Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-15 Thread John Dravnieks
On z/OS 2.2 or later, the result from STFLE is stored in the PSA at offset 200 (X'C8') - look at IHAPSAE field name FLCEFACILITIESLIST (and this is a PI field) Kind regards John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Routine using TIMEUSED called Statically gets different results

2023-03-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 14:48, Chris P Fried < 04a1f5bf8721-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Regarding: > > AGAIN TIMEUSED ... > JNZ Again > > Versus > AGAIN TIMEUSED .. > CFI R15,8 > BE AGAIN > > > I used CFI because it is an immediate instruction.That

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Mike Schwab
LRECL=125 TESTBL DCX'0081' 4 + sum of record lengths = 129 TESTRL DCX'007D' 4 + Data length = 125 TESTCC DC X'40' TESTDATA DC CL120'+1+2+3+4+5X '+6+7+8+9+A+B+C' On Wed, Mar

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 3/15/23 18:38:33, Seymour J Metz wrote: The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW. ITYM BDW DS0H DCY(*-SOF)Y(SOF-*) DCH'0' DCY(*-SOF)Y(SOF-*) DCH'0' DCC' 'C'1Skip to

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Warren Brown
Thanks On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 09:15:59 PM EDT, Andrew Rowley wrote: On 16/03/2023 12:01 pm, Warren Brown wrote: >  Andrew, I have been out for a while.  Is there a replacement for SMPE ? > Warren There have always been ways to deliver software without using SMP/E e.g.

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 16/03/2023 12:01 pm, Warren Brown wrote: Andrew, I have been out for a while.  Is there a replacement for SMPE ? Warren There have always been ways to deliver software without using SMP/E e.g. datasets dumped to tape. As people have noted, you can also deliver what is effectively a full

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Mike Schwab
> TESTMESS DCX'0005000540F1F2F3F4' * Corrected to: TESTMESS DC X'000D000940F1F2F3F4' TESTBL DCX'000D' 4 + sum of record lengths TEDTRL DCX'0009' 4 + Data length = 9 TESTDATA DC X'40F1F2F3F4' C'b1234' so length = 5 On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 6:23 PM Joseph

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Warren Brown
Andrew, I have been out for a while.  Is there a replacement for SMPE ? Warren On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 06:15:29 PM EDT, Andrew Rowley wrote: On 15/03/2023 8:33 am, Jay Maynard wrote: > That's because SMP/E and its power are only truly present in the z/OS and > predecessors

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thought only RDW was in the upper half it includes 4 bytes for the BDW Thank you I’ll try it out > On Mar 15, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW. > > BDW DS0H > DCY(*-SOF) > DCH'0' > DC

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW. BDW DS0H DCY(*-SOF) DCH'0' DCY(*-SOF) DCH'0' DCC' ' SOF EQU * From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph

Re: Amode 64 JSON library?

2023-03-15 Thread David Crayford
On 14/3/23 15:00, Robin Atwood wrote: @David I take your point but I fear my management won't see it that way, reinventing the wheel and all that. I can relate to that. Our products get branded and sold by IBM. Back in the day they had a no open source policy and we needed to pass a

Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I have been abending for 2 days doing different things to write abend messages snaps dataset so first let me post the dcb DRDMPDD DCB DDNAME=DBGRDUMP,DSORG=PS,RECFM=VBA,MACRF=(W),BLKSIZE=882X ,LRECL=125,EXLST=*-* The exlst is populated before open with JFCB

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 16/03/2023 9:33 am, Ed Jaffe wrote: Not true. It simply means if you change the (non-fixed) interface, you must re-issue all affected components. OK yes... I did say that you could change the interface with corresponding pre and co-reqs. And if you just want to change one of the

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/15/2023 3:15 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote: The problem with individual fixes rather than full replacement is that it means the interface for every individually replaceable component is fixed. Not true. It simply means if you change the (non-fixed) interface, you must re-issue all affected

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 15/03/2023 8:33 am, Jay Maynard wrote: That's because SMP/E and its power are only truly present in the z/OS and predecessors world. Everyone else thinks of applying maintenance as a matter of replacing the entire product, instead of individual fixes that are automatically maintained and

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-15 Thread Matt Hogstrom
+1 … that is one of the biggest challenges for any tools. Mainframe customers (and even distributed) want provenance of code and a throat to choke. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. -

Re: Routine using TIMEUSED called Statically gets different results

2023-03-15 Thread Farley, Peter
Use the IBM-supplied IEABRCX copy member (Found in SYS1.MACLIB; IEABRCX DEFINE, then IEABRCX ENABLE) to convert base-reg branches to relative branches. I also recommend using SYSSTATE ARCHLVL=2 or even 3 if your hardware is current enough. YMMV. Be careful using BAKR/PR - you must use them in

Re: Routine using TIMEUSED called Statically gets different results

2023-03-15 Thread Chris P Fried
Regarding: AGAIN TIMEUSED ... JNZ Again Versus AGAIN TIMEUSED .. CFI R15,8 BE AGAIN I used CFI because it is an immediate instruction.That instruction is not going to need the literal pool. I also used that instruction because it is my understanding that TIMEUSED

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:30:33 -0700, Michael Stein wrote: >... >Then a SMP build process would build or rebuild the targets needing >changes from the current configuration to the new desired configuration. >So any PTF could be removed, at least as long as the pile of MODs still >contained the

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-15 Thread David Crayford
The major difference is that Rocket offer enterprise support for their open source tools which a lot of customers deem mandatory. YMMV. On 14/3/23 22:09, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software - there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open

Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-15 Thread Joe Monk
Or you just could do an STFLE and check the facility bits... Joe On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 10:52 AM P H < 04843e86df79-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > This doc (url below) will give you a list of what is available/supported > on different generations of the current System z. However

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Michael Stein
commenting on previous merged emails: > Yes, there are indeed Linux package managers. They don't get beyond the > "replace the entire package" level. THey have no concept of individual > fixes and their interactions. > Are they as powerful as SMP? No, but they fill a similar niche. They are more

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:49:24 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote: >Yes, there are indeed Linux package managers. They don't get beyond the >"replace the entire package" level. THey have no concept of individual >fixes and their interactions. > There's a hazard. Customers come to fear possible collateral

Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-15 Thread P H
This doc (url below) will give you a list of what is available/supported on different generations of the current System z. However if you want to know about a specific system you have then discuss with your IBM Rep who will be able to give you a complete list of features (VPD) for your System.

Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, with STFL. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ituriel do Neto [03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 9:30 AM

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Joel C. Ewing
In Linux, the package version, sub-version, and sub-sub-version level indicate maintenance level and play a role roughly analogous to highest PTF level, with each new maintenance level of a package fixing one or more  numbered bug reports, which are a rough analogy to an APAR.  So one package

Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-15 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Can we detect if a specific feature is available in the current hardware? Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sábado, 11 de março de 2023 às 14:05:12 BRT, Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu: On Sat, 11 Mar 2023

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
They do, however, have the concept of dependency among packages. The configuration control software that I mentioned does quite a bit more. Are they as powerful as SMP? No, but they fill a similar niche. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
I coined the term "stupidity above and beyond the call of duty" for such incidents. Richard Feynman (ז״ל) would have referred to it as "cargo cult systems programming". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe