Re: Erase on Scratch

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > In a prior life at a bank, we did a DR exercise at a vendor business recovery > site. At the end, we were supposed to erase all the data we had restored. We > did the RACF needful to erase on delete, started

Re: SMS STORGRP question

It has been a little while working directly with SMS, but if your volumes in the OVERFLOW storage group are in an ENABLE status then SMS will treat them the same as the volumes in the SVCDUMP storage group. SMS will look for the best "fit" for the dataset allocation. So if OVEFLOW has more

Re: LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))

On 22/04/2017 1:20 AM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Is it naive to hope that Swift some could "replace" COBOL on z/OS? I'm not clear on IBM's ideas of what Swift would be used for on z/OS. There have been many attempts to replace COBOL over the years. Anybody remember EGL? That was a flop. The

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

——SNIP-- > On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:49 PM, zMan wrote: > > Well, just connect them! That's a small price to pay for ensuring > compliance with vendors' licenses! > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Edward

Re: Erase on Scratch

In a prior life at a bank, we did a DR exercise at a vendor business recovery site. At the end, we were supposed to erase all the data we had restored. We did the RACF needful to erase on delete, started some kind of 'delete all' process, and went out to lunch. Came back a few hours later. It

DFHEXLI vs DFHECI

I am working with a site, and their CICS COBOL compile procs include DFHEXLI instead of DFHECI. I thought DFHEXLI was only for batch programs using the external interface link. But, there is not much information about it when I google it. Can DFHEXLI safely be used for "normal" CICS

SMS STORGRP question

'Forever' we have directed DUMPSRV SVC dumps via ACS routine to STORGRP 'SVCDUMP', which is defined to a small set of volumes called SVCDxx. We had a (major) problem a while back when DB2/CICS wanted to take a humongous dump that exceeded the available capacity of of the SVCDxx volumes. So we

Re: LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))

Looks like it might be a good replacement for REXX. Not sure if its a good replacement for COBOL... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:19 PM To:

Re: LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))

Lua for z/CPUs is very fast and very low cpu usage. http://lua4z.com/ Kind of a mini pascal. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > I installed the beta and agree that in its current state it is not very > useful, but I am encouraged by the

Re: SPACE parameters (was: FTP Failing with space issues)

Actually, take the size of the maximum allocation on a volume (64K tracks (non extended) or largest volume(extended)) and divide by 16 and use that for Primary / Secondary. Storage class can even extend onto 59 volumes. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

Bill, I apologize for the oversight in parsing the dataset name. As soon as I sent my earlier reply I realized that I did not cover all the scenarios for the dataset name. If the HLQ is less than 6 bytes the parse would grab the time which starts before the dataset name. for example the

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

Thanks, Kolusu - that is better now! I will go and learn about HIT=NEXT, as I have not run into that before. Have a good weekend! On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Sri h Kolusu wrote: > Bill, > > You really don't need to complicate the control to get the desired > results.

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

W dniu 2017-04-21 o 21:48, Tony Harminc pisze: On 21 April 2017 at 15:09, R.S. wrote: Regarding the "call home" method - I DONT LIKE IT! Really, that's not good idea to enforce Internet connection just to perform such an action. I would agree for HMC to

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

Bill, You really don't need to complicate the control to get the desired results. I have optimized your control cards a bit which would give you the desired results //SYSINDD * OPTION COPY INCLUDE COND=(1,003,CH,EQ,C'250',OR, 1,100,SS,EQ,C'.BIN ') INREC

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

On 21 April 2017 at 15:09, R.S. wrote: > Regarding the "call home" method - I DONT LIKE IT! > Really, that's not good idea to enforce Internet connection just to perform > such an action. I would agree for HMC to communicate, however I have no idea > whether it's

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

Hi Kolusu, I think I messed up my original note by trying to keep the characters in order. I have attached a file that shows my JCL with input and output expected. The current run, though has a problem with the Parse for %02 and %03. I hope you can help me with this - it is probably simple.

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

This discussion has been going on for a while and it begs the question. How many people/companies DR are their Alternate/DR-CBU facility? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth Sent: Friday,

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

How about ... One license key for the 'production use' with a 30 day grace period on the licensed CEC(S). One license key good for 30 days that will work on any CEC (no specific start or end date) It gives the vendor a guarantee that a licensed customer does not run for more than 30-60 days

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

W dniu 2017-04-21 o 16:20, Wendell Lovewell pisze: I work for a vendor, so I understand the necessity of making sure that licensed products are used properly. But I also understand the inconvenience for both the customer and the vendor of managing software keys. I’m wondering what the list’s

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

Well, just connect them! That's a small price to pay for ensuring compliance with vendors' licenses! On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > > On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Wendell Lovewell > wrote: > > > > I work for a vendor, so

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Wendell Lovewell wrote: > > I work for a vendor, so I understand the necessity of making sure that > licensed products are used properly. But I also understand the inconvenience > for both the customer and the vendor of managing software

Re: SPACE parameters (was: FTP Failing with space issues)

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:13:03 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: JCL has similar archaic restrictions. Why not code > >BLKSIZE=0,SPACE=(100,50) -- (10 GB primary, >> 5 GB secondary), amounts very reasonable with modern DASD, and > let the >OS make the determination of blocks,

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:46:30 -0400, Bill Ashton wrote: > >Is there a way to not use ABSPOS=65, but instead to say I want to start >following a space after Col 60? In Rexx, I could say to use the 10th word, >but I don't want to change the SORT to Rexx now, as this input is doing a >number of

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

Ok what you say is that we can do like the one below . is that what you are referring ? SITE BLOCKSIZE=0 LRECL=133 WRAP RECFM=FB PRI=20 SEC=10 CYL put unix_file.txt 'HLQ.MAINFRAME.FILE(+1)' (replace Thanks Ron T -- For

Re: SPACE parameters (was: FTP Failing with space issues)

>>> JCL has similar archaic restrictions. Why not code > BLKSIZE=0,SPACE=(100,50) -- (10 GB primary, > 5 GB secondary), amounts very reasonable with modern DASD, and > let the OS make the determination of blocks, tracks, or cylinders? Paul, May be use AVGREC ?

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

Bill, Why bother about the position. From the looks of it, you need to pick the last qualifier. So go find the last byte space and then subtract 12 bytes to get to your dataset name. something like this //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SORTIN DD *

SPACE parameters (was: FTP Failing with space issues)

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:11:33 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: >The closest you can get even in 2.02 is to use; BLKsize=### and BLocks . > Which goes against IBM's current recommendation to specify BLKSIZE=0 and to allow SDB to operate. JCL has similar archaic restrictions. Why not code

How to parse rows using SORT

Hello friends! I just ran into a problem, and am a bit confused how to correct this. I am reading the output of an FTP list command, and using SORT to capture and format the FTP GET commands I need. This process is working fine for the most part, and it produces the correct commands most of the

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

So going from a "windows" environment to mainframe - there is a difference with record sizes. The "windows" environment has long records. The file being created in the mainframe side (and you should logon to the mainframe to view it in Option 3.4) will have a fixed or VB record length that

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

You may wish to work with your z/OS Sysprogs on setting up GDGs with sufficient size. Then a +1 dataset can be created without the need to delete/allocate process. The GDG can have a limit of 1 or other to accommodate your needs. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

Ok . i tried to copy a csv file that is there in the shell and i am getting the below message . I tried increasing the LRECL of the PDS file and still the same issue . Any idea on what could be the issue here ? $ cp -T SN_ASC00_03212017.csv "//'ng772pt.X.Y.Z'" cp: FSUM6260 write error on file

Re: LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))

I installed the beta and agree that in its current state it is not very useful, but I am encouraged by the effort and hopeful that we'll see some useful features "soon". Is it naive to hope that Swift some could "replace" COBOL on z/OS? I'm not clear on IBM's ideas of what Swift would be

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

Unless your stg admins on the mainframe side say there is a limitation, there is probably no limitation. In my shop, we allow as many files as the users want to send up to the mainframe and in various sizes from small (1tk) to huge >4gb. The SMS code will handle the files locations to the

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

Ok , in that case if on the mainframe side has a file system setup , then they can send the file and from there we can copy back a PDS location. I need to understand whether there is any limitation on the number of files send or any memory constraints ? is that the best approach ? I am new

Re: CPU/L in SDSF

The CPU/L field is showing you two things: CPU utilization from z/OSes point of view, and the CPU utilization from PR/SM's point of view. You had the system capped, and were using all of the resources that were available to you at the z/OS level. That's what the 100 means. z/OS was using all of

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

Fair trade? You're thinking like a vendor :) It's been shown time and time again (at least in the Windows "shareware" world) that all call-home does is upset your most loyal, paying customers, while getting absolutely nothing from the folks who have no intention of ever paying a cent for the

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

VS1 -Original Message- >From: Anthony Fletcher >Sent: Apr 15, 2017 10:36 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Mainframe operating systems? > >I was the SYSPROG in its later stages before moving on to TSO using TCAM >which was a disaster to start with. >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

The 'phone home' is an interesting idea but would have to be via a secure communication protocol (we do not allow non-secure FTP but do support secure FTP). Some shops wouldn't allow the 'phone home' so there must be an allowance for those customers. Ideally some vendor could open source such

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

And how would implementing SCRT solve what I see as a vendor's two most pressing concerns that are often addressed with "keys": - Is this or some other customer running this product on some CPU that we have no knowledge about? - This customer has been running a "30-day" trial of our product for

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

I work for a vendor, so I understand the necessity of making sure that licensed products are used properly. But I also understand the inconvenience for both the customer and the vendor of managing software keys. I’m wondering what the list’s response would be toward implementing a system

Re: LINKLIST and Steplib

I used to find the term "job pack" to be confusing. It's not quite as specific a "thing" as STEPLIB or the LPA. It's simply "everything you already loaded." (And yes, you could criticize the precision of that statement, but you get the idea.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

On 4/21/2017 3:45 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: Logical, practical, thus it will never happen. But one can hope. Many ISVs (including Phoenix) have been pushing for this for years. We put code into (E)JES to register/deregister with IFAEDREG back in 2006 in hopes that it would appear on

Re: LLVM

On 21/04/2017 9:41 PM, David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:22:04 +0800, David Crayford (dcrayf...@gmail.com) wrote about "LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))" (in ): [snip] IBM have ported LLVM/clang to

Re: LLVM

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:22:04 +0800, David Crayford (dcrayf...@gmail.com) wrote about "LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))" (in ): [snip] > IBM have ported LLVM/clang to z/OS. The beta of swift gives the game away I

LLVM ( wasRe: Swift on z/OS (was Data/hiperspaces (was: ... 4G bar?))

IBM have ported LLVM/clang to z/OS. The beta of swift gives the game away DOC:/u/doc: >swiftc --version Swift version 3.0-dev (LLVM , Clang , Swift ) Target: s390x-ibm-zos Interestingly they have a libbsd.a static library which appears to be a shim of the the BSD C/C++ runtime library. Right

Re: KC Authentication failed

Refrain: The "new tools" are neither as reliable, available or functional as their predecessors. IBM should be embarrassed. Trying to get the z/OS Init and Tuning Reference on the Interweb, and KC is throwing 403: Authentication Failed messages. To quote General Beringer: "After very

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

Tom Marchant wrote: >Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>What if I specify VOL=SER because the catalog is momentarily unavailable but >>I'm desperate to save the data? >Why would the catalog be "momentarily unavailable"? Catalog may be broken or too big to add a new catalog entry. (Or someone initialized

Re: SYS1.BRODCAST

Going back to your original question, I think a reasonable UACC for BRODCAST would be NONE. This is because all "normal access", ie writing and reading, is handled under the covers by the SEND and LISTBC commands. Even with user logs, the likelihood is that the id sending the message is not

Re: Erase on Scratch

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:12:25 +, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >You don't mention what you want to use it for, but with SMS managed datasets >part of the problem was eliminated, because SMS >managed datasets automatically get an EOF. You can't anymore simply

Re: LINKLIST and Steplib

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:36:57 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote: >Regarding Job pack area - Is this something we place the load module in any >dataset or load into a particular memory for the search order to pick ? Job Pack Area is simply the modules that have already been loaded into your address

Re: LINKLIST and Steplib

>First point says about Run time library services - Is there any example >when we make use of this ? This functionality no longer exists in z/OS. >Regarding Job pack area - Is this something we place the load module in any >dataset or load into a particular memory for the search order to pick

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:08:38 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >For an SMS-managed DSN, what if I specify DISP=(NEW), but not CATLG. Does it: >o catalog it regardless? If you specify (NEW,KEEP) for an SMS-managed data set, it is cataloged. >o fail with invalid parameter combination? No. That would

AW: Re: LINKLIST and Steplib

>I have never realized it I had uaed JPA, might be at the address space level ? The JPA is not something you build, or prepare in an way. When a load module is searched for, the system first looks in the current address space to sdee if a usable copy of that load module has already been

Re: Editmacro, am I in VIEW or EDIT?

I found it: "(a,b) = session" (in quotes) works, Kees. > -Original Message- > From: Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: 20 April, 2017 13:49 > To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Editmacro, am I in VIEW or EDIT? > > Thanks, > Kees. > > >

Re: Erase on Scratch

You don't mention what you want to use it for, but with SMS managed datasets part of the problem was eliminated, because SMS managed datasets automatically get an EOF. You can't anymore simply allocate a dataset and start reading the old data on the tracks. Kees. > -Original Message-

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

Logical, practical, thus it will never happen. But one can hope. -- Lionel B. Dyck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent:

Erase on Scratch

I have been looking into the Erase on Scratch capability to erase all extents of a data set but much of my research indicates that: 1. You must set up the data set names individually. 2. It will not erase &Temp data set names unless you: a. Make the &TEMP name a permanent name. b. Map

Re: Editmacro, am I in VIEW or EDIT?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen > Sent: 20 April, 2017 12:35 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Editmacro, am I in VIEW or EDIT? > > (A,B) = SESSION > Benjamin, can you help me again?

Re: LINKLIST and Steplib

Hi Liz I have never realized it I had uaed JPA, might be at the address space level ? On Apr 21, 2017 2:10 PM, "Lizette Koehler" wrote: > Have you reviewed the Init and Tuning manual that was suggested? > > The process of selection for load modules is specific to your

Re: LINKLIST and Steplib

Have you reviewed the Init and Tuning manual that was suggested? The process of selection for load modules is specific to your shop. You should determine when you want processes to use STEPLIBs(for example the compile process could be setup for steplibs to compile programs) Whether production