Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-02-01 Thread Govind Chettiar
Sorry...When I click the reply icon all I see is a blank window. Some listservs have a reply with quote option which I don't see here and I assumed that the prior messages are appended to my post. I didn't explicitly delete or eviscerate anything... Anyway I was responding to Ted MacNeil's

Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Jim Thomas
Hello, I'm trying to get a network printer to be useable (via tcp/ip) from JES2. LINE(n) UNIT=TCP, CONNECT=YES NODE(n) CONNECT=YES, LINE=n, NAME=noden SOCKET(socketn),CONNECT=YES, IPADDR=1.2.3.4, LINE=n, NETSERV=n,

Re: JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could you provide the socket definition Level of z/OS And the complete error message? And any info from the NETSRV stc? Is the NetSrv STC up? Thanks Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent:

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
tedmacn...@bell.blackberry.net (Ted MacNEIL) writes: I've been doing capacity planning since 1981. VM is better than MVS, but it's not 100% accurate. No software monitor can be. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#78 CPU time it may not be reproducible because of things like cache

Re: JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Jim Thomas
Ma'am, Absolutely ... the socket definition (w/local values changed) was included but no worries, I'll re-post. 'n' = numeric value. z/OS 1.13 ... SOCKET(socketn),CONNECT=YES, IPADDR=1.2.3.4, LINE=n, NETSERV=n, NODE=noden No ... I cannot get NETSRV to

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes: At one time (MVS) there was a product called QCM. Which did measure precisely the amount of CPU time that was used by the task and by MVS. Alas it is (AFAIK) no longer marketed. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#78 CPU time

Re: JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
What errors are you seeing with the NETSRVx startup? Does NETSRVx have an OMVS Segment? The HASP466 messages do not show a /* */ paring on the line statement. Is there a /* */? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Jim Thomas
Ma'am, I see no error's on NETSRVn during startup and no, I did not create an OMVS segment for NETSRVn. Didn't quite realize I needed one but will check / read up on it now. Yes .. that was the first thing I checked and yes, they are all paired. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Bob Rutledge
Jim Thomas wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get a network printer to be useable (via tcp/ip) from JES2. LINE(n) UNIT=TCP, CONNECT=YES NODE(n) CONNECT=YES, LINE=n, NAME=noden SOCKET(socketn),CONNECT=YES, IPADDR=1.2.3.4, LINE=n,

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/1/2014 6:45 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: MVS (and vm370) gets total cpu busy by clocking in and out of wait state and subtracting it from elapsed. however vm370 does that also for every other thing it does also ... so all the accounted for time plus wait state time should come up to

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
the detailed MVS capture ratio discussions imply that MVS isn't even bothering to do the clock accounting for large parts of the kernel (and in some cases has been as high as 60%). A long time ago, in a lab far far away, IBM made a (possibly erroneous) decision when CPU was expensive to not

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) writes: Modern operating systems use the System z Extract-CPU-Time Facility, which accumulates accurate execution time, in cooperation with PR/SM, without any slop. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#78 CPU time

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: somebody in europe obtains the rights to a descendent of the performance predictor in the early 90s (in the period that the company had gone into the red, had been reorganized into the 13 baby blues in preparation for breaking up the company) and

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/1/2014 8:27 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: thats what I would have thot ... but I checked the ibm references for capture ratio ... and the references cited in the original post still goes into discussion about capture ratio (up through zos r12) Naturally, the laws of physics dictate the

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, I've tried that too... it was when it failed (on the first go around), that I tried NETSERV (per the doc). Kind Regards. Jim Thomas -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Rutledge Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
I guess I need to get some more understanding of what you are trying to connect to JES2 via TCPIP. What is the type of network printer? Have you verified it can be done this way? The reasons I ask is VPS software is made to handle what JES2 cannot do natively. So I am just trying to verify this

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Ed Gould
Ted: It inserted hooks into the OS. FLIH, SVCH, MCH etc etc... Ed Ed On Feb 1, 2014, at 12:08 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: How can it? Unless it's the highest priority. And, shades of Heisenberg, what about itself? - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Jim Thomas
Ma'am, The physical device is Ricoh Aficio MP2851 and no ... I have not verified anything ... I was merely asked to set it up for people to be able to print to it via JES2 / Mainframe. While I do know that there are 3rd party software out there, sadly, I do not have any ... to me... it should

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) writes: Naturally, the laws of physics dictate the notion of a capture ratio will always exist, but the uncaptured problem has been minimized and for many is no longer worthy of serious concern. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#78 CPU time

Re: What TCB or TCBJLB is reprinted by TSOLIB

2014-02-01 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:09:02 +, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: The OP was discussing using TCBJLB as the input to a FIND macro. If TCBJLB contains an ISPF TASKLIB then a FIND for a module in a TSOLIB declared dataset will not succeed. Correct. As I mentioned earlier the OP

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Tim Brown
We have used info print server and nets pool for years. That should accomplish the same results. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -Original Message- From: Jim Thomas [j...@thethomasresidence.us] Received: Saturday, 01 Feb 2014, 1:15pm To:

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not sure if JES2 can print to a Ricoh Aficio MP2851. Though I will admit I have not kept up with JES2 and printing functions for a while now. So it may be possible, I am just not sure. I would suggest opening up an SR with JES2 and see if this will work. Typically I have had something else

How to print from JES2 using NETSRV to Richo Printer (was JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions)

2014-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Changing the subject line to see if anyone knows that answer. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Re : JES2

Re: Re : JES2 / TCP/IP Network Printer Definitions....

2014-02-01 Thread Ed Finnell
It was hard to find! http://www.ricoh-usa.com/products/product_details.aspx?cid=2scid=2pid=1671 ptm=featurestsn=canada Not sure if it can do JES or AFP. fortunately the folks from Bolder monitor the list and can fill in the blanks. Looks like it's a 'Network printer' with base PCL5 support and

TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread MichealButz
Hi, I get the following results under TESTAUTH which I don't understand 000910 58F0 021C0021C 972 L R15,X'21C' 000914 973 TCBLOOP DS0H

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
This was recently discussed. PSATOLD is for the active TCB. The program has a TCB that is paused at TEST breakpoints. The active TCB is a different TCB because TESTAUTH is now active so you can issue TESTAUTH commands. Jon Perryman. From: MichealButz

Re: Compiled rexx fails on readfile

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
When you have an error in a SYSCALL command, you should display RETVAL, ERRNO and ERRNOJR. I think it's ERRNOJR that you can use with BPXMTEXT to see help information. ERRNO is a generic error number type. RC is even more generic. As for your problem, it's with the parenthesis. They represent

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Micheal Butz
The correct value is what in R15 this matches the TCB displayed by LISTTCB Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: This was recently discussed. PSATOLD is for the active TCB. The program has a TCB that is paused at TEST breakpoints. The

Re: I am getting message IKJ56866I DATA SET NOT ALLOCATED, CONCURRENT ALLOCATIONS

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
It sounds like the FREE is not working properly. LISTDS ST would display the allocated datasets See if your datasets are actually being freed or what is causing the large number of dynamic datasets Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
I'm not sure what you are asking or what you are saying is incorrect. LISTCB will display the TCB for the program you are testing which is what you see in R15. Obviously it should not be the TCB where LISTTCB is running which is PSATOLD.  Jon Perryman.

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Micheal Butz
I understand thanks Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:15 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: I'm not sure what you are asking or what you are saying is incorrect. LISTCB will display the TCB for the program you are testing which is what you see in R15. Obviously it should