Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 04:25:18 +, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > >In Java you have other issues, every programming lanuaages has pluses and >minuses.. > >Indeed they do - without them, adding and subtracting would become quite >difficult > What about COBOL ADD ... GIVING ... ... and LISP? Or

Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread Chris Hoelscher
In Java you have other issues, every programming languages has pluses and minuses.. Indeed they do - without them, adding and subtracting would become quite difficult The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDEN

Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread scott Ford
In Java you have other issues, every programming languages has pluses and minuses.. The nature of what we do.. Scott On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:02 PM Joseph Reichman wrote: > This type coding z/os internals must make up about 1% of software > development > > I’m quite sure that for Java there is

Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread Joseph Reichman
This type coding z/os internals must make up about 1% of software development I’m quite sure that for Java there isn’t this type of problem > On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > There are a large number of parts to make sure that things are done the right > way, and t

Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Absolutely agree. Just not of the PC-ss / SRB-to-other-AS / complete-and-sophisticated-error-recovery kind of code, that I remember seeing or hearing about. Not that it couldn't already be there and I just missed seeing it. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

PDSE in LNKLST (Was: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS...)

2018-11-13 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 11/13/2018 2:51 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: This point was discussed recently. The restriction as stated applies to LPA list. Link list has a number of IBM-supplied PDSE libraries specified in PROGxx. Indeed! My LNKLST display shows 29 IBM-delivered program object libraries. We have some o

Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.

2018-11-13 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
This point was discussed recently. The restriction as stated applies to LPA list. Link list has a number of IBM-supplied PDSE libraries specified in PROGxx. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 62

Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.

2018-11-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
The last I looked you couldn't have PDSE in the initial link list, although you could add it dynamically. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-r

Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
While I won't claim that all of the code in the CBT tape is good, there is certainly code there worth reading. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Monday,

Re: ECSA tuning clarification

2018-11-13 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
If you mean in relation to the private area? Any virtual storage report or display will tell you. How it works: The line between Common and Private is on MB boundary. Common is LPA+SQA+CSA, rounded to 1 MB. What is left is Private. CSA is here defined in IEASYSxx as 3300K. This is the minimum of

Re: ECSA tuning clarification

2018-11-13 Thread Peter
Is there any smf record that I can look into to forecast on how much I can increase ? Is there any factor like hardware and number of applications or software ? On Tue 13 Nov, 2018, 1:20 PM Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: > Mind the jumps in private area. A little le

Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available?

2018-11-13 Thread Mike Kerford-Byrnes
Whilst they may be a trifle dated, the Xephon MVS Update publications - available on CBTTAPE - did hold a lot of coding examples covering many aspects of the MVS system. In the past, I have used them to helpful effect. The major issue I encountered was the absence of an index covering all the sepa

Re: ECSA tuning clarification

2018-11-13 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Mind the jumps in private area. A little less CSA/SQA might give you 1 MB more private area, a little more can cost you 1 MB. SQA can overflow to CSA, so a higher usage is allowable, since it can still handle spikes. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mail

Re: Why are sophisticated system-level coding examples not available? [was: RE: Recommended method for accessing secondary access spaces]

2018-11-13 Thread Brian Westerman
While I really wish IBM really would have some better examples than what is in SAMPLIB and SHASSRCE, you really can learn most of what you will need from manuals and the rest of it is (unfortunately for me) trial and error. When you are developing Systems programming code, if you son'e have an

Re: ECSA tuning clarification

2018-11-13 Thread Brian Westerman
I try to keep it at 25% for ECSA and ESQA. There is no reason to run short on it. You can monitor it but only once in a great while do I need to fiddle with the settings for them, and even then it's normally because I installed (or uninstalled) something . Brian