Re: Check out CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN

2013-06-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 18:21:07 -0400, Harry Wahl wrote: >I wonder how that compares to all the data stored on DNA in all living things >on earth and the sum of all the natural, intrinsic data in all its forms of >the physical universe? > > From: http://physics.aps.org/story/v9/st27 ... 10^12

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Mike Schwab
When somebody says the mainframe is dying, I like to say 95% of the Fortune 500 run on a IBM mainframe. And their applications absolutely, positively, cannot run on open systems, because they require a much higher transaction rate than what open systems can run. Some of the smaller mainframe shop

Re: Getting DD DISP

2013-06-08 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/29/2013 7:46 PM, Charles Mills wrote: The whole NEW/MOD behavior is incredibly complex when you factor in the different behaviors for sequential versus partitioned datasets. I fear this is going to start a whole "I hate JCL" digression, but MOD means very different things for PDS versus sequ

Re: Check out CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Wahl
I wonder how that compares to all the data stored on DNA in all living things on earth and the sum of all the natural, intrinsic data in all its forms of the physical universe? Harry > Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:41:31 -0700 > From: stars...@mindspring.com > Subject: Re: Check out CERN Data Centre

Re: Check out CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN

2013-06-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
My understanding is the NSA buildings will house 5 Zata Bytes of Storage. Or a Billion TBs (I think) Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread John Gilmore
Sancho is on holiday, and I felt free to do so. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Phil Smith
John Gilmore wrote: >To anyone who cares for the English language >"Get Actionable Insight with Security Intelligence for Mainframe Environments" >is a good deal more offensive than a porous statistic. >It sounds significant, bit it is pretentious nonsense. Properly, actionable' >is a lawyer's te

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread John Gilmore
To anyone who cares for the English language "Get Actionable Insight with Security Intelligence for Mainframe Environments" is a good deal more offensive than a porous statistic. It sounds significant, bit it is pretentious nonsense. Properly, 'actionable' is a lawyer's term that means 'open to

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Phil Smith
Charles Mills wrote: >Where did you see that quote? >I used to teach an (in-house) Intro to Mainframes class. I used that >statistic in the class. I tried to track down something specific (data? >business data? critical business data?) and authoritative (IBM, Gartner, >etc.). I did not succeed. I

Re: Check out CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN

2013-06-08 Thread Ed Finnell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center In a message dated 6/8/2013 2:09:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, st...@trainersfriend.com writes: Wonder how that compares to the data stored at NSA. -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Check out CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN

2013-06-08 Thread Steve Comstock
On 6/8/2013 12:52 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: _CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN_ (http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2013/02/cern-data-centre-passes-100-petabytes) Give them a pretty big honkin data collection. Wonder how that compares to the data stored at NSA. -Steve Comstock T

Re: zIIP Enabler for Natural

2013-06-08 Thread Roland Kinsman
@John McKown, love the Heinlein reference. Brings back very fond memories from high school in the late 70s reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Anyway... Compuware includes support for zIIP enablement in the Compuware Shared Services (CSS) Cobol, PL/I, and Assembler language processors at no

Check out CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN

2013-06-08 Thread Ed Finnell
_CERN Data Centre passes 100 petabytes | CERN_ (http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2013/02/cern-data-centre-passes-100-petabytes) Give them a pretty big honkin data collection. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Charles Mills
Where did you see that quote? I used to teach an (in-house) Intro to Mainframes class. I used that statistic in the class. I tried to track down something specific (data? business data? critical business data?) and authoritative (IBM, Gartner, etc.). I did not succeed. Also, the quote I have usua

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) writes: > In every presentation I've seen where a statistic like this was > presented, it was always qualified as "business data". In that > context, it implied data bases of core customer, account, transaction, > billing, and inventory data (et al) maintained

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread John Gilmore
Some such qualification is clearly necessary. The intent of such statements is to make it clear that the aggregate size of files maintained for and processed on mainframes is [still] very large in relation to those maintained in other, non-mainframe formats for processing elsewhere. Any such ann

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/8/2013 8:46 AM, Phil Smith wrote: 65% of the world's data resides on the mainframe. In every presentation I've seen where a statistic like this was presented, it was always qualified as "business data". In that context, it implied data bases of core customer, account, transaction, billin

Re: Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Conley
On 6/8/2013 11:47 AM, Phil Smith wrote: 65% of the world's data resides on the mainframe. Surely YouTube alone stores more data than resides "on" all the mainframes in the world?! Well, let's see: http://www.youtube.com/yt/press/statistics.html says that "72 hours of video are uploaded to You

Why does IBM keep saying things like this:

2013-06-08 Thread Phil Smith
65% of the world's data resides on the mainframe. Surely YouTube alone stores more data than resides "on" all the mainframes in the world?! Well, let's see: http://www.youtube.com/yt/press/statistics.html says that "72 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute". A minute of video is

Re: Allocated a Non SMS managed Multi volume HFS dataset

2013-06-08 Thread baby eklavya
Sure . Thank you John ! On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:43 PM, John McKown wrote: > I agree. One argument that I have gotten in the past was "but I can easily > allocate an HFS filesystem using simple JCL. To allocate a ZFS, I need to > run an IDCAMS, then the initialization program. What a bother!". W