Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Had pretty much the same answer but with less polished words, so.. happy that you've got the same points across in a better manner than I was about to šŸ˜Š ā€“ Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: 07 Januar

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Ken Bloom
I ran this by someone who really knows what he is doing concerning upgrades and here is what he recommended: > He can't run 1.12 on the new z14s, and he doesn't want to even think about > all the patching for 1.13 or 2.1. His best bet is to go to 2.2 on his z10, > then put the z14s patches on

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM offered extended support for z/OS 1.12 through September 30, 2017, for a fee. That end date was "close enough" to miss the first shipments of the first IBM z14 machines. To my knowledge IBM never did the work to make z/OS 1.12 tolerate the IBM z14 machines, so if that particular combination wor

Re: Generic query on Region allocation failure

2019-01-07 Thread Jake Anderson
Apology for being vague IEF085I REGION NOT AVAILABLE ERROR CODE = 20 IEF187I NJJJ FAILED - SYSTEM ERROR IN INITIATOR IEF472I NJJJ NJJJ - COMPLETION CODE - SYSTEM = 822 USER= 0, REASON = 0 On Tue 8 Jan, 2019, 8:20 AM Lizette Koehler As always, it is helpful to post the compl

Re: Generic query on Region allocation failure

2019-01-07 Thread Jake Anderson
Apology for being vague IEF085I REGION NOT AVAILABLE ERROR CODE = 20 IEF187I NJJJ FAILED - SYSTEM ERROR IN INITIATOR IEF472I NJJJ On Tue 8 Jan, 2019, 8:20 AM Lizette Koehler As always, it is helpful to post the complete error message it received > > Was it an S878 > > Was it an S40d? if

Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Michael Stein
> I'm trying to write a copy program for Source code or Load Data from > one Pds to Another. > > The Source Code part seems to be working...no issues. > > The Load library code however, I cant seem to figure out how PDS2TTRT > is populated. Are you writing a general PDS copy program or a program w

Re: Generic query on Region allocation failure

2019-01-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
As always, it is helpful to post the complete error message it received Was it an S878 Was it an S40d? if yes, what is the sub codes? Did you put on any recent maintenance? Did you increase the number of devices in your IO GEN (Check if HSA has grown) How much physical memory did you have on z

Generic query on Region allocation failure

2019-01-07 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi After we have moved from z114 to z14. Some of our database(ISVs database product) started task failed with region allocation.( When I kept 5m), but after increasing the region size it came up . Not sure if z14 requires some task to move above the line ? Could someone please shed some light on

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread David Spiegel
... and source for JES2. On 2019-01-07 22:39, scott Ford wrote: > Matt, > > Yep I remembered the days we had source for CICS modules and VM. > Scott > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:34 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > >> You are correct David, thanks. I was the proud recipient of a kidney >> stone Sunday n

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread scott Ford
Matt, Yep I remembered the days we had source for CICS modules and VM. Scott On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:34 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > You are correct David, thanks. I was the proud recipient of a kidney > stone Sunday night so my response is a bit delayed. > > It looks like most of the questions

Re: Mainframe brains-slurper sues IBM for 'age discrim', calls Ginny and biz 'morally bankrupt' . The Register

2019-01-07 Thread Matt Hogstrom
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Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Hochee
Hi Tom, If you want to roll your own as a learning exercise, the following IBM publications are quite good... http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt3d410.pdf http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt3d510.pdf CBT content is of course another source. HTH, Mike ___

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Matt Hogstrom
You are correct David, thanks. I was the proud recipient of a kidney stone Sunday night so my response is a bit delayed. It looks like most of the questions / comments were answered. If you want further information please let me know and Iā€™ll provide the best info I can. I recall someone made

Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
From what I see on PDSE, field PDS2TTRT is always low values. So, if that holds true, PDSE wont be an issue. Program will just need to determine if library is PDS or PDSEI can do that. Now for a PDS, I need to figure out how to populate it. Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- Fro

Re: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue

2019-01-07 Thread Peter Relson
I find it astonishing that in the enormous example posted, there is not even the code that shows setting up the ECB_LIST. Haven't previous posts, weeks ago, in response to this thread (or a precursor) that talked about problems getting the modify command to work talked about things missing from

Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
I understand IBM supplies IEBCOPY. I havenā€™t tried slaying the PDSE dragon yetjust regular PDS for now. I was hoping it wasnā€™t classified info. It seems that CBT PDS calculates this but, it's doing some EXCP's...I donā€™t understand what its trying to do. I've learned a lot from writing my o

Re: Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 22:55:32 +, Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) wrote: >I'm trying to write a copy program for Source code or Load Data from one Pds >to Another. > Doesn't IBM already supply one? >The Source Code part seems to be working...no issues. >The Load library code however, I cant seem to

Pds Copy for Load Lib Members

2019-01-07 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
I'm trying to write a copy program for Source code or Load Data from one Pds to Another. The Source Code part seems to be working...no issues. The Load library code however, I cant seem to figure out how PDS2TTRT is populated. Here is an example: - DSN=ISPF..LINKLIB,VOL=SER=DVL010 MEM=PDS$

Fwd: Mainframe brains-slurper sues IBM for 'age discrim', calls Ginny and biz 'morally bankrupt' . The Register

2019-01-07 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/07/ibm_age_discrimination_lawsuit/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread scott Ford
Skip you got to laugh, keeps your sanity.. On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:06 PM Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > I'd relegate LIH-NUKS vs. LEE-NUKS to a dialectal squabble. The > ear-burning dichotomy for me involves LYE-NUKS. In the U.S., that > pronunciation harks to the Linus of Peanuts. Great for histori

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I'd relegate LIH-NUKS vs. LEE-NUKS to a dialectal squabble. The ear-burning dichotomy for me involves LYE-NUKS. In the U.S., that pronunciation harks to the Linus of Peanuts. Great for historic American cartooning, not so much for modern international technology. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern

SASN=NEW on ETDEF macro

2019-01-07 Thread esst...@juno.com
.I'm experiencing an issue which I don't understand. . I have a small Stacking Space Switching PC Service Routine, its Entry Table Definition (ETDEF) has SASN=Old Specified. . It is my understanding - SASN specifies whether the stacking PC routine wi

Re: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue

2019-01-07 Thread Joseph Reichman
The code bypassed the 1,000 limit size I had no choice but to chop it up if you give me an e-mail I'll attach the program/code -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 3:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue

2019-01-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 15:29, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Second, MODIFY is not the only type of CIB, If the COMM ECB is posted then > you need to process and delete the CIB, regardless of > type, and regardless of whether you recognize the text of a MODIFY. The types > I would expect to see are STA

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Phil Smith III
Jesse Robinson wrote: > Stepping aside from what Zowe the architecture consists of, could we at least >agree up front how to say it? (The confusion over 'Linux' went on way too >long.) Not to be confused with http://www.linex.com/ ! I distinctly rememberā€”at least 15 years ago, possibly mo

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Joe Monk
Probably not if you dont already have a support contract. BUT - You could LPAR your current machine, install z/os like 2.1 or so , upgrade then move and upgrade again. Joe On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:57 PM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > Is z/OS v1.13 still orde

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Is z/OS v1.13 still orderable from IBM? That might be a path, if we can get the code base with all the necessary features. Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 2:54 PM To: I

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Joe Monk
I dont see why he couldnt install z/OS 1.13 on the old box, then move that to the new box and upgrade... Joe On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 1/7/2019 5:47 AM, Edgington, Jerry wrote: > > Our current situation is, we have zBC10 running z/OS v1.12. We want to > upgrade everyt

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Ed, Yes, I believe we can do have the new z14 installed and connected to the same DASD. Jerry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: R

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/7/2019 5:47 AM, Edgington, Jerry wrote: Our current situation is, we have zBC10 running z/OS v1.12. We want to upgrade everything to current, including z/OS and hardware. I understand we can't get support for either z/OS or zBC12, but I am looking for options and if anyone has successfu

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Surely local non-SNS 3270 displays can be used for both console and TSO terminals. I wonder about OSA, though. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Richards, Robert B. <01c91f408b

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Just watched the video "Zowe Overview" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX20ZMRoTtk). Looks promising! I notice the demo runs from a Mac, and I believe some of the commands are run from the Mac terminal shell. Is there any dependency on a Unix-like shell on the client? Or does it work just

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread scott Ford
All good points in this discussion. My problem is convincing Management that Mainframe Technology is still good and current, etc., etc., Scott On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Jerry Whitteridge wrote: > There are times I really wish for a like button > > Jerry Whitteridge > Delivery Manager / Ma

Re: How to delay a healthcheck? [EXTERNAL]

2019-01-07 Thread ITschak Mugzach
another option to delay the check is to modify it's status to disabled and later on to enable it. Most checks are loaded dynamically using an exit on Health Checker startup. I use the policy statement to control when the check will run (i am loading hundreds of them using an exit), but seen others

Re: Defining a new TS7760

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
Of course it's not black magic, but if you mismatch the ID's you won't be able to use it. And there is not check in HCD or during activation. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-01-07 oĀ 11:55, Gadi Ben-Avi pisze: I found the example in the Redbook. It's not that complicated. Gad

Re: How to delay a healthcheck? [EXTERNAL]

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
My log: 12:39:00.24Ā  0290Ā  IEE252I MEMBER IEASYS00 FOUND 12:39:10.20Ā  0290Ā  HZS0100I IPL-TIME START OF IBM HEALTH CHECKER 12:39:10.20Ā  0290Ā  HZS0115I IPL-TIME START OF HZSPROC IS COMPLETE 12:39:21.31 STC00520 0090 *HZS0011E READING THE HZSPDATA DATA SE

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
There are times I really wish for a like button Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM Services IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/04/2019 11:47:33 PM: > From: Tom Conley > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: How to delay a healthcheck? [EXTERNAL]

2019-01-07 Thread Feller, Paul
Radoslaw, I think that actual health check stuff does not happen until later. Look for message HZS0103I, which indicates when the health check started task has completed its start up. This still may not answer why you get the alert. Below are sample messages from two of our lpars that got IPLe

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Schwab
One option is to bring up the new z/OS on the z14 and restore the applications and test and recompile as needed then freeze the data and run from the new system. On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:48 AM Edgington, Jerry wrote: > > Thanks everyone. > > Our current situation is, we have zBC10 running z/OS v1

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Thank you very much. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.12 question Jerry, In that scenario I would do the following: Install z

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
Jerry, In that scenario I would do the following: Install z/OS 2.3 using COD. That means you first install COD and then perform the installation of z/OS. Or I would try to use ServerPac Installation Dialog on z/OS 1.12. At least one problem *will* happen: ZFS >4GB, but you can address it by us

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread Allan Staller
I would check sys1.samplib. As many other have stated there are most likely several examples on the CBTTAPE and elsewhere. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 5:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: USS10MSG s

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread David Crayford
I can't speak for Matt but... On 7/01/2019 2:06 pm, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Matt, Thanks for the extended and detailed response. There are many of us out here who are still wondering what this project really is. First, a caution: Please, please define your acronyms the first time you use

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
OK, beat me ;-) I missed the "z/OS" part in the statement. Silly me. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-01-07 oĀ 14:41, Richards, Robert B. pisze: I must have misinterpreted the following then: " If not, any ideas of how to get z/OS *and* hardware upgrade to current." -Or

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Thanks everyone. Our current situation is, we have zBC10 running z/OS v1.12. We want to upgrade everything to current, including z/OS and hardware. I understand we can't get support for either z/OS or zBC12, but I am looking for options and if anyone has successfully done this type of upgrade

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I must have misinterpreted the following then: " If not, any ideas of how to get z/OS *and* hardware upgrade to current." -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Joe Monk
z/OS 1.12 is not supported on a z14. So, his only choice is to upgrade z/OS if he wants to run a z14. Joe On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:26 AM R.S. wrote: > IMHO the COD has nothing to do here. > Jerry wrote about mahcine change (upgrade) , not OS upgrade. > > Jerry, > Your system is out of service.

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Wawiorko
ISTINCNO is the USS table for operator commands and VTAM messages IST* / IVT* - see comment 'COMMAND & MESSAGE TABLE'. It is not for LUs/TN3270 users with USSMSG10. USSMSGnn are in a different form of USS table with sample ISTINCDT. In my previous email I forgot to mention that the sample table

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread David Crayford
I think there's a lot more to it then just a new GUI. The engine behind Zowe is an API layer which will enable vendors and customers to integrate tools. The Zowe GUI is modern web tech using Angular/React and other cutting edge technologies so everything will run in a browser or mobile devices.

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
IMHO the COD has nothing to do here. Jerry wrote about mahcine change (upgrade) , not OS upgrade. Jerry, Your system is out of service. That means you won't be able to get *for free* any PTFs released after EOS date. That means your system may not recognize z14 correctly. It does NOT mean it wo

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Really good points and I agree. 3270 will never go away and like most power users they will use the tool that makes them the most effective. The desktop serves as a means to engage people with familiar workflows and behavior as well as providing better visualization than you can achieve with

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread Stone, Marshall
Sample USS table in - SYS1.SAMPLIB(ISTINCNO) MS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 5:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: USS10MSG source DDDEFS to start wi

GSE UK - Large Systems 2019 Plans

2019-01-07 Thread Leanne Wilson
Happy New Year to all! 2019 is proving to be an exciting year for the GSE and for the individual working groups. 2018 saw the introduction of virtual sessions into the Large Systems group, these were a great success and we aim to continue these into 2019 allowing us to bring you content from all

Re: z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=an&subtype=ca&appname=gpateam&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS218-458 IBM Customized Offerings Driver V3.1, a prebuilt, stand-alone driving system to meet IBM z/OS installation requirements, has been updated. The IBM(r) Customized Offerings

z/OS 1.12 question

2019-01-07 Thread Edgington, Jerry
As anyone upgraded a z/OS 1.12 from zBC10 to z14, directly? If so, what issues or gothas were there? Anything to look at for? If not, any ideas of how to get z/OS and hardware upgrade to current. Thanks, Jerry Edgington -- For

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Wawiorko
To find the USS table name(s) at your installation you need to look in your tn3270 profile for Telnet or in VTAMLST if you have SNA devices. For tn3270 look in the BEGINVTAM block for the USSTCP statement. For VTAM look at the LU USSTAB option or perhaps at GROUP/LINE/PU for sift-down. For VTA

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
What DDDEF query can help user to find source for USS10MSG? Excuse me, but there are very few VTAM libraries in the system (and many elements in shared libraries). A source of USS10MSG or any other thing may be found in one of VTAM libraries, in a SAMPLIB or maybe other library I'm not aware of

Re: Defining a new TS7760

2019-01-07 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I found the example in the Redbook. It's not that complicated. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Defining a new TS7760 I think it is documented in a Redbook, but

Re: How to delay a healthcheck? [EXTERNAL]

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
Kevin, It is z13, so HIPERDISPATCH=YES should be default. However I have coded HIPERDISPATCH=YES in IEAOPT00 member, just to solve HealthCheck alert. And that's why I found the check is run before HIPERDISPATCH=YES is in effect. Regarding your questions: - it's z13 machine - IRA860I is the on

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread Edward Finnell
DDDEFS to start with. In a message dated 1/7/2019 4:28:21 AM Central Standard Time, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl writes: About what? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lis

Re: Defining a new TS7760

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
I think it is documented in a Redbook, but the part you called easy can be tricky. For tape devicesĀ  you should provide LIBPORT ID and LIBRARY ID. LIBRARY ID is defined by CE, but it can be also "composite ID" for grid configurations. LIBPORT ID is taken from the table. Finally you add the devi

Re: USS10MSG source

2019-01-07 Thread R.S.
About what? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-01-06 oĀ 20:37, Edward Finnell pisze: Or ask SMP/E? In a message dated 1/6/2019 1:35:46 PM Central Standard Time, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl writes: Maybe you mean SYS1.SISTMAC1. --

Re: Zowe?

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Schwab
Last video might be a demo. Several install videos. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-WTXQQtz2m5iTflJLK59aw/videos On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:06 AM Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > > Matt, > > Thanks for the extended and detailed response. There are many of us out here > who are still wondering