Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

As we are dealing with details and detailed terminology: 'nonstandard' according to whom? Not to the PDS standards, only to JCL and ISPF standards. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: 03 December

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

Why not? Just like you can put any membername in a PDS with STOW, you can put any dsname in a catalog with the correct utilities, like CAMLIST etc. I remember such a dsname, which the user could not delete with ISPF, because of the syntax checking. But it did make its way into the catalog.

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

Jeez Gil, There is nothing restrictive to 'hexadecimal', only to 'any' or 'some'. Between quotes you can put *any* hex char in a dsname, without quotes you can use only the *alphanumeric* hex chars. (And you *can* of course use all 256, if you accept JCL errors). Kees. On Tue, 3 Dec 2019

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Re: AUTHPGM in IKJTSOxx

Jesse / Skip, This is actually defined as being a requirement in "DFSMS Access Method Services Commands" SC23-6846-30. See Page 6, or just search for AUTHCMD and you will quickly find it. It states the following, "To use IDCAMS and some of its parameters from TSO/E, your system programmer

Re: OOCoD experiences?

I'm sure if there were ways to use this facility illegally Timothy would not describe them on this forum! On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 8:05 AM Tony Harminc wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 04:14, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > > > > There's also now Instant Recovery on IBM z15 machines, with z/OS System >

Re: AUTHPGM in IKJTSOxx

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 00:39:58 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >I thought I was done with this thread, but today a new gotcha popped up. On >one system, we ran out of local page space. We could log on (TSO) but could >not start any task or submit any job. To avoid IPL, we needed to create

Re: AUTHPGM in IKJTSOxx

I thought I was done with this thread, but today a new gotcha popped up. On one system, we ran out of local page space. We could log on (TSO) but could not start any task or submit any job. To avoid IPL, we needed to create another local page data set. Back in the halcyon days, if you're old

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

Is StarTools also case insensitive? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 7:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COPYING PDS

Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

Don't rub it in. I wish that IBM would port XEDIT to TSO, or enhance ISPF to provide, e.g., SET PENDING, control files. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lloyd Fuller Sent:

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

STOW has always allowed lower case characters in a member name. If you're using QSAM, READJFCB and OPENJ are your friends. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent:

Re: WTO

Perhaps, but it certainly wasn't in the message chain I was responding to. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Wayne Driscoll Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:52 AM To:

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

ITYM that they use to support it. I was using hyphen (-) as a wild card characters in various RYO utilities and was not a happy camper when IBM disallowed it. I might have considered it reasonable if IBM had allowed a PDS as a FDS in a GDG, but since they didn't there was no possibility of

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

3278? We had dual case on our 3277 displays. Of course, it was an RPQ. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:36 PM To:

Re: zgit (was: COPYING PDS ...)

I would expect it to support Unix files in either HFS or ZFS, but not to support HFS or ZFS datasets. Would you expect rm in Linux to support deleting an ext4 file system? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

zigi - was RE: zgit (was: COPYING PDS ...)

zigi only supports source code files which are z/OS PS or PDS or an OMVS file. It doesn't support binary (at this time). The repository is in your OMVS environment so it is probably (hopefully) in a zfs. Hope this helps. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more

zgit (was: COPYING PDS ...)

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 12:47:14 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >... At least with OMVS you can have mixed case directories and file names - >and OEdit/OBrowse work with them - even ISPF Browse/Edit/View will. Then there >is OSHELL and the better UDList (3.17). Not much else in native ISPF supports

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

PDSE's support member generations but you don't see IBM's ISPF, utilities, JCL, etc. supporting them. Thinking that when one part of IBM does something that another part will take advantage may have worked 30 years ago but this isn't the IBM that we grew up with. And the PDS command is open

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

That's the point. z/OS PDS(E) *does* already support mixed-case member names. Silly for a utility to defeat their usage. If IBM found the capability useful for SMP, certainly others might find the capability useful as well. Silly for JCL to defeat their usage too, but that's a different thread.

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

While mixed case dataset names, mixed case member names, etc. would be nice, that would require a major update to z/OS that I don't see IBM doing. At least with OMVS you can have mixed case directories and file names - and OEdit/OBrowse work with them - even ISPF Browse/Edit/View will. Then

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

> This shows the folly of designing a user interface to make a case-sensitive > file system appear to be case insensitive. Agreed! Make it an option in the utility if you wish. Heck, make folding the default if you wish, but give @Gil and others the option of exploiting the full power of PDS.

Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 09:44:11 -0500, Lloyd Fuller wrote: >Yes.  Use XEDIT and CMSUPDTE. They work well, but are VM only, > Sigh. ISRSUPC PARM=UPDCMS8 will generate usable CMSUPDTE diffs if the OLD file has valid sequence numbers. ISRSUPC PARM=UPDMVS8 requires that both OLD and NEW have valid

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 09:44:18 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: >I'm not very active in the IBM-MAIN group; normally I have a rule in Outlook >that moves its emails to a folder, where I may look at it or may not. But >this one got to my In box somehow, and caught my attention. How is it >possible to

Re: ISPF dialog test clarification

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, at 07:40, Peter wrote: > I have figured out that dialog test can help me to verify changes done in a > panel and i was able to see it. What would the other functions within > dialog test that can also simulate it doesn't "simulate" it.It executes it. Dialog test allows

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, at 10:47, Lionel B Dyck wrote: > I'm not aware standard services allow mixed case member names - but as > far as I know PDS only works with IBM standard and I was not able, > using PDS to create a member name with lower case. SMP/E's various storage PDSs (eg the MTS) used

Re: WTO

Yes sir ..he sure did On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:53 AM Wayne Driscoll wrote: > > And he later sent out a mea culpa e-mail correcting himself. > > Wayne Driscoll > Rocket Software > Note - All opinions are strictly my own. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

>>How is it possible to have a lower-case character in a PDS member name? Bob, Here is an example of Creating A Nonstandard member name in a PDS https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad400/pdsnsam.htm Thanks Kolusu

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

PDS & PDSE per se have always supported any 8 bytes as member names with the exception of x''. The name restrictions imposed by JCL, etc. are their own thing, for their own reasons. Anyone capable of writing BPAM code could use or abuse this however it suits them. As previously

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

And if you use quotes, the dataset name is not cataloged and you must include the volser. On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 8:43 AM Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: > > Well I have tried all sorts of settings for that but I cannot get it to work. > If you place the entire DSNAME and member including

Re: WTO

And he later sent out a mea culpa e-mail correcting himself. Wayne Driscoll Rocket Software Note - All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: WTO

Peter, To err is human, forgive divine, couldn’t resist it. I remember requesting ours. Scott On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Gord Tomlin wrote: > On 2019-11-28 21:28, Peter Relson wrote: > > I meant ECVTCTBL as the pointer to the 4-byte slots (not CVTCTBL) and > > ECVTCTB2 as the pointer to

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Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

Yes.  Use XEDIT and CMSUPDTE. They work well, but are VM only, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS? Lionel, Many years ago

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

I'm not very active in the IBM-MAIN group; normally I have a rule in Outlook that moves its emails to a folder, where I may look at it or may not. But this one got to my In box somehow, and caught my attention. How is it possible to have a lower-case character in a PDS member name? And even

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

Well I have tried all sorts of settings for that but I cannot get it to work. If you place the entire DSNAME and member including brackets, then the system looks for a DSCB matching it. If you just place the member in quotes then you get a JCL error. So I don't think JCL will support it.

Re: Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

Lionel, Many years ago we developed a change management tool for an Israeli client that ued CA datacom based on SCLM. We used to perform merge by comparing the two versions (Ispf SUPERC). When configured it is a smart tool that tels you the location, if it is new line or update inline, etc. Try

Merge Tool for git for z/OS?

What is available to be used for the mergetool for git on z/OS? Thanks I've looked using google/bing without success. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you

Re: WTO

On 2019-11-28 21:28, Peter Relson wrote: I meant ECVTCTBL as the pointer to the 4-byte slots (not CVTCTBL) and ECVTCTB2 as the pointer to the 8-byte slots (not ECVTCTBL). We arranged a slot in ECVTCTBL with you many years ago, but we never heard about ECVTCTB2. Do we automatically have the same

Re: WTO

Regarding CVTCTBL: I already confessed my error and corrected it in a post subsequent to when I posted that error. The laws of physics make it kind of unlikely that one would be able to post a fix to an append before the post of the append with the error. Sometimes it is just necessary to hope

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

In JCL you can put any hexadecimal character in a dsname if you enter it between quotes. Never tried it for PDS membernames, but I suppose it will work too. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lennie

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

You can store non-standard member names in PDS datasets using STOW macros. IBM used to do this in the forerunner of SMP/E called SMP. They used large PDSs with member names that were unprintable hex characters. I have not found a way to reference member names that are not upper-case printable

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

I'm not aware standard services allow mixed case member names - but as far as I know PDS only works with IBM standard and I was not able, using PDS to create a member name with lower case. Get it and try it - it's free. So kick the tires and see if it does what you want. Lionel B. Dyck <