Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:46:20 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: > >Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual >names? > You shouldn't need if you can just open the *_TOC.htm file in a browsert/ Otherwise, do you have the Ubuntu utilities? I have one that runs in

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Brian Westerman
Tom, Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual names? Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Brennan
True! But with one terminal emulator I use a lot, there is no APL character support. There are still GE (Graphic Escape) characters, but those are just for display. If you try to copy the GE characters ISPF uses for boxes, the sides and corners are converted to ASCII characters like this:

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
In addition to all of the other translations that may be invoked, a 3270 with text or APL has two built-in code pages and uses the GE character to select the alternate page. ISPF has to deal with that if you select the appropriate terminal type. From:

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
LINK, LINKMVS, LINKPGM? Is there still a working RCF process? I'm also skeptical of Modes of IPCS Operation in the user manual; I know of no reason that you can't use all of address iljexec address ipcs address tso in the same member. From:

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-10 Thread Joseph Reichman
I read cover to cover the three IPCS manuals there are sporadic examples of certain subcommands Bottom line are there Rexx commands for all the commands from option 6 on the IPCS primary option menu Would be nice if this was documented with the syntax of each command > On Oct 10, 2023, at

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 01:36:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >SA23-1382-60 z/OS MVS IPCS Commands > In which I read: – CALLMVS REXX host command environment >SA32-0972-60 z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference > Doesn't seem to mention "CALLMVS". Do they mean LINKMVS? -- gil

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Grant Taylor
On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote: The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I was wondering the same thing. I'm watching the thread to learn more. I don't know graphical environments well enough to analyze it. But it would mean that, yes,

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
SA23-1382-60z/OS MVS IPCS Commands A23-1384-60 z/OS MVS IPCS User's Guide SA32-0972-60z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference SA32-0982-60z/OS TSO/E REXX User's Guide From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph Reichman Sent:

IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-10 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I am posting this message here and at the TSO/REXX LISTSERV not sure which is more appropriate. Would anyone know where the documentation is for IPCS and REXX Are all the valid commands that are on ISPF PANEL BLSPDSLE if so is the command/subcommand in Rexx documented any where I mean

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:51:08 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >I concur, they have updated the contents of the 1Gb+ zip file to include the >missing TOC file(s) without changing the external file name, but all the files >inside are now dated 2023-10-09 instead of 2023-09-29, including the new TOC

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Clicking on the link in the e-mail. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 5:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
+1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: 10 October 2023 23:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Yes! Lionel mentioned that this morning in another group. And I'm pretty sure it was his pressure that got

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:51:08 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >I concur, they have updated the contents of the 1Gb+ zip file to include the >missing TOC file(s) without changing the external file name, but all the files >inside are now dated 2023-10-09 instead of 2023-09-29, including the new TOC

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Brennan
Rich, this post is much better :) Your first post about an EBCDIC font is probably something no Windows terminal emulator does. Otherwise the user would be really limited in font selection. In fact, I've never even seen an EBCDIC font although I guess they must exist. I'd go out on a limb

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Roger Bolan
There are a few layers to getting the codepages right for using a terminal emulator and ISPF Edit and Browse on the host. For example, in Personal Communications I first define my host codepage. I have a lot of choices. From 420 (Arabic) to 1130 (Vietnamese). I tend to use 1047 (U.S.) to get my

Re: How turn on GSK trace for batch job that is controlled by PAGENT?

2023-10-10 Thread Charles Mills
@Peter, thanks. > This example uses TLSMECHANISM FTP but it should not matter. Perhaps it should not, but it does, and that is the problem. Working with my existing JCL, not yours (but it should not matter ): My JCL uses //STEP1 EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM=(, //

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
If you don't want to drop into assembler, you can read the directory of a PDS by having a DDname point to the data set name and DO NOT specify a member name. Use an LRECL and BLKSIZE of 256. You can read to the end and then you have the entire directory in storage. This can be done in REXX if

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
With Java, the JZOS Toolkit has an interface to PDS directories, including MemberStatistics https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/sdk-java-technology/8?topic=SSYKE2_8.0.0/com.ibm.java.zsecurity.api.80.doc/com.ibm.jzos/overview-summary.htm Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Brennan
Yes! Lionel mentioned that this morning in another group. And I'm pretty sure it was his pressure that got IBM's attention. Thanks Lionel! On 10/10/2023 1:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Farley, Peter
I concur, they have updated the contents of the 1Gb+ zip file to include the missing TOC file(s) without changing the external file name, but all the files inside are now dated 2023-10-09 instead of 2023-09-29, including the new TOC files. I DL’d that same file on Friday 10/2 and it did NOT

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:15:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >. > >NoSuchKey >The specified key does not exist. > >/ibm-docs-static-content/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package- > >3ca221f8-a30d-448b-801b-446f630f2d4f >404 > > Was that a search on the web? (How?) Or a search with local

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
. NoSuchKey The specified key does not exist. /ibm-docs-static-content/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package- 3ca221f8-a30d-448b-801b-446f630f2d4f 404 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread Anthony Fletcher
+1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel You do know that he is a volunteer, don't you? I'm greatful for whatever time he is able aand willing to put

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the >html file and produces Windows shortcuts. But of course it can't work >at all without the html index. https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797 > Apparently as of

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Mostly not ASCII, which is where the trouble lies, at least until everybody is Unicode and the code page madness goes away. Only 0-127 are ASCII, and even there it is common to repurpose 0-31. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rick

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Rick Troth
Not late at all. The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I don't know graphical environments well enough to analyze it. But it would mean that, yes, there *is* A/E translation happening even in the graphical 3270 emulators. (In hopes of not

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
You do know that he is a volunteer, don't you? I'm greatful for whatever time he is able aand willing to put in. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of esmie moo <012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Steve Thompson
VM (CMS) follows the same 3270 data stream protocols as does "MVS". So the 3270 emulation is where the code pages have to be effected for the "workstation". I say this because I used two different 3270 emulators for CMS (QWS3270 & HOD) and one gets the same issues with "NOT" and the like.

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes. Use DESERV to get the directory entry and look at the user data field. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 10.10.2023 o 18:18, jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar pisze: Hi! I want to understand how TN3270 emulation works regarding convertion of characters (between EBCDIC and ASCII, and viceversa). This is how I think it works (more or less), but I am not sure at all. So please let me know about any

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
It depends on the software that you're using. I'll addres ISPF on z/OS because I'm more familiar with that than, e.g., z/VM. Worst case the data stream is subject to translation on the MVS side by both ISPF and VTIOC (TSO/VTAM IOC), both allowing the user to control the translation. On the PC

Re: How turn on GSK trace for batch job that is controlled by PAGENT?

2023-10-10 Thread Peter Vels
I made some mistakes editing this on my phone, sorry. You don't need the ",SYMBOLS=(JCLONLY)" You do need ",SYMBOLS=(EXECSYS)" after INPUT DD* On Mon, 9 Oct 2023, 19:06 Peter Vels, wrote: > I use this: > > //FTPS EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4M, > //

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
There are other methods to check someone's safety. One of them is to send an email to that person and NOT to THOUSAND others. BTW: the topic is not about the person, it is about country. AFAIR there was no such topic about Ukraine. We (polish people) had been receiving over 100k refugees

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Thanks Tom, I was hoping for a high level interface though something like jzos. Appreciate the pointer and I’ll create something. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook LinkedIn Twitter

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Thanks Mike, this helps a lot. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook LinkedIn Twitter “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Oct

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Steve Thompson
I am replying a bit late to this. However, when you do a copy/paste from the TN3270 screen to Notepad (as an example), it then becomes "ASCII". Same for copy to Word. Now, if you copy from your workstation and paste into the TN3270 emulator, it gets converted/translated to "EBCDIC" and

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Mike Shaw
Matt, I have Assembler code to decode the ISPF stats once you have the directory entry in-hand. Here is the IBM mapping macro for the ISPF stats in a directory entry: MACRO ISPDSTAT , Macro from ISP.AISPMACS ISPF DLIB ISPFDIR DSECT ISPVERS DSX

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Cameron Conacher
Hello, As far as I know, UTF-8 is not an option. Full disclosure though, I have never tried. DBCS (Double Byte Character Set) is an IBM construct. The 3270 DataStream first see the x’0E’ which means Shift-Out of SBCS mode and into DBCS mode, and then we have a number of sixteen bit encoding units

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2023-10-10 13:08, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the community here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com/ Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 17:06:51 +, Cameron Conacher wrote: >Yes DBCS is available. >The block of DBCS data starts with a hex ‘0E’ and terminates with a hex ‘0F. > Which CCSID(s)? Which of these would be best for viewing a UTF-8 file? (I'd hope for 1208.) -- Thanks, gil

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Marchant
ISPF statistics are kept in the directory. You can read the directory entry with BLDL. Or read the directory directly and look for the entry. Directory blocks are 256 bytes. Mapping macro is IHAPDS. -- Tom Marchant On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:53:26 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >I’m looking for a

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the community here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Cameron Conacher
Yes DBCS is available. The block of DBCS data starts with a hex ‘0E’ and terminates with a hex ‘0F. Thanks …….Cameron From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII On

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread esmie moo
It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset.  Darren please do your job as administrator and stop this thread. Elspeth On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I started this thread to

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:38:13 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: > >TN3270 is an EBCDIC protocol. >When a TN3270 client program connects to a z/OS or z/VM or z/VSE or >z/TPF host (typically on TCP port 23) and negotiates for TN3270, >everything is EBCDIC after that. (Well ... everything except the

Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I’m looking for a way to access ISPF statistics from Java or C outside of a TSO / ISPF environment. Does such an animal exist out there ? Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Rick Troth
Hi Juan -- TN3270 is an EBCDIC protocol. When a TN3270 client program connects to a z/OS or z/VM or z/VSE or z/TPF host (typically on TCP port 23) and negotiates for TN3270, everything is EBCDIC after that. (Well ... everything except the signalling, of course. But the textual content is all

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread Steve Beaver
I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok. Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt. Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Israel

2023-10-10 Thread willie bunter
Yes, of course it has.  The rules depend upon the "subject" being posted.  It may have nothing to do with technical information. On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:05:48 p.m. EDT, Dave Beagle <0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Have the rules been suspended? Sent

TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Hi! I want to understand how TN3270 emulation works regarding convertion of characters (between EBCDIC and ASCII, and viceversa). This is how I think it works (more or less), but I am not sure at all. So please let me know about any mistakes. Let suppose that you use a TN3270 emulator program to

Re: issuing a IPCS subcommand from an IPCS exit

2023-10-10 Thread Joseph Reichman
Trying to create a control block using BLSQMFLD BLSQMDEF and BLSQHMDR if not for the macros as Jon mentioned could of done this in Rexx Thanks > On Oct 10, 2023, at 5:58 AM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > Why would you want to read the results of a CBF in your exit? Process the > actual

Re: issuing a IPCS subcommand from an IPCS exit

2023-10-10 Thread Joseph Reichman
I’m using the verbx exit mainly to format my own personal control blocks the BLSQMDEF BLSQMFLD and BLSQLSHDR macros and format service I’m not sure if it’s available under Rexx while the service might be the macros are assembler I could maybe have the Rexx call an assembler program for that

Re: zombie XCF group

2023-10-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 09.10.2023 o 20:39, Mark A. Brooks pisze: Hi, See the XCF delete utility, IXCDELUT which should be in SAMPLIB. --Mark Brooks Thank you. It worked. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: issuing a IPCS subcommand from an IPCS exit

2023-10-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Why would you want to read the results of a CBF in your exit? Process the actual control block. On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 16:50:22 -0400 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>What if I need the info in the exit :>Is there any way of getting it :>On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 4:49 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: :>> IPCS

Re: SMP/E and PATH existence

2023-10-10 Thread Rob Scott
Jon Obviously APPLY CHECK is standard practice, however this will only check the DDDEFs referenced by the FMID/PTF being applied in the current target zone. The purpose of these "check DDDEF" utilities is to validate the entire CSI across multiple zones. Back in the day, I used to run them