Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 00:50:54 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >I use this feature. The main problem I have with it (which you eluded to when >you said "Caveat, you need to use full Unix path for the filenames" is that >each time you enter a Unix command it seems to spawn a new Unix shell, which

Re: Using Pseudo Post

Thanks > On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > > If the WAIT bit, x'80', is on, then you need to do a real POST. Merely > turning on x'40' will not get a task out of a wait state. That is what you > are seeing I believe. > > If the x'80' bit is on, then do a

Re: Using Pseudo Post

If the WAIT bit, x'80', is on, then you need to do a real POST. Merely turning on x'40' will not get a task out of a wait state. That is what you are seeing I believe. If the x'80' bit is on, then do a POST, and that needs to be a POST with ASCB. You must use CS so that the 80 does not get

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

I use this feature. The main problem I have with it (which you eluded to when you said "Caveat, you need to use full Unix path for the filenames" is that each time you enter a Unix command it seems to spawn a new Unix shell, which closes as soon as your command is executed. Thus you can't do

Re: Using Pseudo Post

I am using Quick Post Here is the code L R4,RECOV#ECB L R8,RECOV#ECB Get ECB Address L R4,0(,R4)get ecb N R4,=X'3FFF' Turn of wait post

Re: mainframe distribution

Am 19.03.2018 um 17:57 schrieb R.S.: Bernd, I know the installation and know people related to it. Note: your 4381 was replaced with P/390 and after few years mainframe completely switched off. For my knowledge they have never used VSE in production. What they used was ODRA emulator under

Re: Using Pseudo Post

Did you code ASCB= (correctly). You need that even if the ECB is in common. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe Reichman Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 3:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using

Re: Using Pseudo Post

The ECB is in Fixed CSA running under a different Address space for some reason even after posted the task is still not dispatched I know this because I have placed a WTO right after I am running under TESTAUTH and can observe the ECB before with the 80 bit and the RB and after with 40 bit

Re: mainframe distribution

Am 19.03.2018 um 17:07 schrieb Tony Harminc: On 19 March 2018 at 11:45, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Stuttgart and Lodz are partner towns (jumelage in French, don't know the English expression). Often the expressions "twin towns" or "twin cities" are used, which is

Re: Using Pseudo Post

It is not a "Pseudo Post", it is a "Quick Post". It does not "eliminate the requirement to use the CS instruction", as the example clearly shows it using CS. If you have addressability to the ECB, you can use this. If you do not, you cannot. This has nothing to do with swappability (although

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

> If you want a break with 3270, why a Rube Goldberg with line mode. Make the > application an X11 client instead. Except each application running in the environment would need to be modified. The approach I suggested doesn't require any application code to be modified if you don't want/have

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

> To be honest, it was this thread that prompted me to see if anyone had > coerced emacs into talking to z/OS, and this was pretty much the only > thing I found. I thought the whole emacs->z/OS thing seemed feasible > (eg. via tramp or something) albeit potentially a fair amount of work... Both

Re: AW: mainframe distribution

m...@beer.at (Mike Beer) writes: > https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zvse/about/history1970s.html Endicott told me there was 6kbytes available for assist microcode ... I was to identify the highest used code paths in the vm370 kernel for replication in microcode. (standard 370 kernel

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

On 3/19/18, 2:16 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin" wrote: > I suspect there is no longer economic justification for a specialized thin > client. X11 > servers are available very

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 19:19:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >We'd all be better of if SUN's paradigm of the thin client (X11 server) had >caught on. > I have been told that the SunRay thin client was not X11 based, but used a protocol sui generis. My experience confirms this: When I had a

Re: TSO authorized concurrent integrity [was: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell]

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:44:11 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >I do not understand -- How can a second authorized program running >concurrently to an already-running authorized program provide opportunity for >an integrity threat? Or am I just not clever (or evil) enough to conceive of >a

Re: mainframe distribution

Strange, it doesn't describe ECPS:VSE or the transition from DOS/VS to DOS/VSE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Beer Sent: Monday,

AW: mainframe distribution

https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zvse/about/history1970s.html more on VSE & BB (Boeblingen) https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/38b9aea1-bdad-4dde-9984-fd18f65bb557/entry/Kein_Alter_49_Jahre_z_VSE?lang=en Best regards Mike -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe

Re: VTOC reporting

Another option. If you have CA products - like CA1, OPS/MVS, TLMS, PDSMAN, etc... You can download the GMI (SRM-LIGHT) product no change. Then use it to do the analysis. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >

Re: mainframe distribution

W dniu 2018-03-19 o 16:45, Bernd Oppolzer pisze: Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.: W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze: I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe market size:     - number of sites     - vse vs zos     - continental distribution    

Re: FW: SMPE receive order stuck

Thanks John. I appreciate you checking into it. Sadly, too often Monday mornings suffer it seems... _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 

Re: Reason for PDS corrupted

FETCH doesn't use an access method. A bad block size will cause an I/O error for a BSAM, BPAM or QSAM DCB, but that wouldn't cause an S106. OTOH, if the size in a control record doesn't match the size of the following text block then that's all she wrote. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

That reflect my original reaction to MVS-OE; it looked as though IBM dealt with everything required for certification and ignored high usage facility that didn't affect certification. Tolls that every Unix specialist expects aren't there. Things are better now, but there's still a lot missing.

Re: Problem with dataset authorization

Thanks List, The problem was that my dataset was not a fully qualified generic profile (no (G) when I did a LISTDSD. So I deleted the dataset and defined it as a generic profile and now my developers are able to access it without any problems. Thanks, Ron McCabe Mutual of Enumclaw

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

"emacs is a wonderful operating system. All that is missing is a decent editor." Let the vi vs emacs wars begin ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: mainframe distribution

Its old. Very old. May i suggest that oeople drom different countries just spexify the numbers with no xlient names. Like i did: Israel Ibm zos 15 Ibm vse 10 As400 > 50 Fujitso 0 Itschak בתאריך 19 במרץ 2018 18:09,‏ "Porowski, Kenneth" כתב: >

Re: VTOC reporting

For VTOC / dataset reporting, consider a combination of IBM IDCAMS/DCOLLECT and DFSORT/ICETOOL (for report formatting) -- see the IBM DFSORT website for the sample(s) available. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: mainframe distribution

http://mainframes.wikidot.com/ No idea of the accuracy but it was recently updated. This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, “CIT”), and are

Re: mainframe distribution

On 19 March 2018 at 11:45, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > Stuttgart and Lodz are partner towns (jumelage in French, > don't know the English expression). Often the expressions "twin towns" or "twin cities" are used, which is exactly translatable with the French term. But

Re: FW: SMPE receive order stuck

I'm told we had an ISP connection issue (not sure on which side) that's resolved now. When I asked about it after seeing your post, they already knew and they were on it. Jousma, David wrote: FYI...I sent the following email to IBM ShopZ support. Hopefully they find the problem... Anyone

Re: mainframe distribution

Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.: W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze: I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe market size:     - number of sites     - vse vs zos     - continental distribution     - sectiors IBM? I'm pretty sure IBM is not

Re: VTOC reporting

CBT Tape is a good option, either File 112, which is a VTOC TSO command, File 343 VTOCLIST, for batch. They should be easy to try and see if one format is better than the other for what you want. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer III UF Information Technology East Campus P.O. Box 112050

VTOC reporting

We are in the process of upgrading an older OS/390 system. During a review, it was identified that we are using IBM DITTO for just one job and management has asked me to eliminate it if possible. It is the process which lists the VTOC for all volumes and stores the report off-site. The

Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

> If you want a break with 3270, why a Rube Goldberg with line mode. Make the > application an X11 client instead. > > We'd all be better of if SUN's paradigm of the thin client (X11 server) had > caught on. Um, well, maybe. You CAN run X11 clients on z/OS. But my personal experience is that

Re: mainframe distribution

W dniu 2018-03-19 o 12:41, Steve Horein pisze: Always an interesting question, but how useful/practical is the answer? Curiosity? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać

FW: SMPE receive order stuck

FYI...I sent the following email to IBM ShopZ support. Hopefully they find the problem... Anyone else seeing this behavior this morning? _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com

Re: mainframe distribution

Always an interesting question, but how useful/practical is the answer? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: mainframe distribution

z/OS sites - approx. 50, but majority is small. Only 5 sites above 1000 MIPS. (I know all of them, worked somehow for significant part of them) AS/400 aka System i -  I have no idea. I know few installations, but I don't know what is the part of whole picture. People say, in early 2000's the

Re: Reason for PDS corrupted

Peter wrote: >One of our loadlib dataset got corrupted and I get a message as An I/O error >was encountered reading the first record requested while trying to browse the >module. While I don't see any related message in syslog during this time. Please post the full message(s). >Also the

Re: mainframe distribution

I know i am not the first to ask... becoming an IBMer is not an option... ITschak בתאריך 19 במרץ 2018 12:51,‏ "Elardus Engelbrecht" < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> כתב: > ITschak Mugzach wrote: > > >How about z/os sites? As/400 sites? I am sure 3rd party vendors has the > information, at

Re: mainframe distribution

ITschak Mugzach wrote: >How about z/os sites? As/400 sites? I am sure 3rd party vendors has the >information, at least partially. >Un Israel there are about 10 VSE sites and 15 z/os. AS/400 is much more >popular. It could be easier if you could try obtaining the formula of coca-cola or KFC

Re: Reason for PDS corrupted

It used to be when you saw something like this that the library was in the linklist so the deb for that library was obtained at IPL TIME. If during the course of the day a linkedit is done and the updated module went into the new extent and that extent is not in the original deb and you get the

Re: mainframe distribution

Thanks. How about z/os sites? As/400 sites? I am sure 3rd party vendors has the information, at least partially. Un Israel there are about 10 VSE sites and 15 z/os. AS/400 is much more popular. ITschak On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:52 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu

Re: mainframe distribution

W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze: I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe market size: - number of sites - vse vs zos - continental distribution - sectiors IBM? I'm pretty sure IBM is not wiling to share this information. Maybe