Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 4/8/2013 9:47 PM, David Cole wrote: WRT breakpoints, yes, 0C1s will occur when an address space, not involved in the debugging session, attempts to execute a common storage breakpoint. However, there are many simple techniques an XDC user can engage to make this possibility either not occur or

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Chuck Arney
I was never good at keeping secrets but I don't understand the mystery. It does not matter if it is a simple batch program or an environmentally complex program. When our code runs it is covered by our recovery routines but those exits are removed before the user code runs so that the user recove

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Micheal Butz
Sorry for the typo I meant that the debugger have recovery environment If the user code has errors Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: > I think Dave is right about one thing > That a debugger have a debugging > Environment if the traceable code > Is faulty

Re: 'Hacking The Mainframe': What Hollywood Gets Wrong About Its Favorite Tech ...

2013-04-08 Thread Phil Smith
Ted MacNEIL wrote: >In the late 1970's, the Computer 'Pit'. at the University of Waterloo, was >'borrowed' for a few scenes in a movie called Utilities starring Robert Hayes >(it came out in 1981). >The director complained that there weren't enough flashing lights (iirc, it >was a 158). >So, a b

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Micheal Butz
I think Dave is right about one thing That a debugger have a debugging Environment if the traceable code Is faulty Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 4/8/2013 6:47 PM, David Cole wrote: >> WRT breakpoints, yes, 0C1s will occur when an address space, not invo

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/8/2013 6:47 PM, David Cole wrote: WRT breakpoints, yes, 0C1s will occur when an address space, not involved in the debugging session, attempts to execute a common storage breakpoint. However, there are many simple techniques an XDC user can engage to make this possibility either not occur

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread David Cole
These days, the notion that using z/XDC requires modifying user code is no longer true. Yes, for mature and environmentally complex programs (i.e. programs consisting of many parts running in a variety of states and recovery environments), there are advantages with integrating an interface for z/XD

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread David Cole
>>>Hooks in common-storage modules causing 0C1s for later callers (from another poster) WRT hooks, this statement is actually false. It is not even partly true. This because whenever a dynamic hook is reached by execution, the very first thing it does is remove itself and restore the original code

Re: CFRM policy size

2013-04-08 Thread R Hey
Thanks Peter. I've heard: a- formula uses the default 32 systems/connectors. b- if I only have 2 systems, then the size from formula can be reduced So, if b is correct, I'd like to know where the #systems fit in the formula. As for CFSIZER, the doco says: > 3. With the structures in the remai

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2013-04-08 17:13, Gibney, Dave wrote: > # fuser -cu /tmp > > /SYSTEM/tmp: 67108942c(OEDFLTU) 130c(OEDFLTU) 132c(OEDFLTU) 133c(OEDFLTU) > 134c(OEDFLTU) 135c(OEDFLTU) 136c(OEDFLTU)

Re: CFRM policy size

2013-04-08 Thread Peter Bishop
Hi Reza, it seems you're asking about ISGLOCK. Although the formula in the GRS Planning manual claims this structure is independent of connector count, and only depends on the peak resource count, playing around with various different connector counts in CFSIZER seems to indicate otherwise, so

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Ward, Mike S
Just wanted to let everyone know what happened. We use websphere broker V8. The execution groups on the broker use the /tmp directory to allocate work files. The /tmp TFS system that was used was from the V1.13 serverpack which was only 100meg. We finally stopped all the brokers which released t

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
# fuser -cu /tmp /SYSTEM/tmp: 67108942c(OEDFLTU) 130c(OEDFLTU) 132c(OEDFLTU) 133c(OEDFLTU) 134c(OEDFLTU) 135c(OEDFLTU) 136c(OEDFLTU) 137c(OEDFLTU) 13 8c(OEDFLTU) 139c(OEDFLTU) 140c(

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <139601ce33da$91189ec0$b349dc40$@mcn.org>, on 04/07/2013 at 02:55 PM, Charles Mills said: >BASIC and FORTRAN both used sequence numbers as "labels" but they >were on the left, not the right, correct? Those weren't sequence numbers, and sequence numbers are only on the right for FB. >Speak

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:50:28 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >My point was to possibly make it bigger. I guess I don't see 1866M as small :) >If you wish to increase it, without an IPL, I expect that to be a problem :) > >FUSER fuser -- List process IDs of processes with open files might be helpful, >b

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 04/07/2013 at 02:58 PM, John Gilmore said: >Alexander Pope's abjuration, "Be not the first by whom the new are >tried, nor yet the last to lay the old aside", nicely encapsulates >their attitudes. My attitude is different; as a radical middle of the roader, I'm an early adopter when I

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Chuck Arney
I'll share a few thoughts I have on a couple of these issues. One of our design goals for TDF was to require no user code changes. We feel that you should never have to add code to your program, let alone design facilities into your code to support the job of the debugger, in order for you to deb

Re: CFRM policy size

2013-04-08 Thread R Hey
Thanks Lizette. Yes, seen it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
My point was to possibly make it bigger. I guess I don't see 1866M as small :) If you wish to increase it, without an IPL, I expect that to be a problem :) FUSER fuser -- List process IDs of processes with open files might be helpful, but I would expect some important address spaces to show up as

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Ward, Mike S
Yes, that's the way they are defined in bpx parms. The problem is I can't unmount it because it says something is using it, but does not say what is using it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Monday,

Re: TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
MOUNT FILESYSTEM('/tmp') MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') TYPE(TFS) MODE(RDWR) PARM('-s 1866') MKDIR('ldap') MOUNT FILESYSTEM('/dev')

in search of position (approved by list owner)

2013-04-08 Thread DASDBILL2
This post was approved by the list owner. I am looking for a new full-time position in software development for large IBM mainframe z/OS systems. I am fluent in Assembler, z/OS internals, DASD I/O, use of ISPF, and GTF, inter alia. For more information please contact me privately at dasdbi..

Check out IBM Changing the GDDM default APPCPG for a single instance of GDDM

2013-04-08 Thread Ed Finnell
_IBM Changing the GDDM default APPCPG for a single instance of GDDM - United States_ (http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21376292) I'd try this locally and then see why it's 351 globally. -- For IBM-MAIN subs

TFS tmp directory problems

2013-04-08 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I have a small TFS problem. We are a z/OS V1.13 system. We have a tmp omvs directory that came with the system. When we try to allocate a small file on the tmp directory we get an out of space error. An ls -l does not show anything allocated in the directory at all. A df command shows

Re: The GDDM CCSID 351 does not match the CCSID of 1047 at database DB9G

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Peplinski
I don't know CMF but a Google search on QMF GDDM CCSID looks promising. Paul -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

web: IBM News room - 2013-04-03 IBM Awards Highest Technical Honor to Eight New ...

2013-04-08 Thread Gabe Goldberg
ARMONK, N.Y. - 03 Apr 2013: IBM (NYSE: IBM) today marked the 50th anniversary of its Fellows program by elevating eight employees to IBM Fellow for their innovations in such strategic areas as cloud and mobile computing, big data and business analytics. The new Fellows will be visible in reinfo

VisualAge

2013-04-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Hello, and apologies in advance for the noise... Not sure where else to pose the question. Was wondering, might anyone here have an old copy of VisualAge PL/I 2.1 and/or VisualAge Cobol 3.07 that they'd be willing to part with for some reasonable compensation? Many thanks in advance!! -Ben

The GDDM CCSID 351 does not match the CCSID of 1047 at database DB9G

2013-04-08 Thread william janulin
To list;   Further to my earlier message on displaying DB2 data via QMF. In the subject area is the error message I am getting: The GDDM CCSID 351 does not match the CCSID of 1047 at database DB9G Some earlier posts kind of dance around the issue but so far I have not found any definitive inf

Re: QMF query question

2013-04-08 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, all in the code page. Might try spufi select and see if it's the same or different. Oh and check referential integrity-seen stranger things. In a message dated 4/8/2013 3:22:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes: Is QMF V9 expecting Unicode (ASCII), and V8 ex

Re: QMF query question

2013-04-08 Thread Mike Schwab
Is QMF V9 expecting Unicode (ASCII), and V8 expects EBCDIC? EBCDIC blanks are ASCII @ symbol. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM, william janulin wrote: > To list; > > I am looking at a DB2 table from two different versions of QMF on different > systems. On QMF v8 when I run a query on the table,

Re: QMF query question

2013-04-08 Thread John McKown
Typo, Liz. Try http://idug.org On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > You probably want to, if you have not done so, the DB2 newsgroup > > You can join at I dug.org > > Lizette > > > -Original Message- > >From: william janulin > >Sent: Apr 8, 2013 11:53 AM > >To: IBM-M

Re: QMF query question

2013-04-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
You probably want to, if you have not done so, the DB2 newsgroup You can join at I dug.org Lizette -Original Message- >From: william janulin >Sent: Apr 8, 2013 11:53 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: QMF query question > >To list; > >  I am looking at a DB2 table from two diff

QMF query question

2013-04-08 Thread william janulin
To list;   I am looking at a DB2 table from two different versions of QMF on different systems. On QMF v8 when I run a query on the table, I get a valid display of data. Looking at the same table from QMF v9 the only data elements in the table that have valid data in them are two date fields. A

Re: web: 'Hacking The Mainframe': What Hollywood Gets Wrong About Its Favorite Tech ...

2013-04-08 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 04/08/2013 09:22 AM, Gabe Goldberg wrote: The comedy blog Slackstory published "An Ode to Movie Mainframes" this week, chronicling Hollywood's age-old obsession with "hacking the mainframe." Movies most often use the phrase to mean that "the hacker can now do anything he or she wants with a

Re: C and Assembler question

2013-04-08 Thread Charles Mills
No. Re-read MY code, not the OP's. Here MODESET KEY=ZERO,MODE=SUP GO INTO SUPERVISOR MODE STORAGE OBTAIN,LENGTH=(R9),SP=231,LOC=ANY LRR3,R1 LRR5,R15 MODESET KEY=NZERO,MODE=PROB BACK TO MORTALITY STR3,somewhere to pass back *-

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Rob Scott
I have been using z/XDC to debug software in a variety of exotic environments over the last 10 years or so and I have to say that the software has saved man-months in debugging and development time. In response to the individual points : >> In the standard environment, TSO TEST was a lot easier

Re: JCL INCLUDE statement name field

2013-04-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Gilmore wrote: >Recall that he hates JCL in assessing his contentions. At least he said (with good reasons!) that 12 times since Jan 2011. ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: JCL INCLUDE statement name field

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:20:16 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> both: 3 //12345678.X IF TRUE THEN >> and: 3 //.X IF TRUE THEN >> >> ... which would appear to be legal according to the description fail with: >> >> STMT NO. MESSA

Re: JCL INCLUDE statement name field

2013-04-08 Thread John Gilmore
I suspect that Paul Gilmartin knew that these labels had to begin with an [extended]alphabetic; but since the language of the manual says only that they must be alphanumeric he was well within his rights as a controversialist in suggesting that an all-numerics, x'Fd', string should equally be usabl

Re: C and Assembler question

2013-04-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <135301ce33bf$5736eab0$05a4c010$@mcn.org>, on 04/07/2013 at 11:40 AM, Charles Mills said: >No. Re-read my code. No need; you save the STORAGE rc into a parameter, but that is not the value in R15 when your code encounters EDCEPIL. STR15,0(R11) RETURN CODE, OK IF ZERO

web: 'Hacking The Mainframe': What Hollywood Gets Wrong About Its Favorite Tech ...

2013-04-08 Thread Gabe Goldberg
The comedy blog Slackstory published "An Ode to Movie Mainframes" this week, chronicling Hollywood's age-old obsession with "hacking the mainframe." Movies most often use the phrase to mean that "the hacker can now do anything he or she wants with a given computer system." But in the real world

Re: JCL INCLUDE statement name field

2013-04-08 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > o The name may be preceded by up to 8 alphanumeric or national characters, > and then separated by a period. Coding the name in this way should not be > confused with specifying an override, as can be done when coding DD > statements. > >

Telnet vbscript error

2013-04-08 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Hi, We are trying to script into tso with a VBSCRIPT. The script looks like this: Option Explicit On Error Resume Next Dim WshShell set WshShell=CreateObject("WScript.Shell") WshShell.run "cmd.exe" WScript.Sleep 3000 WshShell.SendKeys "telnet" WshShell.Sendkeys("{Enter}") WScript.Sleep 1000 Wsh

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:12:39 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > >I'm afraid that some of the comments on this thread do not reflect real >world practical usage. The EXEC PGM= PARM= string is not typically (ever?) >used in this way. Maybe that's because of the long-standing >implementation, but that is rea

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:11:09 -0400, John Eells wrote: >> >> What a fabulous resource this list would be if used in that fashion: a >> hundred intelligent, experienced programmers willing to do volunteer >> software design for IBM. What a shame to let it go to waste. >> > > >Don Ault did precisely

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 05:49:58 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: > >In addition, I suspect/believe that update-by-replacement encourages more >changes than necessary: that is, for 30 years, when I've made a change using >XEDIT in UPDATE mode, I've ALWAYS looked at the resulting update before >committing it,

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760?

2013-04-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: > I did an internal Brown Bag a year or so ago, in which I outlined the > VM CNTRL/AUX/update theology, to a room full of bewildered-looking > distributed folks. I did preface it with "Obviously the following > isn't going to change how we do anything, but it m

Re: JCL INCLUDE statement name field

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:35:19 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>So apparently I can code: > >>//12345678.WOMBAT INCLUDE FRED No examples given! > >A multlevel name is certainly valid on a DD statement, but I'm not >sure aboute INCLUDE. > I haven't a JCLLIB handy. But the JCL RM make

Re: CFRM policy size

2013-04-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you checked out the CFSIZER Tool from IBM? http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/cfsizer Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf > Of R Hey > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:25 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@L

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread Peter Relson
>In many other cases, there are trailing blanks and the programer >considers them to be significant. That's why ISPF has a PRESERVE >option. The PARMDD rules appear to thwart the programmers' >and ISPF's intent here. I'm afraid that some of the comments on this thread do not reflect real world

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread John Eells
Charles Mills wrote: more consideration should have been given to usability If I were the product manager for z/OS, I probably would have thrown the tentative design out here on IBMMAIN for comment *before* it was "too late to make changes." What a fabulous resource this list would be if used

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-08 Thread Phil Smith
+1 for CMS UPDATE, 45+ years old and going strong. I've been irritated by the update-by-replacement theology since I first encountered it. The ability to easily look and see what lines were hit by an update without having to re-run diffs (which takes a long time, relatively speaking, especially

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <134e01ce33be$b50687f0$1f1397d0$@mcn.org>, on 04/07/2013 at 11:35 AM, Charles Mills said: >A completely different topic, but sequence numbers are obviously (I >think. Am I wrong?) entirely a vestigial organ left from the days of >punched cards. You're wrong; sequence numbers are still use

Re: JCL INCLUDE statement name field

2013-04-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1291108053097570.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/07/2013 at 01:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >It's dangerous to let me read reference manuals. In: >Title: z/OS V1R13.0 MVS JCL Reference >Document Number: SA22-7597-16 >I read: > 18.1.2 Name Field >... >The name

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:32:53 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >I will admit that I am old school - SVCdump, GTF traces, etc. So I can live >without it. I can identify somewhat with this. Dealing (only) with small customer sites, I have never had the pleasure of playing with anything more sophisticat

Re: Change dataclass for existing DB2 datasets for V10

2013-04-08 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
While exceeding 4 GB may be the usual reason for needing EA, it also provides some other functionality, such as partial release of space. But if you don't know why the other datasets are EA then it is hard to determine whether these need to be changed or not. > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Micheal Burn
Binyamin you are exactly right Debugging CSA with XDC If a program other then the one Setting the breakpoint hits the breakpoint you will get a s0c1 This product could be come the standard for vendors debugging Their products Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Binyamin Dissen wro

Re: New Software Tool for z/OS Developers Announced by Arney Computer Systems

2013-04-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I have not been at an installation that has used XDC for a while, so some of my comments may be old. In the standard environment, TSO TEST was a lot easier to use. I had problems using the XDC VTAM to trap simple XMEM (a PC out of the client address space). Seems like the application frequently h