Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants

2015-07-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. In this case, there's no great mystery: we have solid wage/salary data in most developed countries. For example, the

Re: CICS Upgrade

2015-07-02 Thread Thomas Dunlap
Samat, I have included a link to the CICS TS product documentation. Here you will find PDFs which cover migrating to the current release from many different levels. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGMCP_5.2.0/com.ibm.cics.proddoc.doc/topics/PDF.html Hope this gives you a

Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?

2015-07-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 10:38:31 +0100, Toni Cecil wrote: Hi Shane, it might sound strange to you, but we need to demonstrate to one our clients that moving data from mod3, or mod9 to mod27 didn't cause any dasd performance problems for their applications. That's a living. No, not strange at all -

Re: EMCS Console identities

2015-07-02 Thread Rob Scott
In SDSF, you can set the console name using Set Console name from the Options drop down or by using the primary command SET CONSOLE x -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Terry Sambrooks Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015

EMCS Console identities

2015-07-02 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi I ned advice on where to look for information on how the names of an EMCS Console is assigned, as the manuals and Google searches have not helped much. The situation I have is that the name of the EMCS console which gets assigned when I start an SDSF session under TSO is different to the TSO

Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?

2015-07-02 Thread Toni Cecil
Hi Shane, it might sound strange to you, but we need to demonstrate to one our clients that moving data from mod3, or mod9 to mod27 didn't cause any dasd performance problems for their applications. That's a living. Regards, A.Cecilio. 2015-06-27 5:47 GMT+01:00 Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au:

CICS Upgrade

2015-07-02 Thread zos reader
Hi All, We are planning to Upgrade CICS 3.1 to current level in our Shop running on z/OS 1.13. Can someone help me by sharing any manuals or documents or any ideas for upgrading CICS. Since i am from z/OS background and CICS guy is on Medical leave and we are in need in implementing on Sandbox

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:27:27 +, Cannaerts, Jan wrote: Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! ;-) editing in vi is easy - getting out of the session is the challenge. As for emacs, the origin should be somewhere above the proficiency level of vi.

Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Toni, Just some observations on today's storage array and DASD Volumes. And some points to consider when doing DASD response time analysis. Basically, DASD is emulated across flash/spinning disk in a storage array. The only difference, in my understanding, is the size of the volume and how

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Cannaerts, Jan
Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! Similar in style, correctness, and entertainment value is the following (whose topic does not necessarily pertain to the list); http://i.imgur.com/jj16ThL.jpg I remember using it once to describe the learning

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Pommier, Rex
Jan, I took the comic as just the opposite. The learning curve for VI is very high right from the beginning, in that you have to learn a lot about vi before you can do anything with it. I know the first time (several times???) I was exposed to vi by thoughts were along the lines of what

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-02, at 07:27, Cannaerts, Jan wrote: Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! Pedant! But, yes, that's exactly what the graph shows, but perhaps the opposite of what the artist intended.

Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?

2015-07-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Statistics can always show what you think you want. But, showing 24-hour averages doesn't prove a lack of performance impact. You're doing your customers a disservice if you don't demonstrate the impact during peak times. 10-15 minute duration. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Toni Cecil

Re: Leap Second today!

2015-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 00:30:16 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: On the red Hat page Linus Torvil tries to explain that much of the application software was designed and built in an ERA(1999-2005) that had no leap seconds. 'It's always something' R. Rosanadan ??? The first (two?) leap seconds were in

Re: Downgrading ENQ

2015-07-02 Thread Staller, Allan
I believe that prior to z/OS 2.1 the enqueue would *never* be downgraded. This is also the default behavior in z/OS 2.1. However in z.OS 2.1 the option to downgrade the enqueue exists with some JCL changes. I haven't looked for the JCL keywords/syntax, but here is a quote from the z/OS 2.1

Downgrading ENQ

2015-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Suppose: ALLOCATE DD(DDSHR) DSN(FOO.BAR) SHR There is now an ENQ SHR SYSDSN FOO.BAR Then: ALLOCATE DD(DDEXC) DSN(FOO.BAR) OLD The ENQ is upgraded to EXC ... some stuff ... Then: FREE DD(DDEXC) is the ENQ downgraded back to SHR? Why or why not? -- gil

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Mike Wawiorko
vi takes me back to the days of TSO line EDIT via teletype before the days of 3270 and SPF. A nasty port from MVS to Unix??? ;-) Mike Wawiorko    Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Grinsell, Don
I learned programming in high school on one of those. involuntary_shudder/ -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from

Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors

2015-07-02 Thread Tom Brennan
For me, the graph is correct as long as you assume the vertical scale is really low. I learned about 20 commands the first day I used vi, and I still only know about 20 commands - 10 years later. Cannaerts, Jan wrote: Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely

Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants

2015-07-02 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. To net it out, we don't see evidence

Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants

2015-07-02 Thread Leonard Sasso
The REAL reason they bring foreign workers to the U.S. is because they can pay them LESS money to do the work. Thank You. Len Sasso RDC Applications Management - Professional: System Administrator Backup QMR - Production Operations CSC Vacation Alert: ? 327 Columbia TPKE, Rensselaer NY

Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
So a few options. Buy product from DTS Software called SRS/ACC - easy control through these products If ALL users, then ACS code or ALLOCxx If Some users, then maybe an Allocation Exit. Lizette -Original Message- From: Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com Sent: Jul 2, 2015

FW: Help finding on-line SAS training

2015-07-02 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Hi, I sent this out and haven't heard back. I thought I'd try IBM-MAIN. Thank you, Dave From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sa...@listserv.uga.edu' Subject: Help finding on-line SAS training Dear Group, I am looking for an online

Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you are familiar with SAS, then I would just get some of their books and study. otherwise WWW.SAS.COME/TRAINING Lots of virtual, e training and physical classroom there. they have eliminated some of their training session and added others. probably that one is either different or not

Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training

2015-07-02 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Thank you, Lizette. Haven't opened up a book yet. It's a direction and our education must be formal, not just YouTube contributions. There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube. They just recently let us have access to YouTube. Have a great weekend, Dave -Original Message-

Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Dave, Best of luck. You only have the selection that is on the sas training website. Not much else out there other than universities/colleges Lizette -Original Message- From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not amp;WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Rob Schramm
Why not go after volumes / storage group where OS-temps are? Rob Schramm On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 8:12 PM Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary

Re: Leap Second today!

2015-07-02 Thread Anthony Thompson
It depends on how much a z/OS site needs, or doesn't need, precise timing. Server Timer Protocol can add a leap second at the appropriate time (goes into a wait for the second), or it can gradually 'steer' the time over seven hours, gradually correcting the system time. Attached is nice

Re: Leap Second today!

2015-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:36:26 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: Yikes. Too much hasenpfeffer... http://www.wired.com/2012/07/leap-second-glitch-explained/ In my time zone, the leap second occurred at 17:59:60. So, I wonder about the z/OS STIMER macro: If, at 17:59:59 I had issued STIMER

Re: CICS Upgrade

2015-07-02 Thread zos reader
Thanks Tom.! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Dunlap thomas.dun...@att.net wrote: Samat, I have included a link to the CICS TS product documentation. Here you will find PDFs which cover migrating to the current release from many different levels.

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
SMF 15 reports a dataset output CLOSE. SMF 42 reports a member update or delete. Is this a file integrity event? Is this worth correlating, or is it noise? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent:

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:25 -0700 on 07/02/2015, Charles Mills wrote about Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by n: Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a false positive on

Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants

2015-07-02 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
I've heard that L1 visas are a way around H1B visa limits. -Original Message- From: Dana Mitchell [mailto:mitchd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants On Thu, 2 Jul

IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE

2015-07-02 Thread Binyamin Dissen
But I do not want it to be set/increased. How can I force it so that secondary extents are not allocated? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from

Re: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES

2015-07-02 Thread retired mainframer
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES Hallo All, I am stuck with trying to figure out how I can

Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants

2015-07-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Less money usually means less skill, too. So it seems from my experience up here in Canada. (less care, too) - -teD -   Original Message   From: Leonard Sasso Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 13:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes: IT

Re: Leap Second today!

2015-07-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Yikes. Too much hasenpfeffer... http://www.wired.com/2012/07/leap-second-glitch-explained/ In a message dated 7/2/2015 11:04:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jayare...@hotmail.com writes: Ah, yes, Torvil! Quite the ice dancer in her day, too.

Query for Destination z article -- sysprog attributes

2015-07-02 Thread Gabe Goldberg
What attributes do system programmers absolutely need? Which are nice to have? Are there kiss-of-death traits for system programmers? Attributes can be skills, instincts, knowledge, etc. What's critical, what works, what doesn't matter, what's best never shown or seen? Perhaps at least as

SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES

2015-07-02 Thread willie bunter
Hallo All, I am stuck with trying to figure out how I can code the variable for a Batch userid. For examle users aren't allowed to create a PDSe. I thought by coding the condition for the user's batch id it would solve the problem. However, I looked at all the SMS ACS read variable list but

Re: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES

2015-07-02 Thread Greg Shirey
USER is the User ID associated with the batch job. If you have a FILTLIST of the User IDs called, say, NOPDSES, then you can code: WHEN (USER EQ NOPDSES AND DSNTYPE EQ 'LIB') THEN DO WRITE 'NOT ALLOWED FOR PDSE' EXIT CODE(12) END HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E.

Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE

2015-07-02 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam900/bv1184w.htm When the secondary extent is specified as zero for a PDS to PDSE copy, the secondary extent is set to one unit of the space unit that is specified as the primary allocation, to allow the copy to

Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants

2015-07-02 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/2/2015 11:49 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general

Re: Leap Second today!

2015-07-02 Thread J R
On the red Hat page Linus Torvil ... Ah, yes, Torvil! Quite the ice dancer in her day, too. === Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 00:30:16 -0400 From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Leap Second today! To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On the red Hat page Linus

Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE

2015-07-02 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:14:05 -0500 Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: :http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam900/bv1184w.htm Yes, I recognize that is the normal behavior. I do not want it. :When the secondary extent is specified as zero for a PDS

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a false positive on SYSHELLO.THEATRE.RA000.FOO.BAR but I would think you are kind of asking for trouble if you name your dataset that. Charles -Original

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
I'm aware. Thanks. It's not a RACF question; I was just using RACF notation to express my logic. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:40 PM To:

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you activated TEMPDSN? I think this will provide the process you would need. To activate the TEMPDSN class, enter: SETROPTS CLASSACT(TEMPDSN) Lizette -Original Message- From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your search list 'SYSyyddd.T*.R*.**' Here is a link to naming convention of temp datasets

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you were not aware, there is a RACF list that might be more helpful. To subscribe to the RACF-L discussion in order to receive postings, send a note to: lists...@listserv.uga.edu Include the following line in the body of the note, substituting your first name and last name as indicated:

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If this were in place I couldn't sleep. Signed, Old Guy Easily Frightened. On 7/2/2015 4:25 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a

Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training

2015-07-02 Thread Barry Merrill
http://www.sas.com/en_us/software/university-edition.html Free SAS Software. An interactive, online community. Superior training and documentation. And the analytic skills you need to secure your future Barry Merrill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
If exactly what were in place? Again, this is *not* for a RACF profile. I am just expressing the rule using EGN. Would SYS?.T??.RA000.* make people happier? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony's

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Tom Brennan
Maybe he thinks once you find them you're going to delete them. Charles Mills wrote: If exactly what were in place? Again, this is *not* for a RACF profile. I am just expressing the rule using EGN. Would SYS?.T??.RA000.* make people happier? Charles -Original Message- From: