On Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:47:07 UTC+2, John McKown wrote:
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> Hum, I would guess this will be a case of "20 lines of code and 200 lines
> of comments (excluding cursing)"
>
>
>
> >
Excluding cursing, and including recursing.
Any IT management who chooses that route over
The Australian prime minister has just given a press conference and
pointed the finger directly at IBM for this debacle. It's entirely
predictable in this day
and age that a high profile event like an online census will face some
kind of cyber attack. It happens all the time. IBM, the service
On 11/08/2016 8:44 AM, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
The video specifically noted that fork does work...!
Yes, but I take that with a pinch of salt because there's no Windows API
call that performs a real fork. There are similar functions to spawn()
but nothing that does CoW like fork().
Microsoft
The video specifically noted that fork does work...!
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David Crayford
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On 11/08/2016 8:02 AM, John McKown wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:44 PM, David Crayford wrote:
Looks like Rockets R port is using Enhanced ASCII
http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/r-the-language-for-statist
ical-computing-is-now-on-z-os/297.
I have a friend, ex
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:44 PM, David Crayford wrote:
> Looks like Rockets R port is using Enhanced ASCII
> http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/r-the-language-for-statist
> ical-computing-is-now-on-z-os/297.
>
I have a friend, ex co-worker, who now works for Rocket. Sounds
On 10/08/2016 11:35 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
That "Linux on Windows" thing (not a VM, they point out!) is certainly
interesting. Hope it does better than Windows Services for UNIX et al!
Indeed, my mistake. They intercept syscalls and translate them to
Windows API calls. It's like a giant
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Bill Woodger
wrote:
> Thanks, Chuck. Tough sitch.
>
> I think as definitive as you are going to get, in a documentary sense, is
> this, from the Programming Guide (doesn't matter which version):
>
> "Calling alternate entry points
>
>
Looks like Rockets R port is using Enhanced ASCII
http://forum.rocketsoftware.com/t/r-the-language-for-statistical-computing-is-now-on-z-os/297.
On 10/08/2016 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Gil,
You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap? I've never heard
that before :-)
Kirk Wolf
Which company had their primary in the South tower and the backup in the
North tower?
Anyway, preliminary reports are Murphy paid a visit. Switches that were
supposed to switch didn't. UPS got confused in the switch gear failure and
went to hover mode. The Smart phone ecosystem got out
Whoever their outsourcer is they need to be sued into non-existence for
incompetence? The revenue loss had to be massive.
Reminds me after HPE acquired Perrot (old name) they laid-off all the heavy
mainframe people and over XMAS 2009 they had to do some upgrader to the RBS
Data Center in the
On 8/10/2016 2:00 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
No planes fell out of Delta's sky. It was the reservation system that crashed;
I doubt that the FAA has much to say in that arena.
Exactly. And, the removal of airfare price fixing 38 years ago had no
bearing on it either. IJS.
Once the dust
jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) writes:
> Airlines are no longer 'heavily regulated'. They used to be. Telecom
> was deregulated. Banks were deregulated. There was more competition in
> all these industries when regulation was in place. The 'natural
> tendency' of any industry is to
Some more interesting news on Delta
http://www.cringely.com/
here is some of the article
Delta Airlines was an IBM outsourcing customer, they may still be today, I
don't know. They haven't returned my call.
Loss of power in a data center usually triggers a disaster recovery plan. When
that
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
Point taken. But banks are also still regulated
If one is in need of experts on the US economy and regulatory policy, the IBM-MAIN list is a tremendous resource of
really great ... computer programmers :)
We now return (hopefully) to the discussion of IBM mainframes.
Thanks, Chuck. Tough sitch.
I think as definitive as you are going to get, in a documentary sense, is this,
from the Programming Guide (doesn't matter which version):
"Calling alternate entry points
Static calls to alternate entry points work without restriction."
I made a static CALL to an
Point taken. But banks are also still regulated despite their (no longer so
new) freedom to gobble each other up willy nilly. So then we had the financial
meltdown of 2008/9. My point is that a shrinking number of players in these
industries are now freer to put their *business* interests ahead
On 8/10/2016 11:34 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
Airlines are no longer 'heavily regulated'. They used to be. Telecom was
deregulated. Banks were deregulated. There was more competition in all these
industries when regulation was in place. The 'natural tendency' of any industry
is to
Airlines are no longer 'heavily regulated'. They used to be. Telecom was
deregulated. Banks were deregulated. There was more competition in all these
industries when regulation was in place. The 'natural tendency' of any industry
is to consolidate to maximize profits and to dodge regulatory
Again, I'm skeptical. There were reports of bad information being displayed
on monitors and notifications sent to customers.
How does bad information get sent from systems that aren't up yet? This
suggests that the start-up process itself is seriously flawed and that there
is little data
Regardless of the technology choice, it would be nice if there were enough
competition in the US airline industry such that you could choose an
airline with a hot DR plan that they regularly exercise.
IMO this is evidence that the heavy regulatory environment is of little
actual value.
Kirk Wolf
The most telling detail I've seen is that the Delta 'system', whatever that
entails, encompasses 500 servers! Of those, 400 came up early-ish on, but 100
others proved obstreperous. OK, folks here have cited--even boasted
about--nearly transparent DR failover. Really? Can anyone on this list
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 10:32:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap? I've never heard
>that before :-)
>
You mean I forgot to tell you?
It would be somewhat better if the RTL had support for Curses and X11.
>> >Rocket is in the process of porting git
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:30:14 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:
>e.g.:
>ld -V -brent -o "//'USER.TEST.LOAD(TEST1)'" ...
>
Thanks. Will c99 or xlc or whatever pseudonym cc is hiding under
nowadays pass this on to ld?
>> But does anyone know how to cause "make" to direct its program object output
>> to a
That "Linux on Windows" thing (not a VM, they point out!) is certainly
interesting. Hope it does better than Windows Services for UNIX et al!
When Richard Stallman learns of this I imagine he will have a bit to say about
the terminology.
Gil,
You think that Enhanced ASCII support in z/OS is crap? I've never heard
that before :-)
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:16:50 -0500, Jerry Callen wrote:
>[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]
>
>Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As others
>have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues. ...
>
Ed -
to clarify - your clients all have the git remote repo mounted with SMB and
then they use the "Local Protocol" ?
This is fine for some environments, but giving everyone r/w mounts to the
repo file system can be a little dangerous.
(for git connection protocols, see:
On 8/10/2016 6:16 AM, Jerry Callen wrote:
Meanwhile: I use git with z/OS using the "large sledgehammer" approach. I keep
my actual git repositories on Windows and use WinSCP to periodically copy the source back
and forth between Windows and z/OS.
We maintain our git repositories on z/OS via
e.g.:
ld -V -brent -o "//'USER.TEST.LOAD(TEST1)'" ...
sas
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:01:33 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>
> >> Was there a job log message, S213-rc identifying the catenand?
> >
>
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Bill Woodger wrote:
> OK, it is the RENT or REUS (either will do) on the link-edit/bindering.
>
> Without RENT/REUS you get a new executable for free. With RENT/REUS you
> get to "share" the original program, but it is necessarily a
[Prompted by mentions of git on another thread]
Rocket is in the process of porting git to z/OS (on USS, of course). As others
have noted, it's challenging, given the ASCII/EBCDIC issues. Nonetheless, we
hope to have a public beta available by the end of the year; it will be
announced on
The wherefores of using a main program and an ENTRY versus 2 programs is a
political battle I am not prepared or willing to fight.
When initially assigned this project I was hoping that my Systems status within
the company would grant me some carte blanche in how I engineered the solution
but,
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>
>
> > I'm a bit OCD about trying to make all my code RENT,REUS. My main way to
> think of this is "would this still run correctly if it were burned into
> ROM?" I try to make the answer to that YES.
>
>
> Put all your RENT
Hi all
During last days it seems that I cannot connect to my internet proxy server
using IBM Download Director. So, I have to select direct connection instead of
a proxy. Is this a known defect of the latest IBM download director ?
Kind regards
Kostas
Please consider voting for this RFE to expose the PDSE Version and Maxgen info
in the SMS ACS routines:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=92818
--
Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
Mainframe
Hi Chuck,
Thanks. Yes, I was able to recreate the issue after making the post with the
questions in.
RENT,REUS or REUS or RENT, ie any combinaton, on the linkediting/bindering
causes no new executable to be loaeded in this case, so tha ALIASed ENTRY is in
the same executable as the CALL.
Bob,
Since John is working with a stripped down copy of my program I resurrected the
copy of the program with my debugging displays in it where I had already coded
the displays for the two addresses you asked about.
Displaying the main entry point address, that is, the name of the program as
There is no date yet, but the PTFs being created are:
UA82358 2.1
UA82359 2.2
After reading the APAR description, I *am* tracking it. :-)
Bob
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Dutch television had the info that passengers were in trouble because their
data was lost in the disaster. If true, this is of course totally unacceptable
for such a company, whatever the disaster.
Kees.
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