Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 17:30:05 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > >Code page issue on your emulator? Note the valid codes from help when I >tried >a bracket. This is z/OS 2.5. > It's EBCDIC, y'know. -- gil

Re: SCHEDIRB getting real close showing the code

2023-09-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
It didn’t seem to work that way Ep= didn’t equal RBEPA RBEPA documented in the data areas Manuel At location +C from RBBASIC say entry point of irb routine in fact the last digit was odd The cirb is running amode 31 I’ll re-read again But and set a breakpoint after the the cirb And

Re: SDSF and JESSPOOL

2023-09-20 Thread Michael Babcock
We did not previously convert this one pack rescue system to SDSF external security. This is the first time IPLing it with z/OS 2.5. I defined the GROUP.SYSPROG.* profile in SDSF, refreshed the SDSF class, made the necessary ISFPRMxx member and refreshed SDSF. I could not browse any output in

Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Tom Brennan
Also check the terminal type in the ISPF settings. I usually recommend option 3 (3278). Things like option 5 (3290A) start sending graphic escape characters for things like ] and can be confusing. Not sure how this would relate to ! though. But maybe it's worth a quick look. On 9/20/2023

Re: SCHEDIRB getting real close showing the code

2023-09-20 Thread Michael Stein
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 06:00:06PM -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: > I decided to use the CIRB macro so that way I could build my own IRB > > The problem seems to be the AMODE of my RBOPSW is 24 so the high order > byte of my rbepa gets chopped off RPEPA doesn't belong to you, you should not

Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket) >instead of ! (exclamation point). > Code page issue on your emulator? Note the valid codes from help when I tried a bracket. This is z/OS 2.5.

SCHEDIRB getting real close showing the code

2023-09-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I decided to use the CIRB macro so that way I could build my own IRB The problem seems to be the AMODE of my RBOPSW is 24 so the high order byte of my rbepa gets chopped off So here is my IRB entry from SDUMP IRB: 008AC7A8 KEYSTA...

Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Charles Hardee
I'm on 2.5 and just used ! today. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 3:20 PM Binyamin Dissen wrote: > You specify the pointer type in the storage display screen. > > % = 24bit > ? = 31 bit > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:15:28 -0500 Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-09-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Farley, Peter wrote: >I believe that statement in the JCL Reference is in error and needs to >be deleted or at the very least completely rewritten. My quite >substantial experience using this technique over the last 10-15 years >is that using JCL symbols as part of the definition of other JCL

Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You specify the pointer type in the storage display screen. % = 24bit ? = 31 bit On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:15:28 -0500 Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: :> :>>It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow

Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket) >instead of ! (exclamation point). > How does it distinguish 24- from 31-bit pointers? Of course that could be resolved with control area maps. -- gil

Re: Softcapping - how to recognize

2023-09-20 Thread DAL POS Raphael
Hi Radoslaw, You can use SYSEVENT REQLPDAT to find out about the capping status of a system in real time. See : https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=event-obtain-data-defined-capacity-reqlpdat Ciao, -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List De la part de

z/OS ServerPac Ordering and Installing - Report from the Front Lines

2023-09-20 Thread Tom Longfellow
I am posting this as a heads up for longtime sysprogs so that they do not have to go through what I going through today. I did my due diligence and reading. Somehow I either missed or it was not readily apparent the RMF has gone through a licensing and marketing product realignment surgery.

When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket) instead of ! (exclamation point). -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Softcapping - how to recognize

2023-09-20 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> I'm looking how to find out (programatically) the LPAR is being softcapped. Check this https://groups.google.com/g/bit.listserv.ibm-main/c/ZAMY8URyeTw Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Softcapping - how to recognize

2023-09-20 Thread Charles Mills
Does this help? /* Point to the RMF data */ CVT_addr = Storage('10', 4) RMCT_addr = StorageCO(CVT_addr, 604, 4)

Re: SDSF and JESSPOOL

2023-09-20 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 20.09.2023 o 19:49, Michael Babcock pisze: We have a rescue system that we just brought up on z/OS 2.5.   I couldn't access SDSF so I defined the appropriate groups, modified ISFPRMxx and restarted SDSF, logged off and back on.  I could then get into SDSF.  I could NOT access ANY output

Softcapping - how to recognize

2023-09-20 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
I'm looking how to find out (programatically) the LPAR is being softcapped. AFAIK it was quite easy in CMF, however RMF does not show it explicitly. I also tried BCPii with no result. Any clue? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: SDSF and JESSPOOL

2023-09-20 Thread Steve Beaver
SDSF is SAF controlled Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:49, Michael Babcock wrote: > > We have a rescue system that we just brought up on z/OS 2.5. I couldn't > access SDSF so I defined the appropriate groups, modified ISFPRMxx and >

SDSF and JESSPOOL

2023-09-20 Thread Michael Babcock
We have a rescue system that we just brought up on z/OS 2.5.   I couldn't access SDSF so I defined the appropriate groups, modified ISFPRMxx and restarted SDSF, logged off and back on.  I could then get into SDSF.  I could NOT access ANY output whatsoever.  I kept getting NO DISPLAYABLE DATA. 

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-20 Thread Michael Oujesky
I presume you have a copy of Faster Than Thought. Michael At 01:09 PM 9/17/2023, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'd really be interested, because I am collecting historic computer related books, --

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement - Helpful links

2023-09-20 Thread Albertus de Wet
Marna If my memory assists me well, I heard during the last SHARE in NOLA, that z/OS 3.1 will be available for ordering on 9/19 and available for delivery on 9/29. I tried to place a software upgrade order on IBM, but only 2.5 is listed. - I assume since it's a new version, there will be cost

Re: Test site for certificate revocation?

2023-09-20 Thread Charles Mills
@Colin, I can do that. That may be one of the better options. Thanks all. Charles On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 08:22:22 +0100, Colin Paice wrote: >You could try openssl s_server >I use this script on Linux > > >*cert=" -cert ./docec384.pem -certform pem -key docec384.key.pem -keyform >pem"

Re: JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Thanks for changing the Subject: as the topic drifted. On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:23:31 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >I believe that statement in the JCL Reference is in error and needs to be >deleted or at the very least completely rewritten. My quite substantial >experience using this technique

JCL symbols used to define other JCL symbols [was: RE: Is SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-09-20 Thread Farley, Peter
I believe that statement in the JCL Reference is in error and needs to be deleted or at the very least completely rewritten. My quite substantial experience using this technique over the last 10-15 years is that using JCL symbols as part of the definition of other JCL symbols works flawlessly

Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice

2023-09-20 Thread Peter Relson
Adam J wrote Given the proper authorization, you can: - Issue an AXSET, specifying a value of 1 - Issue an SSAR instruction identifying the target address space as the secondary address space - Use MVCP / MVCS instructions to copy data between your primary address space and the secondary

Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice

2023-09-20 Thread Tom Marchant
No. z/Architecture, as well as System/360, 370 and 390 have consistently numbered bits from left to right. You would do well to read, very carefully, https://d.cxcore.net/Eric%20S%20Raymond/How%20To%20Ask%20Questions%20The%20Smart%20Way.pdf -- Tom Marchant On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 07:57:05 -0400,

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-09-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Peter Hannigan wrote: >If the length of the prefix can be limited to seven characters then >this can be used: Wow. It took me 10+ minutes of staring at this to puzzle it out. Too clever by half for me (and that's not meant as an insult). After much discussion, we've concluded that nobody is

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-20 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I think that it comes down to provenance (is where it came from trusted) as well as a need for support when something goes wrong. The community support is best effort with no warranties. Other vendors like IBM, Rocket and Broadcom are now pre-requing the Zowe and as such they provide support

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 04:12:20 +, Peter Hannigan wrote: >... >// SET A=' ' > - Do not specify JCL symbols within other JCL symbols. The results can be unpredictable, especially if the imbedded JCL symbol is

Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice

2023-09-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
Bit 0 would be if I did this O R5,=X’0001’ > On Sep 19, 2023, at 9:33 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > That's bit 0. > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Joseph Reichman > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 9:20 PM > To:

Re: SORT INCLUDE problem

2023-09-20 Thread Jack Zukt
Hello Kolusu, Thank you very much for your help. I was not quite happy with the solution that I had come up with, as I was reading the input file twice and that bothered me because that is not an efficient solution. You latest solution is much simpler and efficient. And much more elegant as well.

Re: Test site for certificate revocation?

2023-09-20 Thread Colin Paice
You could try openssl s_server I use this script on Linux *cert=" -cert ./docec384.pem -certform pem -key docec384.key.pem -keyform pem" CA="-chainCAfile ./docca256.pem"* *debug="-trace "* *port="-port 4433 "* *openssl s_server $port $cert $CA $debug -www * and a web browser to

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-20 Thread Robin Atwood
Thanks, Brian and Matt. Perhaps the fact that you can get Zowe directly from IBM will help mitigate the prejudice against open source! Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 12:27 PM To: