready to go into the gate area. I didn't match between the first time and the second time ... how could that be? Well, I wear progressive-lens gla

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Scott Ford
Joe, I was there in the 90s, when the IRA were active, I got stopped between gates also. Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Joe Testa wrote: > Biometrics "not

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Linda
Hi Ed, In those days, our IBM folks could get a bit testy if their (the default IBM ids) didn't work - with the default passwords. So, those ids were limited as to where they could be logged on. In those days, no remote access. Inside, id verified, escorted, watched, etc. Linda Sent from my

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread zMan
Which part of a Christmas party qualifies there? :-D On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Linda wrote: > Hi Ed, > > In those days, our IBM folks could get a bit testy if their (the default > IBM ids) didn't work - with the default passwords. So, those ids were > limited as to where they could be log

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 1/23/2013 3:11 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: You're snooping in others drawers? Naughty boy! ;-D Sorry to dash your tittilation, but four of us shared a small room where everyone could see what others were doing. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont

Re: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-23 Thread Phil Smith
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Ken Hume mailto:kph...@live.com>> wrote: >MANY years ago, before we migrated to RACF on MVS, we used a security package >on VSE that was a little "weak". We could actually see the users password. >One morning a programmer, Mike Austin, walked into my office and st

Re: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-23 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Phil Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Ken Hume > mailto:kph...@live.com>> wrote: >>MANY years ago, before we migrated to RACF on MVS, we used a security package >>on VSE that was a little "weak". We could actually see the users password. >>One morn

Re: Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-23 Thread zMan
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:31 PM, John McKown wrote: > I can top that. On the Windows side a person called in because they > forgot their Windows login id (not password). At that time it was > first initial plus last name. How could they have forgotten who they > were, but remember where they worke

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes: > BTW: I prefer tokens over biometrics for the following reasons: > 1. Biometrics is not reliable. Depending on the method used it could > cause "false failures", for example a fingerprint after some injury > cannot be recognized. Same about face recogn

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread Skip Robinson
I want to reiterate an endorsement of AUTOIPL. It costs nothing but some configuration time. In DIAGxx you put AUTOIPL SADMP(,SMSYSC) MVS(LAST) /* IPL SAD FROM SAD IPL vv */ When we first went to z/OS R13, we stumbled on an obscure memory leak problem that took IBM a while to figur

Re: IBM reveals a monster 36-core mainframe module

2013-01-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
butl...@us.ibm.com (Jon Butler) writes: > Yes, they have been available for six months in the zE12...120 usable > PUs...of which, in maximum configuration, 16 are configured as SAPs, 2 > are spares, 1 is a reserve, and 101 are customer configurable as CPs, > IFLs, zIIPs, zAAPs, ICFs or additional S

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread Scott Ford
I bet you can do it with ICETOOL also, by the way there are articles at cbttapes.org , Xephon pubs on this also, Google is you friend Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread Scott Ford
Sunil, ACF2 cuts SMF records Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:58 AM, sunil mirchandani wrote: > Hello John, > > We are using ACF2 in our shop. > > Thanks > > On

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread Scott Ford
Like this one, this was about 5 mins work .. http://www.cbttape.org/xephon/xephonr/rac0108.pdf Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jake anderson wrote: > Hi, >

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Ed Gould
Linda: I had just done an vmIPO install and then looked at the resources defined to IBMCE (at the location - were the same as what comes with the IPO). I found a manager and suggested that they change the default passwords for all the special ID's. We crossed paths months later at anothe

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-23 Thread Ed Gould
Zman: I would not rather tell the name of the vendor but Chicago was large enough to have an entire floor just for the division. Ed On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:11 PM, zMan wrote: Which part of a Christmas party qualifies there? :-D On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Linda wrote: Hi Ed, In

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:33:51 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: >I want to reiterate an endorsement of AUTOIPL. It costs nothing but some >configuration time. In DIAGxx you put > > AUTOIPL SADMP(,SMSYSC) MVS(LAST) /* IPL SAD FROM SAD IPL vv */ > >When we first went to z/OS R13, we stumbled o

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread Skip Robinson
I mentioned the AUTOIPL statement because it's easy to overlook. But yes, guaranteed that if there are multiple SAD output volumes, they need to be need to rebuilt using AMDSADDD because the volumes are chained together by unit address, which AMDSADDD determines and writes out. Guess how I know

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread Jim Mulder
> There's one caveat to add. Not long ago we went through a 'DASD refresh' > that moved every volume to a different address. At IPL time, z/OS checks > the specified SADMP address for validity. If he determines that it's > invalid--in our case the address was no longer genned--then the entire

Re: Reg: OMVS deleted files/directories.

2013-01-23 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 24/01/2013 2:38, sunil mirchandani wrote: Hello Team, Can any one help to find out who has deleted particular files/directories under OMVS. Do we have any command to check or any other way( Any utility/job which takes SMF data as a input and generate some report to find the user who has dele

Re: IBM financial results, 4Q12

2013-01-23 Thread Charles Mills
The passing of an era -- the sale of the cash register business. That is where (part of) it all began. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> I mentioned the AUTOIPL statement because it's easy to overlook. But yes, > guaranteed that if there are multiple SAD output volumes, they need to be > need to rebuilt using AMDSADDD because the volumes are chained together by > unit address, which AMDSADDD determines and writes out. Guess how

Coupling facility - Non Volatile performance

2013-01-23 Thread Munif Sadek
Dear Listers, Due to IBM Health checker report we have to change mode of our Coupling facility to non Volatile.. CF is running in a partition on CPC, shared by 4 z/OS LPARs making it a sysplex. We are enabled for CICSPlex , DB2 Data sharing, RACF Database Sharing, SMSPlex, Catalog ECS etc e

Re: Coupling facility - Non Volatile performance

2013-01-23 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:04:40 -0600, Munif Sadek wrote: > >Due to IBM Health checker report we have to change mode of our Coupling >facility to non Volatile.. CF is running in a partition on CPC, shared by 4 >z/OS LPARs making it a sysplex. We are enabled for CICSPlex , DB2 Data >sharing, RA

Re: Coupling facility - Non Volatile performance

2013-01-23 Thread Munif Sadek
Thanks Roger We have very good UPS.. and have decided to make CF mode Non volatile.. Just read somewhere that non volatile CF has better performance than Volatile ..but there is no ROTs or any indicative relative perfomance figure or how to measure / monitor it.. Best Regards Munif.

Re: Coupling facility - Non Volatile performance

2013-01-23 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> >Due to IBM Health checker report we have to change mode of our Coupling > >facility to non Volatile.. CF is running in a partition on CPC, shared by 4 > >z/OS LPARs making it a sysplex. We are enabled for CICSPlex , DB2 Data > >sharing, RACF Database Sharing, SMSPlex, Catalog ECS etc etc.

ListServ problem at uga.edu - resolved

2013-01-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Yesterday, very late in the day, all problems were resolved and all lists hosted there are back and up to date. During that time e-mail deliveries were still working. No, I still don't know what the problem was. Who cares? ;-D Thanks to all who replied online and off-list. Now back to our sche

Mktg: New Release of SyzMPF/z available

2013-01-23 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi all, This is more of a marketing announcement (thus the subject line), but I wanted to let everyone on the list know, especially those customers who did not see the general announcement, that Version 3 of SyzMPF/z (automated console message processing), has come out of beta testing and is no

Re: Coupling facility - Non Volatile performance

2013-01-23 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Barbara, I would have expected you to mention option 3. as first option. Or do I really sense a careful positivism towards HCs from you in the last year ;-)? I would add another option: set up you CFs and structures in such a way, that you can stand CF failures. Many applications can survive a CF