Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss...

2013-02-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>had a similar epiphany about 8 lustra ago Wow! You're almost as pretentious a Gilmore! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss...

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:10:54 -0500, John Gilmore wrote: > >Things were different in other, non-IBM cultures. > >I remember, for example, being struck many, many years ago by the fact >that the MULTICS source programs I saw at MIT, mostly PL/I and a very >little assembler, were being written all but

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>If I remember correctly, there is also an issue of the number of paths >available; fewer, larger volumes = fewer paths = more I/O contention. (This >may be an old issue that is no longer relevant.) Pretty well with PAV & HIPERPAV. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Leslie Turriff
On Friday 22 February 2013 15:08:34 Skip Robinson wrote: > Someone once observed that 'rarely used' is not the same the thing as > 'lightly used'. Whenever a file is accessed for read or write, IOS goes > after it with a heavy boot. Then there's the problem of backups: if a file > is worth keeping

Re: DSECT for volume list returned by CAMLST, also device types

2013-02-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
The program LISTICAT on the CBT tape file 527 has a listing of the device type codes as shown in the catalog and the device type for printing. Hope that is what you are interested in. On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:43:15 -0600, Richard Peurifoy wrote: >On 2/22/2013 3:01 PM, Breton Imhauser wrote: >>

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Don Williams
I think DASD vendors need to create a simple, standard method to mirror a volume's configuration and data, rather than mirroring just the volume's data. Don > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Skip Robinson > Sent: Fr

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Mike Schwab
We are looking at converting about 12TB of 21TB of disk from Mod 9 to 27 (32,760). We are doing those storage groups that have 250GB of data in them so they use 10 M27s and adding another M27 adds 10% or less. Two storage groups have 1,600GB so adding 9 or 29.4 GB are very minor. We have some st

Re: Problem with SYSEVENT QVS solved

2013-02-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <51250aa1.4020...@jedsp.net>, on 02/20/2013 at 06:40 PM, jan de decker said: >For my application I need a kind of CVT and CVTX called LACVT and >LACVTX. >In one of the macro's I coded a labeled USING with CVT as the label >for my own LACVT. Then the ASMA044E message is incorrect and I urg

Re: DSECT for volume list returned by CAMLST, also device types

2013-02-22 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 2/22/2013 3:01 PM, Breton Imhauser wrote: Hey y’all! I’m looking for an IBM(/or ?) provided dsect for the volume list returned by LOCATE. If there isn’t one, that’s okay, as they layout is self-evident. I also am wondering if there is a macro/copy member with EQUates for the device

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread John Gilmore
Donald J. wrote: | It also does not appear to support the chroot | environment option This is the wrong quibble. Vanilla SFTP supports chroot. GIYF. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / a

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Skip Robinson
Someone once observed that 'rarely used' is not the same the thing as 'lightly used'. Whenever a file is accessed for read or write, IOS goes after it with a heavy boot. Then there's the problem of backups: if a file is worth keeping around, you probably want to back it up periodically, maybe e

Re: SV: SV: SV: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 02/20/2013 at 09:15 AM, Thomas Berg said: >Do you in this regard prefer, e g, that: >01 NAME1 PIC X. >88 ONE VALUE '1'. >88 ZERO VALUE '0'. >- instead be: >01 NAME1 PIC X. >WHEN VALUE '1' SETTRUE ONE. >WHEN VALUE '0' SETTRUE ZERO. >?

DSECT for volume list returned by CAMLST, also device types

2013-02-22 Thread Breton Imhauser
Hey y’all! I’m looking for an IBM(/or ?) provided dsect for the volume list returned by LOCATE. If there isn’t one, that’s okay, as they layout is self-evident. I also am wondering if there is a macro/copy member with EQUates for the device types returned. I know about the printed refere

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi, In our environment, we have a mix of emulated 3390-9 and 3390-54. When we have a need for small volumes (page, etc), we use 3390-9s and backfill them with rarely referenced files - documentation, etc. I tend to keep the system on 3390-9s (except SMPPTS!), as there was (once) a bit o

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Skip Robinson
In the interest of frugality, I asked my storage guys some time ago to allocate some tiny volumes for JES checkpoint and couple data sets. After a while, they complained that it was more trouble than it was worth because we mirror most volumes to the DR site. For every tiny source volume, they

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Don Williams
I hope my doctors read journals and participate other formal training during their normal work hours as a part of providing better service to me. Working too many hours will eventually lead to problems, but so will lack of continuing education. Don > -Original Message- > From: IBM Main

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Donald J.
It also does not appear to support the chroot environment option. -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Ed Gould wrote: > John: > > That may be fine for your shop but others need support in a > production environment. > > Ed > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:18 AM,

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Ed Gould
John: That may be fine for your shop but others need support in a production environment. Ed On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:18 AM, John McKown wrote: There is a add on to z/OS SFTP from Dovetailed Technologies which allows sftp to access "normal" z/OS legacy data sets and the JES SPOOL, just lik

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-22 Thread John Gilmore
Bill, Very nice indeed! I made my PL/I nickname field character(6) varying after running through a similar but not quite identical exercise. I thought I might get a question about that; but I did not, probably because no one looked at the program. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Space wasted for "small volumes" e.g. XCF couple datasets. Just a talking point. With Hyper-PAV, etc. most of the other points are just "hot air". The convenience of not having to support multiple "geometries". A client with DS8000 DASD configured as a mix of 3390 Mod9 and Mod27s is consider

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread John Gilmore
I recently reviewed a number of physicians' diaries and the like (in connection with a review of an electronic patient-records system). There are variations in the amount of time they allocate to professional things not specifically related to the care of a patient. Moreover, this distinction is

Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Tom Sims
A client with DS8000 DASD configured as a mix of 3390 Mod9 and Mod27s is considering a project to convert everything to Mod-27. Does anyone out there have some thoughts on the advantages or disadvantages of this? I'm not looking to start a religious discussion or other "dinotribe," so feel fre

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/22/2013 10:14 AM, John Gilmore wrote: I have experimented with this number---Note that it includes professional development, e.g., journal reading, web browsing, meeting attendance and the like, things that are not immediately relevant to the task at hand ---and I do not think 5% is enough.

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-22 Thread Bill Fairchild
The maximum realizable 3390 mod number with an EAV is 241,182. You had best allow for six digits. This number is the result of dividing 16 to the 7th power (the maximum possible number of cylinders) by 1,113 (the number of cylinders in a 3390-1). The DCE, which is findable from one of the may

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:14:52 -0500, John Gilmore wrote: >I have experimented with this number---Note that it includes >professional development, e.g., journal reading, web browsing, meeting >attendance and the like, things that are not immediately relevant to >the task at hand ---and I do not thi

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread John Gilmore
I have experimented with this number---Note that it includes professional development, e.g., journal reading, web browsing, meeting attendance and the like, things that are not immediately relevant to the task at hand ---and I do not think 5% is enough. It is low by the standards of other professi

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/22/2013 8:10 AM, John Gilmore wrote: More crackpot realism! A shop that does not allocate 20% (sic) of its programmers' time to training and professional development is a mismanaged and uneconomically organized one. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA Hmmm. That's 10 weeks in a year.

Re: IGD17271I under ISPF but only sometimes

2013-02-22 Thread Art Gutowski
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:59:36 -0600, Jim Mooney wrote: >Thanks very much Art. It is easy enough to test the WTPMSG profile setting, so >I did. It appears to have no influence on this. I run my session with WTPMSG. >If I set my profile to NOWTPMSG, I still get the IGD msg for FileAid (while I >

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 02/22/13 10:10, John Gilmore wrote: More crackpot realism! A shop that does not allocate 20% (sic) of its programmers' time to training and professional development is a mismanaged and uneconomically organized one. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA Yes on both statements. -- Mark Ja

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread John Gilmore
More crackpot realism! A shop that does not allocate 20% (sic) of its programmers' time to training and professional development is a mismanaged and uneconomically organized one. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/22/2013 7:34 AM, Donald J. wrote: I didn't say there was a problem. Our applicatons mgmt does not want to spend the time to train programmers on how to do it. Ah. Even by using the QSAM interface? That just requires a JCL change; no COBOL change. And it's probably not time but money they

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Donald J.
I didn't say there was a problem. Our applicatons mgmt does not want to spend the time to train programmers on how to do it. I will check out the Dovetailed Tech mod recommended by John M. in the other post. Thanks, John, for the info. -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, a

Re: ISPF Scrollable area

2013-02-22 Thread esst...@juno.com
Take a look at ISPF Dialogue Manager publication. -- Original Message -- From: Skip Robinson To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF Scrollable area Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:41:32 -0800 What you're observing is the default behavior of ISPF dialogs from the dawn of time.

BCPii question HWIQUERY on IMAGE

2013-02-22 Thread Shameem .K .Shoukath
hi all,   I am able to run the sample program HWIXMCS1 and getting output.    However when i tried to retrieve more information like HWI_DEFCAP,  HWI_PARTITIONID etc from the HWIQUERY on IMAGE, i am not getting any values for the new variables at all.    I am not able to find any other samples a

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 02/19/2013 at 02:33 PM, Mike Schwab said: >You are starting way too late. Living beings are the way the >protiens in the primordial soup have created to replicate >themselves. Are you sure that proteins preceded RNA? The last I heard, the jury was still out. -- Shmuel (Seymou

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread John McKown
There is a add on to z/OS SFTP from Dovetailed Technologies which allows sftp to access "normal" z/OS legacy data sets and the JES SPOOL, just like the IBM FTP server does. ref: http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html This costs _nothing_ to download and install. You don't even need to register it

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/22/2013 6:10 AM, Donald J. wrote: Instead of asking customers to spend a lot of time, money and grief on certificates, isn't it about time we stop fighting the FTPS vs SFTP battle? SFTP clearly prevails, Speaking of grief, ask a Cobol programmer to write to an OMVS Unix file. Why? there'

Re: Secure Service Delivery

2013-02-22 Thread Donald J.
> Instead of asking customers to spend a lot of time, money and grief on > certificates, isn't it about time we stop fighting the FTPS vs SFTP > battle? SFTP clearly prevails, Speaking of grief, ask a Cobol programmer to write to an OMVS Unix file. They need to add support for z/OS files before S

Re: [DB2-L] - DB2 V10 upgrade - SMS allocation failure

2013-02-22 Thread Jim McAlpine
thanks to everyone for their input on this. Eventually completed DSNTIJEN after many out of space conditions but all your hints were very helpful. Jim McAlpine On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > You might also want to consider the DSNTYPE=LARGE if you are going to put >

Re: Problem with SYSEVENT QVS

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Relson
The HLASM team would "appreciate" a PMR being opened for the "bad message". It's often helpful to have "formal" customer identification of areas that need improvement. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN su

Re: Debug Tool with Subprograms

2013-02-22 Thread Donald Likens
In case anyone has a better idea I am documenting my solution... I see no way to set a break point before starting the program, so what I am doing is as follows: LOAD INITPGM; LDD INITPGM; AT ENTRY INITPGM BEGIN; set br

Re: want to purge all my jobs ended with a RC=0 automatically

2013-02-22 Thread Brian Westerman
Normally managing the spool and deleting jobs with maxCC zero right off the bat is a little extreme, but I suppose there is no reason that you couldn't have the spool management product age it off quicker (or even immediately) if the maxCC was zero. Our SyzSpool/z (spool management automatio

Re: want to purge all my jobs ended with a RC=0 automatically

2013-02-22 Thread CUNY Yann
Of course yes ... But ... no. Our Z/OS lpar is used to submit scripts on distributed servers (windows / unix (all existing !) / Iseries / SAP. The return code of one job is the code returned by the distributed script on the target server. So sometimes (not always, of course), a 123 code could b