All this is reminding me repeatedly of the time I spent learning, and
eventually writing edit macros in, TECO, the singularly unintuitive text
editor on the DECsystem-10. Not that I'm moaning for it to come back...but
it was unexpectedly handy once I learned its ins and outs.
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All I see are gigs requiring a military
clearance. I really feel for the recruiters who have to do that.
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/* The most important thing a father can do for his children is to love their
mother. -Theodore Hesburgh */
-Original Me
ortant to their effectiveness, after all.
It's a good investment of my time, from which everyone benefits - the gig
worker, the head-hunter and the client.
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/* I much prefer life under the U.S. Government to life under the brutal
Chine
curity and
half for development of some kind. I'm not getting anything for this, nor
asking anything; all I do is create a new email, attach a few emails to it and
send it to the list. So if anyone here is looking around, let me know and I'll
add you to my list.
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n
downloaded it and applied CRACF to it. Forensic investigators afterward tested
the same utility and were able to get 10 or 20 thousand passwords from it in
the first day of running on an ordinary PC. (Going by memory, but I think it's
about right.)
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delete, from
the PDS shared by all the developers, the member that I no longer needed.
I ran it around noon. There were, I would guess, not quite 50 of us in the
department, so I wiped out about four hours' work for let's guess 30 or 40
programmers. I was not a popular newbie that day
Aha! I just reread the question. Sorry, ignore the below; I didn't read
carefully the first time.
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/* Beware of any Christian leader who does not walk with a limp. -Bob
Mumford */
-Original Message-
From: Bob Bridges
lse, even
though your ID matches the HLQ. Ownership is not defined by default.
ACF2...it's been too long. ACF2 used to be my first security system, but I
haven't used it in about ten years now.
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/* Ye knowe ek that in forme
h (according to this
explanation) has not yet been collected?
I'm not buying it.
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7;t ~all~ be illiterate and
therefore it's not unlikely - just the reverse - that some of them will be able
to compose a grammatically correct email. No one said anything about
"undetectable"; for verisimilitude you'd want ~some~ degree of "foreign-ness".
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ammed. It's not the smart people who fall for
"I want you to handle my money for me"; it's the greedy ones. And greedy
people are foolish, but they're not necessarily stupid.
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/* War is God's way
e actual address, but done like that.)
I guess if there's a real fear that the friend's account has been hijacked,
an email to that account may not prove anything. ("Nobody here but us
chickens!") But in many cases, as others here have pointed out, the account
wasn't hijacke
I dunno, though, the first part of it was entertaining. And as I'm not a
systems programmer (I came into mainframe security through the development
door), many of the more on-topic threads here are opaque to me, so the
occasional fight over COBOL or CLIST provides some diversion.
--
osts I got the impression you were disagreeing with
Mr Metz, that you believed REXX represented data in other forms that EBCDIC
character strings. (EBCDIC in TSO REXX, that is; I'm not concerned with
ASCII platforms here.) But your example seems to support his assertion.
Did I misunderstand you
"Mehitabel" - wow! You're a lot older than I assumed, Mr Metz!
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/* In its state of nature [a dog] has a smell, and habits, which frustrate
man's love; he washes it, house-trains it, teaches it not to steal, and is
s
't one or two of you from both
sides run a program demonstrating your claim? It would probably be
necessary to define the compiler you're running, too.
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/* Oh good. Now he'll be bi-ignorant. -Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim
Because I wasn't paying attention, I guess. Maybe I did do it that
way in the past, but just now the below is what I remembered. Absent of me.
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/* God's never been disappointed in me, because he never had any illusions
about
ike a lot of documentation, to some programmers. But the older
I get, the more comments I write into even fairly simple programs.)
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/* I'm told that Wagner's music is not as bad as it sounds. -Mark Twain */
-Original Mes
Ah, that makes more sense than my first guess.
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/* Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence. -Kettering's
Law, quoted in _The Number of the Beast_ by Robert A Heinlein. */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Main
king about. Did you accidentally
reverse your meaning? Or what am I missing?
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/* Anarchy might be great, if only it could be enforced. -Joseph Sobran,
2001-03-27 */
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailt
When you care about efficiency, I'd think this would be better:
const=4/3*3.14159E0 /* in the initialization */
volume=const*radius**3 /* inside the loop */
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/* Things may come to those who wait, but only those things left behi
Gotta side with Robin on that one.
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/* Law #37 of combat operations: Anything you do can get you killed, including
nothing. */
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
t monster may be out there somewhere.
(If I have to explain it, it just proves I should never write it that way in
the first place. This is better:
if fx then str='true'; else str=true
But it sometimes pleases me to be too clever for my own good.)
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ning before the keystroke gets to Attachmate
Extra!.
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/* Confession without repentance is just bragging. -Rev Eugene Bolton */
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf
works in Outlook
but doesn't.
Clearly the problem a) isn't in my imagination, b) isn't on my own hardware
somewhere, and c) isn't in any part of the mainframe. It's gotta be in the VPN
or on the server side. I'll still take ideas, but I hereby declare this OT for
Oh, forgot to mention: I'm using a Lenovo laptop. As always, I plug a
standard keyboard into its USB port; I hate laptop keyboards. But this morning
I tried on my laptop keyboard, too, just to see if it was the
standard keyboard. Same issue.
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Ok, but I use that rchange key pretty often, so if your theory is right it's
new. I'm doubtful.
(On the other hand I did say I was at the end of my rope and would welcome
any theory no matter how wacky, so I'm not going to complain.)
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Excellent question! I tried (return) and (up max) at the main
menu and both worked. Tried and (down max) in Edit, and both
worked. I guess it's just . Stranger and stranger.
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/* One can believe abortion (or, for that m
No response. If I hadn't
rebooted, and if weren't provably working in a non-mainframe app
(ie Outlook), it would be perfectly obvious that the problem is at my end,
either in my PC or the keyboard.
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/* I'm not na
t 24, 2020 13:08
Can you sniff the data stream on both the PC and the z?
Is the behavior different with a different emulator or PC?
--- On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:57:57 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:
>This is a really weird one. My key is not getting any response
>from ISPF, and before you tell me
th . So in Outlook
I mapped both and to the '£' character. Both and
produced '£'. I
conclude the keystroke is being sent.
I'm out of ideas. If the keystroke is being sent by my PC, and the 3270
emulation is converting it to , why does ISPF not respond to i
s ("What ~did~ it do?" "Nothing." "
'Nothing'? You mean the computer stopped? The screen was blank? The power
went off? Or was there, by chance, an error message?") But when the plaintiff
is a programmer, what's up with that?
Sigh.
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I don't need it often, but it's pretty handy when I want to hard-code a table
of data for the program to use. If the values are static enough, it makes
sense to store them in the program's comments instead of in a separate dataset.
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Hi, Lionel. I may be missing something important: Is "system REXX" just
the same as REXX, or is there some special meaning there I'm unaware of?
If it's just regular REXX, then I should think the wrapping is a function of
the log, not of REXX itself.
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Huh! I looked for it, and missed it anyway. Sorry, all.
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/* Where there’s marriage without love, there will be love without marriage.
-Poor Richard */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN
No one else has mentioned it, so I may be all wet, but don't you have to
have an ISPF environment to run an ISPF Edit macro? IKJEFT01 won't do
itI thought.
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/* Never dare your little brother to paint the family car. -
decide that - and I'm sure there are subjects on
which Poland has decided not to go along with everyone else in EU, for reasons
that no doubt seem good to Poland.
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/* Miss Manners has also observed that when children are truly allo
aints which I utter myself, from time to time - when you
actually read some USSC decisions, it seems they pay more attention to the
concept of Federalism than is commonly understood.
Please pardon the rant. It happen I'm having a long-running debate with my
best friend about this very conc
I expect that sort of thing is the same all over.
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/* When weeding, the best way to make sure you're removing a weed and not a
valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it's a
valuable plant.
urse in such flat land it didn't really seem
that fast.
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/* Wink at small faults; remember thou hast great ones. -Poor Richard */
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
ou won't be logged off as you leave ISPF. That requires one extra LOGOFF
command to leave TSO, but I'm an old user and prefer having the option.
If I wrote in ISPF more often, no doubt I'd finally force myself to learn
about that method of reloading the panel every time.
---
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discussion
of COBOL and mainframes, neither of which I would judge to be OT. It's hard to
be certain precisely where the thread crosses the line. Opinions will differ,
at least.
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/* Why did the string bass player get angry at th
Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing,
here?
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/* A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts,
at
an average of 37°C, plus or minus a few degrees. 37°C got translated to
96.6°F, which became a way-too-precise number adhered to by way-too-many moms.
"99! You have a temperature! Get to bed!"
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/* It's so sim
I just think the word "Celsius" is ugly; "centigrade" is comparatively
euphonious. A personal bias.
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/* Do you know what constitutes a "hate crime"? Put your thinking caps on.
What tools do we need to
ped around them. Besides, I think there are two different rods.
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/* It said "Insert disk #3", but only two will fit. */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Pe
tall I am in cm.
I'm happy in either pounds or kilos, but I'd have to calculate to tell you
how many kg I weigh. But centigrade makes complete sense to me.
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/* If you read the New Testament with an Old-Covenant heart, it will be
I wondered whether someone would catch me on that. Yeah, I know AltaVista gave
up the ghost a while ago. I still ~think~ "AltaVista"; I type "alta" in the
address bar and select Yahoo from the list.
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/* Programm
-countries thing, of
course, which I suppose ain't chopped liver - but that came later, so I
don't count it.
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/* A ship in harbour is safe. But that's not what a ship is for. */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discu
finally noticed that you were
saying "google" and not "Google", I thought maybe you were referring to the
internet generally, not Wikipedia specifically.
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/* The results are astounding. I've seen the before and afte
derision
when they hear Wikipedia mentioned.
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/* The arguments against state-controlled churches apply with equal force to
state-run schools. No free society allows the state to claim authority over
the mind. -Joseph Sobran */
-O
, its spelling and pronunciation varies: aluminum is in use in the
United States and Canada while aluminium is in use elsewhere."
That sounds plausible to me.
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/* It's ok to doubt your beliefs; but it's not ok to believe your doubt
Aha! Yet a third story; in this one Davy started out with "aluminum" and the
Europeans ~added~ the 'i'.
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/* Ignorance is the mother of adventure. -Hagar the Horrible */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainf
Edwin Hubble's
personality, or Einstein's mistaken beliefs, the abrasiveness of one scientist
and the generosity of another. So I'm still reading Bryson's book. But I
don’t feel obliged to believe ~all~ its scientific claims.
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Is that _The Mythical Man-Month_? Excellent book. A few decades ago my boss
bought a bunch of copies and passed them around; I read it with much interest
and have valued its lessons since then.
...Come to think of it, I should get myself a copy and reread it.
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Oh. Um. Hm.
I certainly wasn't thinking of a shell command that manipulates files and
folders as part of an algorithmic language. Not sure I'm willing to cede that
point; it's a different thing, surely?
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/* In all
h the verb MOVE exists and doesn't
actually mean COPY?
...or SET, as you suggest. Yes, I like SET better.
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/* In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on
the things you have long taken for granted.
Am I missing something obvious, here? In what computer language(s) is a move
not actually a copy? And how?
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/* In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood by
everyone, something that no one ever knew before
overall, though.
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/* In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on
the things you have long taken for granted. -Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Ah, of course you're right, I'd forgotten that. In ACF2 and Top Secret you can
have UPDATE without READ, for example - it's needed only rarely, but it's
possible with those two - not in RACF.
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/* Lord, before I commi
e cases "I can't tell").
Am I mistaken in that? If not, then how do you learn what access ABC has to
HLQ.XYZ without asking once for READ, once for UPDATE and so on?
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/* People don't really want to go back to a time when the
ou'd have to do the query for every dataset in the list.
If you do long lists and/or do this often, it puts a burden on the system that
might get you talked about (and to) by the operations folks. Probably not a
good idea.
---
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/* Peopl
I own myself second place in this exchange. And it occurred to me only
after I hit that I could have written you privately, rather than
publicly; my apologies for that.
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/* There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life
stled with it. I don't think
that's hypocrisy on your part, just self-blindness. Ease back, man, and be
less eager to posture. Go ahead and flame me immoderately, now, and then
forget it.
---
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/* The wit of conversation consists m
utility
that handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old
project. I can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host,
then RECEIVE it there.
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/* Every contrition for sin is apt to encourage a not-quite-
nd is a one-time job, after all).
Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for
multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me. I felt a fine,
self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't
have been necessary.
I experimented with that when I first became aware of it, but stopped using it
for some reason. I liked very much the ability to use ISPF Edit on some PC
files - and vice versa, sometimes - but for file transfer I thought it was 'way
too slow. Is that not the case?
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ir xyz*.docx>x.txt") or file rename. Or (non-encrypted) FTP.
Yeah, I meant what I guess is now cmd.exe
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/* It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop. -Confucius
*/
-Original Message-
From
of time. What more
can I want?
(Clarification: Go ahead and let fly with the lectures both censorious and
contemptuous; I'm likely to learn something interesting, probably even
useful.)
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/* The road to the promised land runs past Sinai
I like SDSF alright, but I'm really an IOF big-- er, enthusiast. But IOF and
SYSVIEW both have REXX interfaces, as does SDSF. You should be able to get
what you want if you use either of those.
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/* It is well to remember tha
Further comments below.
-Original Message-
From: Bob Bridges [mailto:robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 23:32
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 22
te. This question came up in TSO-REXX back
in 2013, and I described how to do it and saved it away in case I wanted to
use it again. I've sent it off-line to Mr DeChirico already; if anyone else
wants to see it, just ask.
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/
more important to him than
to me.
Funny how hard it is to remember not to do something once you're in the
habit.
He's not my boss any more, but we still correspond, and I still flinch and
undo some of my changes when forwarding an email to him.
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more advanced things. I've figured out headers/footers, for example,
footnotes, even indices and ToCs. But I struggle with them still. WP was
better in that regard, in my opinion.
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/* We've all heard that a million monkeys ba
x27;s very handy for that purpose. But I've never seen it anywhere else.
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/* Men govern nothing with more difficulty than their tongues, and can
moderate their desires more than their words. -Spinoza */
-Original Message-
From:
since. Oh, well, I had my chance.
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/* The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. */
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Mark S Waterbury
icrosoft overdoes it a little; there are so many it's sometimes hard to
find the one I want. But I'd rather have that problem than the opposite one.
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/* ...There is a saying, "Be careful what you seek; you might find it.&q
Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I've always assumed that bottom-posters are
just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their
responses without thinking about where. Are you saying that some people post
at the bottom ON PURPOSE?!
Why, for heaven's sake
rtaining horror
stories, but I don't mind investing time in training the ones who want to
learn. That's actually one of the things I found most rewarding about
end-user support. What ended up driving me out were the users who
steadfastly declined to have their problems explained.
(
ries ever since. I tell some hapless users
that their machines saw me coming and immediately cleaned up their act. I'm
mostly kidding, but how else to explain it when it happens so often?
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/* The real art of conversation is not only to
Heck, I was a PL/1 bigot from the start. There are other languages I like, but
I remember PL/1 with a kind of rosy glow - possibly because I never use it any
more.
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/* I think everyone who chooses to stay out of politics (which is your
said some damn thing" he retorted.
I think he was laughing at himself as he said it, but he said it.
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/* My aunt has rather selfishly suspended her production of chocolate cake
because of the whole "broken hip" thing, leaving
I thought about that. But for some reason I kind of like it in its present
form; it has a certain slapdash irreverence. We'll see whether I still feel
that way in a few months.
---
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/* A child's greatest source of security to
ing enough
elsewhere that he can afford to give away part of his time. So even in this
case, "free" means "paid for by someone else".
But yeah, there are some people who don't insist on getting it back one way
or another, at least part of the time.
---
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LOL - you may just have made my tagline file, Bill. We'll see whether I still
like it well enough tomorrow. Like this:
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The problem with journalism today is everyone thinks they are one -Bill
Johnson in the listserv IBM
Appropriate tagline:
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/* Most people thought [in 2000] that Web content should somehow be free,
a hopelessly naïve ideology known today as dot-communism....Dot-communism
has been discarded along with its political counterpart, as users
7;t
helping by trying to explain the complexities of mainframe security at about
the same time. The client went away to think about the communications issue,
and somehow they never came back; the project never went anywhere after that.
---
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/*
something~ at any rate. But as far as I can tell, the colleges
have this notion that mainframes are out of date, and can't get out of that
mindset or notice the facts.
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/* In religion, as in war and everything else, comfort is the on
e
world's 100 largest banks". Come on - she's telling us that almost ~all~ of
those companies intend to switch legacy applications to the cloud? I just
can't buy that. ~My~ bank had certainly better not be planning such a move.
---
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upon precisely until
the human has organized them better. Using a 3GL is one way to force that
organization.
Just a thought.
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/* I never noticed them actually using English words in the finals of the
spelling bee. They seem to have rea
I haven't written anything in FORTRAN since some time in the late '70s. But
even much more recently I heard it's regarded by number crunchers, engineers
say, as the best language for sheer speed. Not so great for report writing
and formatting.
---
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day, June 7, 2020 14:38
Would you rather code the select as a series of nested if-then-else?
--- On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:35 PM Bob Bridges wrote:
> The only language I can think of off-hand that doesn't require some sort
> of END to close a DO (I'm sure there are others) is ISPF.
ifferent from NOT as you say '!' is different from
'~' in C.
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/* That sort of wit which employs itself insolently in criticizing and
censuring the words and sentiments of others in conversation is absolute folly;
for it an
countw=countw+1
end
otherwise
do
countx=countx+1
end
end
Why? If it were easier to read, I might sympathize. But it's harder, not
easier.
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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
/* It's a good thing Lincoln wrote the Gettysburg
Really, a different operator? I didn't know; I bought a C compiler once, a
couple decades ago, but then never used it.
Now I'm wondering whether VBA has such a distinction and I simply assumed, and
never looked for it. I don't think so, but I should remember to look.
part of structured
programming. But at the particular shop I have in mind, none of that could be
contemplated, because all GOTOs are evil.
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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
/* Law #21 of combat operations: The important things are always simple; the
simple thing
the function ( 0001b), which VBA
evaluated as True - and when I said "Not Result", it negated 1 into -2 (
1110b) and evaluated that as True also.
Easy to write around once I understood what was going on, but it did confuse
me for a while.
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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.co
call suchandsuch
end
However you do it, I vastly prefer skip-to-next-item over nested Ifs. But I
confess that one single nested IF is not going to give me a headache; I just
react when I see one. Not your fault :).
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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
/* In an emerg
says that
P and (Q or R)
...evaluates to
(P and Q) or (P and R)
I'm just as rusty in COBOL as Mr Oppolzer, so I didn't know you could say
IF VAR = 'B' OR 'R'
But if you can, it must mean "IF VAR = 'B' OR VAR = 'R'".
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