On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 18:44:10 +0100, Alain Benvéniste
wrote:
>I have removed the ethernet word on link statement.
>
>And it works ! Thanks !
You're welcome, but I don't know why it worked. Within OSA, layer 2 and layer
3 can communicate (unlike HiperSockets) unless port isolation is turned on
I don't think anyone has mentioned that X'C0' (left brace in the U.S.)
is valid in a member name. I didn't test to see whether it's allowed
in the first position; probably not.
X'C0' is also valid in a dsname on a non-SMS volume, but it's now
broken in that you can't catalog it any more.
High values indicates end of directory.
On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 6:30 PM Phil Smith III wrote:
> Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> >STOW 'Abc Xyz!'probably works.
> >STOW 8X'FF' probably doesn't or produces unexpected results.
>
> Ah.this is in reference to the original question, sorta, not
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:42:05 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>Before LIKE, you needed IDCAMS to create VSAM files, after LIKE you could do
>this with just JCL
>
Ah. So for PS or PO it has no advantage over DCB=dsname. Perhaps for SPACE?
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Thanks,
gil
Before LIKE, you needed IDCAMS to create VSAM files, after LIKE you could do
this with just JCL
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Going back to hazy memories...
GDGs needed the DSN specified, and the DCB info DCB=(dsn,) so
that the allocation routines would correctly set the DSCB info
for the data set by getting the LRECL, RECFM, etc. so that
allocation would have all that. I'm not sure that DFP V3 fixed
this, or
Actually STOW 8XL’FF’
Will work
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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 18:34, Paul Gilmartin
> <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 23:42:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>> Long ago (in OS/390?) IBM
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 19:29:46 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote:
>Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>STOW 'Abc Xyz!'probably works.
>>STOW 8X'FF' probably doesn't or produces unexpected results.
>
>Ah.this is in reference to the original question, sorta, not to my "Why?"
>question. Thanks.
>
As
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 23:42:41 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Long ago (in OS/390?) IBM introduced a bunch of keywords equivalent to
>subparameters of DCB, e.g., LRECL= is equivalent to DCB=LRECL=. I believe that
>LIKE= was part of that.
>
Did LIKE add any expressive power that DCB lacks?
I
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>STOW 'Abc Xyz!'probably works.
>STOW 8X'FF' probably doesn't or produces unexpected results.
Ah.this is in reference to the original question, sorta, not to my "Why?"
question. Thanks.
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Is there a FAMS equivalent to STOW? Does member 8'X'FF' work wit PDSE?
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Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:16:32 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote:
>
>And Steve Beaver added:
>>The simplest path on this discussion is to try it in batch or ispf. The only
>>other way is in HLASM with the STOW macro
>
>Try what? Unclear what you're suggesting?
>
STOW 'Abc Xyz!'probably works.
Long ago (in OS/390?) IBM introduced a bunch of keywords equivalent to
subparameters of DCB, e.g., LRECL= is equivalent to DCB=LRECL=. I believe that
LIKE= was part of that.
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Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>The "8 characters rule" is widely used in z/OS and mainframe world.
>Why?
Presumably because a doubleword is a nice, discrete size of data-big enough to
be useful, small enough to manipulate with things like two (now one) register?
And Steve Beaver added:
>The simplest
DCB was often used in referbacks, eg DCB=(*.STEP1.MASTER), I'm sure most
modernspeak prefers LIKE. Blame the Beatles.
Yanno what I mean like?
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 9:15 AM Paul Gilmartin <
042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:50:07 +, Gibney, Dave
I often create a function to deal with quotes. Typically I'll use an
UNQUOTE function and a REQUOTE function. My use of the letter Q was by way
of an example.
MyDSN = UNQUOTE(MyDSN)
MyDSN = REQUOTE(MyDSN)
Use of the STRIP function is recommended too. This is where embedded quotes
can confuse:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:50:07 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>DCB for the subparameters as been depreciated and, in my opinion, bad form for
>most of the 40 years I worked on mainframes. The DCB=modeldscb form used for
>new GDS allocations hasn't been needed since SMS came along. Early 90s'?
>I may
DCB for the subparameters as been depreciated and, in my opinion, bad form for
most of the 40 years I worked on mainframes. The DCB=modeldscb form used for
new GDS allocations hasn't been needed since SMS came along. Early 90s'?
I may recall wrong, but I think LIKE was new with SMS.
>
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:04:48 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>...
>I have to admit: I almost never used DCB keyword in JCL and (AFAIR)
>absolutely never DCB=HLQ.DATASET.NAME.
>When teaching JCL I explain it, but also advice to not using that.
>BTW: LIKE=HLQ.FOO-BAR works like a charm.
>
in
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:59:09 -0600, Steve Beaver wrote:
>The simplest path on this discussion is to try it in batch or ispf. The only
>other way is in HLASM with the STOW macro
>
I've tried it with STOW. It likes any 8 bytes: lower case, embedded spaces,
NULs, etc.
And I consider it improper
W dniu 06.01.2024 o 23:59, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:14:28 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
...
For dataset names the addition is "-". This character can be used in
dataset names with no tricks like name in apostrophes, uncataloged ones,
etc.
But not, in my experience, in
The simplest path on this discussion is to try it in batch or ispf. The only
other way is in HLASM with the STOW macro
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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 13:55, Radoslaw Skorupka
> <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> W
W dniu 07.01.2024 o 19:02, Phil Smith III pisze:
Paul Gilmartin wrote, in part, in answer to "Why can't a data set name element start
with a digit":
Left-to-right lexical analyzer that treats anything beginning with a digit
as a number.
I'm willing to believe this, but am unclear on why
No, it is not catalog issue, including multilevel alias. I just created
alias named HLQ.A-L1
However first qualifier is special one because of RACF. You cannot
create RACF profile without creating group or user for HLQ. And both
GROUP and USER names cannot contain "-".
Of course one may
Paul Gilmartin wrote, in part, in answer to "Why can't a data set name element
start with a digit":
>Left-to-right lexical analyzer that treats anything beginning with a digit
>as a number.
I'm willing to believe this, but am unclear on why whatever is parsing a DSN
would care whether it's a
And for multi-level aliases also?
Michael
At 07:15 PM 1/6/2024, Steve Thompson wrote:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Would that be because of a Catalog issue? As in an Alias can't contain "-"?
Steve Thompson
On 1/6/2024 6:18 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 1/6/2024 2:14 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka
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