Re: Query for Destination z -- mainframe accessibility

2015-03-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 21:07:42 -0400, Gabe Goldberg wrote: Over the years, IBM's done great work making technology accessible -- that is, reducing effects and limitations of diminished hearing, sight, mobility, etc. When I first started in this business in 1970, there were two blind programmers

Re: DB2 Forum

2015-03-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 008701d059fe$6c39b1b0$44ad1510$@mcn.org, on 03/08/2015 at 05:17 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: As I recall you have to sign up at the IDUG Web site (www.idug.org). Unless things have changed, the listservs are interconnected; each listserv will have a table of where to forward

Re: John Eells Item

2015-03-09 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Just to clarify, does the paragraph below mean that the z/OS TCPIP stack will support OpenSSH without having ported tools? We are currently using Cozbatch but would love to be able to use MVS TCPIP for SSH. Thanks Matt z/OS V2.2 is planned to include OpenSSH 6.4p1. This is the same level of

Re: smart phone = lazy user

2015-03-09 Thread Ken Porowski
TLDR can I Google a synopsis? CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its

Re: smart phone = lazy user

2015-03-09 Thread Bass, Walter W
-Original Message- On Monday, March 09, 2015 10:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150305110546.htm Hmmm - wonder why it took them so long to figure that out. Been that way since decent search engines appeared - I was stoked when I discovered

zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Ambros, Thomas
Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we access through Citrix in normal circumstances. I'm experiencing this problem when I use Windows Remote Desktop access to that jump host, bypassing Citrix, so I believe it is something to do with the Windows machine that is the

Re: Loop with Co:Z launcher password checking

2015-03-09 Thread Kirk Wolf
IBM Ported Tools OpenSSH can loop if you have a SSH_ASKPASS program specified and you also use StrictHostKeyChecking=ask. What OpenSSH does is to fork/exec your SSH_ASKPASS program to prompt for yes or no.It views the askpass program as a general purpose prompting mechanism. In your case,

Re: smart phone = lazy user

2015-03-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150305110546.htm Hmmm - wonder why it took them so long to figure that out. Been that way since decent search engines appeared - I was stoked when I discovered Altavista. Way too long for them to figure it out. ;-) Teachers

Hillgang - March 18

2015-03-09 Thread Neale Ferguson
Just to give a little more information than my previous somewhat terse note, the next Hillgang meeting will be March 18 at the CA office in Herndon. Apologies for the late notice but we had to do a reshuffle after one of the original presenters got called up for jury duty! The agenda consists of:

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/9/2015 7:14 AM, David Crayford wrote: I wish my hair was as dark as yours Ed and I'm only 44! I wish I knew lua as well as you do, so we're even... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread David Crayford
On 8/03/2015 6:50 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 12:31:01 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: If you weren't at SHARE in Seattle, you missed an incredible event. You also missed this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpNfinTuPz4 I would have *really* liked to have been able to get to a/any

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread David Crayford
On 9/03/2015 10:31 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 3/9/2015 7:14 AM, David Crayford wrote: I wish my hair was as dark as yours Ed and I'm only 44! I wish I knew lua as well as you do, so we're even... Touche! Great video (and tune). Maybe next time get them all rapping and break dancing to I'm

LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Scott Ford
I have a question about heaps. I want to have a Cobol program call a C routine, the C routine to place data onto the heap then return back to Cobol. The question is can Cobol then reference that data ? Regards, Scott www.identityforge.com

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Lucas Rosalen
I guess that's kinda unlikely as IBM is replacing System z by z Systems. Can you come up with another rhyme? :) Lucas Em 09/03/2015 11:41, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com escreveu: On 9/03/2015 10:31 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 3/9/2015 7:14 AM, David Crayford wrote: I wish my hair was as

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Bob Shannon
10-15 years ago some company (everybody knows the name) who supplied software to the MVS people of the the world, slipped in a advertisement or two during the supper bowel. My company and others dropped their software as fast as possible as they said I am paying top dollar for their software

Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Lucas Rosalen
You may want to check also the java console. Also setting it to debug (I guess it's done by simply typing 5 when it's opened) might help. Lucas Em 09/03/2015 12:45, Ambros, Thomas thomas_amb...@keybank.com escreveu: Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we access

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Sam Siegel
Scott - You will need to pass the address of the heap variable back to COBOL. Then use set address of to associate the address with a COBOL linkage section entry. You may also need to take into consideration how LE clean's up the heap. Depending on which heap the variable is created in, the life

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/9/2015 7:51 AM, David Crayford wrote: Agreed, it's money well spent. It's a fantastic video which made me laugh out loud. Some of those guys probably need a hip replacement after busting a move (that's a joke!). Haha! Thanks! The video was met with cheers and applause at its Seattle

z13 GA today?

2015-03-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I thought I saw a reference somewhere that March 9, 2015 was GA for the z13. Did I imagine that? Looking for the new PoOP and not finding it yet. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and

Strange LE / link list behaviour

2015-03-09 Thread Tom Ross
We're in the process of upgrading to Enterprise COBOL 5.1 and one of our=20 development groups has decided to re-compile all their COBOL modules even=20 though it is not deemed necessary - that's their prerogative.=20 I think it is an excellent idea to recompile all of an application and test it

Hillgang - correct rego URL

2015-03-09 Thread Neale Ferguson
The link in the Hillgang flyer to the registration page is broken. Please use the following instead: http://doodle.com/g4vv62attqx6s6i7 Neale -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:51 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 8/03/2015 6:50 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 12:31:01 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: If you weren't at SHARE in Seattle, you missed an incredible event. You also missed this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpNfinTuPz4 I would

Re: DB2 Forum

2015-03-09 Thread Charles Mills
Generally Yes (RACF, VM, OE) but in this case I think No. It is not actually LISTSERV (TM) but some other forum-type software. I think. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday,

Re: z13 GA today?

2015-03-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 March 2015 at 14:18, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: I thought I saw a reference somewhere that March 9, 2015 was GA for the z13. Did I imagine that? No. That's what the announcement letter said. Tony H.

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Charles Mills
A general answer is Yes. Heap data persists until you explicitly free it. Stack data pops when you return from a called routine. That's a general answer. I don't know your specifics, and everything I know about pointers in COBOL could be engraved on the back of a postage stamp. But in general,

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread David Crayford
Bustin loose on my rhymes, can you say five nines, pumping reliable pistons, running on z systems On 10/03/2015 12:22 AM, Lucas Rosalen wrote: I guess that's kinda unlikely as IBM is replacing System z by z Systems. Can you come up with another rhyme? :) Lucas Em 09/03/2015 11:41, David

Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Gould
Call MS. Ed On Mar 9, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote: Remote access to our HMCs is controlled through a 'jump host' we access through Citrix in normal circumstances. I'm experiencing this problem when I use Windows Remote Desktop access to that jump host, bypassing Citrix, so I

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 11:43:02 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:51 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 8/03/2015 6:50 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: As for the video, way to go. Who gives a tuppenny damn about the (likely insignificant) cost ?. Loosen up folks. Agreed, it's money well spent.

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread David Crayford
I would rather shuffle about with the oldies in shades then hang out with the youngsters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNJ-KC3vvo On 8/03/2015 4:31 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: If you weren't at SHARE in Seattle, you missed an incredible event. You also missed this...

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Barry Merrill
My button show for the zNextGen Opening Session was videotaped by two SHARE staffers, and I suspect the video was similarly produced by the office staff. Thinking further, it was just videoed, so there was no cost of tape, either. Barry Merrill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread L Hagedorn
I've been sending copies to my DB2 friends and put it on Facebook. We need more songs. I particularly liked celebrating how we fix it before anyone gets there! Isn't that the truth? Over night, all night! That's us. Who's working on the next lyrics? Linda Hagedorn Sent from my

Re: smart phone = lazy user

2015-03-09 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
On days when I feel evil I give $10.02 to pay for a lunch of $8.27. he-he-he-he-he. On 3/9/2015 2:51 PM, Alan Schwartz wrote: Alas - Here in the USA they often DO allow kids to use calculators in school. As a consequence we now have an entire generation that is incapable of something as

Re: DB2 Forum

2015-03-09 Thread Robert Galambos
The db2-l listserv software/server was retired a number of years ago. In its place the new home for the forum is at IDUG.ORG. one will need to register but afterwards you can opt in for the mail reflector. While not exactly the same, the benefits/resources are. If you have any questions

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Scott Ford
Guys: I will have to read and try ..my question is how do i pass a lot of data ...a dataspace ? i would like to avoid dasd if I can .. Regards, Scott On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: Scott - You will need to pass the address of the heap variable back to

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Sam Siegel
How much data? 10meg? 100meg? 1gig? On Mar 9, 2015 2:06 PM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote: Guys: I will have to read and try ..my question is how do i pass a lot of data ...a dataspace ? i would like to avoid dasd if I can .. Regards, Scott On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Sam

Re: DB2 Forum

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Finnell
Guess it's peer to peer; i.e. Lsoft to Lsoft. quote from UA listserv The DB2-L list is unknown to lists...@listserv.ua.edu. Your request is being forwarded to the nearest backbone server, _LISTSERV@SWGATE.LSOFT.COM_ (mailto:lists...@swgate.lsoft.com) . which gets forwarded to: quote

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 14:18:15 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote: How much data? 10meg? 100meg? 1gig? How about 10 gig? None of those numbers would be unreasonable if COBOL supported 64-bit addressing. But IBM can't see the use for that. Of course if the data are large enough they go into page data

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Finnell
File 33 of CBT Tape is JES2 Song book. Pretty clever renditions of your favorite predicaments. In a message dated 3/9/2015 4:33:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, linda.haged...@gmail.com writes: I've been sending copies to my DB2 friends and put it on Facebook. We need more songs. I

Re: z13 GA today?

2015-03-09 Thread Jim Mulder
I thought I saw a reference somewhere that March 9, 2015 was GA for the z13. Did I imagine that? Looking for the new PoOP and not finding it yet. IBM z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-10): http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dz9zr010.pdf IBM z/Architecture Reference

Re: z13 GA today?

2015-03-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the links Jim. I hope Mr. Elliot can soon get them onto his CMOS page at http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/cmosproc.html . Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Monday, March 09,

Re: John Eells Item

2015-03-09 Thread Kirk Wolf
I don't speak for IBM, but I read the announcements to say: - z/OS OpenSSH will be a base element in z/OS 2.2, not a separately orderable product. It says that it will initially be the same level as IBM Ported Tools for z/OS 1.3 - OpenSSH, but IBM also makes a SOD about future enhancements such

New Principles of Operation

2015-03-09 Thread Abe Kornelis
All, I just downloaded the new version of the Principles of Operation SA22-7832-10 from IBM. The vector new vector architecture looks interesting, but completely different from the old vector architecture. Regards, Abe Kornelis ==

Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-09 Thread Ambros, Thomas
Java issue. Downgrading to version 6 as on old hosts worked around it. SR time... Thomas Ambros zEnterprise Operating Systems zEnterprise Systems Management 518-436-6433 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould

Re: Query for Destination z -- mainframe accessibility

2015-03-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6497892476027074.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/09/2015 at 09:17 AM, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: When I first started in this business in 1970, there were two blind programmers who worked at Wayne State. I would guess that one was

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Scott Ford
Sam, 2-3 G . Regards, Scott On Monday, March 9, 2015, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 14:18:15 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote: How much data? 10meg? 100meg? 1gig? How about 10 gig? None of those numbers would be unreasonable if

OpenSSH 1.3 (was: John Eells Item)

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 14:55:27 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: OpenSSH is an application that uses the z/OS TCP/IP stack.IBM did not announce that z/OS Communications Server would include OpenSSH. Other than component ownership of the function, does this imply any operational difference? Kirk Wolf

Re: OpenSSH 1.3 (was: John Eells Item)

2015-03-09 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gil, I assume that you are correct, but I'm not certain that I understand the question. Co:Z Batch is a utility to run the z/OS Unix shell in batch, fixing many of the limitations of BPXBATCH. What Co:Z SFTP users usually do something like: // EXEC PGM=COZBATCH (run a z/OS UNIX login shell in

Re: (slightly) OT - developmentworks outage

2015-03-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
Of course that should be developerWorks :( -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

(slightly) OT - developmentworks outage

2015-03-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
Anyone got the maint schedule for DW (no, not Deutsche Welle) ?. It's been down for a couple of days. Thanks Shane -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: DB2 Forum

2015-03-09 Thread Robert Galambos
You are right. We do not use listserv but another facility. On 2015-03-09 12:38 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Generally Yes (RACF, VM, OE) but in this case I think No. It is not actually LISTSERV (TM) but some other forum-type software. I think. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM

OpenSSH 1.3 (was: John Eells Item)

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 14:55:27 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: I don't speak for IBM, but I read the announcements to say: - z/OS OpenSSH will be a base element in z/OS 2.2, not a separately orderable product. It says that it will initially be the same level as IBM Ported Tools for z/OS

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Sam Siegel
OK ... that is a lot of data. Since an address space provides for just 2GB in the 31 bit range for code, data and system code, you cannot get 3GB in there. You have the following choices: 1) 1 or more data spaces 2) 64bit memory 3) some 31 bit data in current address space; remainder in

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Gould
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I shared it with co-workers who promptly showed it to the boss and the boss came over to me and said if they have that kind of Money to throw away looks like SHARE is out of the budget next year and the foreseeable future. Ed On Mar 9, 2015, at 12:48

Re: (slightly) OT - developmentworks outage

2015-03-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
Panic over - they is back online. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Charles Mills
Good grief! Your employer company doesn't advertise? No wonder they don't have any money. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 8:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Check out Friday is Pi Day

2015-03-09 Thread Ed Finnell
_Friday is Pi Day_ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/03/13/pi-day-friday-31415/6369483/) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-09 Thread Mark Post
On 3/10/2015 at 12:44 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Good grief! Your employer company doesn't advertise? No wonder they don't have any money. Makes me wonder if they're all tottering around on walkers, randomly yelling get off my lawn when they manage to perceive another human

Re: smart phone = lazy user

2015-03-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of761b6387.5474faec-on87257e03.006b5bff-86257e03.006d1...@us.ibm.com, on 03/09/2015 at 02:51 PM, Alan Schwartz schw...@us.ibm.com said: Anyone ever read the short story The Feeling of Power by Isaac Asimov? Is there anybody who didn't read it, and the Holmes-Ginsbook device as well? --

Re: LE Question

2015-03-09 Thread Scott Ford
Sam, Yeah I agree. I might have to stay with QSAM file until we can write and test an API.. Thanks a lot, As always much appreciated. Regards, Scott On Monday, March 9, 2015, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: OK ... that is a lot of data. Since an address space provides for just 2GB in the

Share Question on DFSORT and UNICODE

2015-03-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
There was a question posed at Share as to whether it would be of benefit for DFSORT to handle UNICODE sorts. This would not be for DB2 invoked sorts, but rather native Batch DFSORTs (PGM=SORT for DFSORT). Would it be helpful to tell DFSORT to handle Unicode data for Sorts. Any

Re: Share Question on DFSORT and UNICODE

2015-03-09 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
I spent some time in a IBM Non-Disclosure meeting on this topic. I've basically said that I would expect a non DB2 Sort to produce EXACTLY the same results as an IN-DB2 Sort Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you

Re: Share Question on DFSORT and UNICODE

2015-03-09 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Non-Disclosure was the wrong term to use - it was just not a public session. I apologize for the misleading previous e-mail. Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original