Re: ADRDSSU and encrypted files

2021-11-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
Cameron, I have forgotten more than I knew, and searching manuals no longer comes easy. Someone earlier mentioned using REPRO to decrypt the file as you back it up. DF/dss will use REPRO for a logical backup, and the backup file is not encrypted. The question then is, "When restoring, does DF/

Re: CICS VSAM LSR pools and IBM DASD PPRC type mirroring.

2021-10-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw, Isn't this also the case for VSAM when you lose your OS with the files open? I may be out of date or have a lapse in memory, but I recall a file journaling option that allowed CICS to roll forward/back updates to a file with LSR buffered writes. It could be just another senior moment

Re: GDG relative number updates

2020-05-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
I always thought JES2 resolved relative GDG numbers during job initiation. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] GDG relative number updates Hi I have ha

Re: VIO dataset problem

2019-09-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Kees, Possibly a redundant and risky method, given the ease and granularity of the DFSMS approach. Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: [EXT] Re: VIO dataset problem

2019-09-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
But of course you follow up that journaling with CLPA at IPL... RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2019

Re: VIO dataset problem

2019-09-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
track geometry makes life easier, even with SDB. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, 23 September 2019 22:35 To: IBM

Re: z15 from IBM i perspective

2019-09-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
I like the scientific phraseology: four-fifths of five-eighths of FA. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, 24

Re: VIO dataset problem

2019-09-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
class for these jobs? RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shivang Sharma Sent: Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:47 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subjec

Re: Erase On Scratch

2019-09-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
Jesse, Nowadays you would still be long gone, but depending on media, pool occupancy, and page migration, there will likely be large areas of in the clear content, unless accessed by CKD. Next time, ask your vendor about disk scrubbing. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705

Re: Erase On Scratch

2019-09-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
separately from the actual track contents. Thanks for asking Kees, and making me exercise some brain cells. If I am wrong on anything, I hope someone will educate me. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original

Re: Erase On Scratch

2019-09-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
flow on to replication. Move out of the past, and stop fooling ourselves that EOS is erasing anything, and optimise it to obfuscate the data from CKD host only, as that is all it is doing anyway. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 |

Re: GDPS, Metro Mirror, Global Mirror

2019-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
, but they were supporting GDPS services on those platforms 12 months ago, so IBM is not the only choice, even if you go the GDPS automation route. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: GDPS, Metro Mirror, Global Mirror

2019-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
Fred, Have a look outside the nine dots at what the other vendors are offering. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and the IBM products and services are not necessarily the best or most cost-effective way to get the job done. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m

Re: SMF PUZZLE

2019-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
good starting point to test the hypotheses. Do you have any additional ideas that would add to what and how SMF recording occurs when allocating a file with IEFBR14? Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original

Re: SMF PUZZLE

2019-08-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
All, Could it be that the EOF mark on the file is a DADSM function outside of the control of the program, and that is why there is no SMF record from an unopened, empty data set? Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2019-08-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
unforeseen circumstance blows the 60 days. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 02:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2019-08-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
Where? RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 01:23 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2019-08-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
Not all boomerangs come back. Not all who throw a boomerang can make it come back. Take it from an Aussie that has unsuccessfully thrown a few boomerangs. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2019-08-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
year at least as well. If for some unforeseen we blow the 60 days, who is going to pay the employee's tax in California? If they were at 50 days and visited the amusement parks in LA for 1.5 weeks they've blown it. And that's the main reason it was mothballed and made ad hoc. Ro

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2019-08-21 Thread Ron Hawkins
if you spend more than 60 calendar days in the state. Tell that to someone from Nevada. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent

Re: Pervasive Encryption - why?

2019-08-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
onary. However, from what you explain, prefixes on account numbers, like the first four of a credit card number, would no longer be the same for groups of records, so that would mean some loss of repeatability. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 408

Re: CPU time cost of dynamic allocation

2019-08-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
ggest you enhance IEFACTRT to provide the information or dig around CBT for an up to date SMF type 30 report program. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On B

Re: Pervasive Encryption - why?

2019-08-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
Phil, FPE - I learn a bit more every day. That would be an improvement over a random cypher, but wouldn't the length and repeatability of the data patterns after encryption negatively affect LZW compression, along with deduplication? Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 62

Re: Pervasive Encryption - why?

2019-08-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
compression and encryption are sure to be performed in the right sequence. Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, 6 August

Re: Stay current with what's new in DFSMS

2019-07-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
Linked in is fine by me. It is about as US-centric as FB.(Only Americans think they're the only ones using it 😊 ) RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Lis

Re: Sharing PDSEs in shared DASD Environment

2019-07-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
, and the same restrictions apply, even when you are running CA MII. In this regard, CA MII neither enhances nor restricts PDSE sharing." I think you are between a rock and a hard place. Perhaps reverting to PDSESHARING(NORMAL) and using DISP=OLD to avoid the sharing error. RON HAWKIN

Re: DASD nostalgia

2019-07-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
are a few, unsubstantiated references to failures sending the drum through a wall(s). Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of William Donzelli

Re: DASD nostalgia

2019-07-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
http://www.navydp.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=115 I checked the video twice when they talked about the FirstRand I on one of the navy ships, and did not hear them say it was a legend. Interesting that Australia used them in the telegram messaging systems. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd

Re: Test Data Generator

2019-07-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
, I believe you can introduce relational constraints to SAS indexed files. Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Baron Carter Sent: Monday

Re: MXG error reading z/OS 2.3 data

2019-07-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
Paul, The problem is not SAS or MXG. It means you have an out-of-sequence or missing segment of a spanned record in the file. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Copying portions of a huge data set

2019-07-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
I would have thought SAS is your friend. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2019 07:44 To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Volume compare utility

2019-06-21 Thread Ron Hawkins
Jesse, I may be late to the party, but did you look at using DISKCOMP on from CBT? RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent

Re: Sample JCL for full volume restore

2019-06-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
Assuming you used DFSMSdss, you could start here. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/lnxdiv6.htm, RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From

Re: Moving ECKD to FCP

2019-05-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ken, You need to reformat the logical volume, and mount it as an FCP device. Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ken Bloom Sent: Saturday

Re: Sort - File split

2019-05-21 Thread Ron Hawkins
en there would be 300 records generated If 100 copies of each unique key then there would be 200 records generated I'd have to RTFM to figure out the INPUT you provided, so I am relying on the description. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4

Re: Sort - File split

2019-05-21 Thread Ron Hawkins
. What am I missing? Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Thomas Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Sort - File split

2019-05-21 Thread Ron Hawkins
Sort it first with the SUM FIELDS=NONE option. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Thomas Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 08:26 To: IBM-MAIN

Re: how to determine dasd subsystem type from console?

2019-05-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
an get the HTC specific model information, and more. Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Monday, 20 May 2019 19:08 To

Re: how to determine dasd subsystem type from console?

2019-05-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
00850800 1 DEVICE(S) MET THE SELECTION CRITERIA 0 DEVICE(S) FAILED EXTENDED FUNCTION CHECKING The information is also available on in the Type 74 subtype 1 and 5 records, and the RMFPP Cache Summary report. RON HAWKINS Director

Re: Convert ZFS to Expanded format

2019-05-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Repro and rename. It may just be me, but when I see COPY used, I think DFSMSdss. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent

Re: [External] Re: Ancient DASD connectivity

2019-05-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
to different strings. Prepared to be corrected. RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, 20 May 2019 05:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: [External] Re: Ancient DASD connectivity

2019-05-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
the E10 and F20 out of the door. I think it was more like last to market in IBM's case. Ron RON HAWKINS Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommie

Re: spool volume migration

2019-03-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
NB if the underlying volumes are thin provisioned, then the unused space is not using any capacity. Worth considering if it makes your migration simpler. Ron Hawkins Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m: +61 400029610 | h: +61 387399252 | f: +1 4087912585 | email: ron.hawk

Re: Disk space allocation question [EXTERNAL]

2019-03-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
datasets you need to watch the TIOT. Ron Hawkins Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) m: +61 400029610 | h: +61 387399252 | f: +1 4087912585 | email: ron.hawk...@ipsicsopt.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Friday, 8 March

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data centre up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
failback will never achieve. I'm reminded of something I heard once along the lines of "We back up to restore, not to just have a copy." Ron Hawkins Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) | m: +61 400029610 | h: +61 387399252 | email: ron.hawk...@ipsicsopt.com -Original Me

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
Give that man a cigar!!! Ron Hawkins Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) | m: +61 400029610 | h: +61 387399252 | email: ron.hawk...@ipsicsopt.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM Sent: Friday, 15 February

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-11 Thread Ron hawkins
Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron hawkins Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 3:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design) You ha

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-09 Thread Ron hawkins
lti-platform program design) On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote: > You have asked me and I have said nothing. Are they lyrics from a Barnsey song? > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) > Sent: Thursday,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
Async PPRC ESCON is synchronous, where after sending a buffer, it would wait for acknowledgement before sending the next buffer. FICON is async, where it sends buffer after buffer without waiting. If it doesn't get an acknowledgement within a certain time frame it would resend the lost buffe

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
5:15 PM Ron hawkins wrote: > > Radslaw, > > Have you confused a few things when explaining the difference between > synchronous and asynchronous, and ESCON compared to FICON? > > Buffer credits are synonymous to DIBs, and a large number of buffer credits > provided by Fiber

Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
You have asked me and I have said nothing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program desi

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-08 Thread Ron hawkins
Radslaw, Have you confused a few things when explaining the difference between synchronous and asynchronous, and ESCON compared to FICON? Buffer credits are synonymous to DIBs, and a large number of buffer credits provided by Fiber Channel switches allowed the connection to be full of frames e

Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Ron hawkins
Jesse, Round trip delay time is the same on ESCON and Fiber Channel, but the mother-may-I nature of ESCON protocols used to pump-up the droop factor, even at 10km. Fiber Channel links changed the viability of synchronous at metro distances substantially. Personally, I think that the myth of ze

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PPRC-XD vs Async PPRC

2018-06-07 Thread Ron hawkins
Vignesh, Only XRC (Global whatever for z/OS) supports migration between vendors, and go home only works between Hitachi and IBM (or does EMC support XRC now). Hitachi and EMC have their own FICON based migration utilities, but I am not sure about IBM. There are host software options for migratio

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Ron hawkins
I think it's more like "why do we have to format disk drives." Even a VTOC needs to know where things start and end. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] empty KS

Re: Replaceing IEBGENER

2018-05-22 Thread Ron hawkins
Something like this with zHPF: // EXEC SAS //INDD DD ...DCB=BUFNO=255 //OUDD DD ...DCB=BUFNO=255 //SYSIN DD * data _null_; infile indd; file oudd; input @; put _infile_; return; run; Ron -Origi

Re: Replacing IEBGENER

2018-05-22 Thread Ron hawkins
Steve, I'm pretty sure that IEBGENER's BSAM buffering is NCP=5. Google tells me that FASTGENR is from SEA. https://seasoft.com/products/solutions-for-system-z/dasd-management/fastgenr Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday,

Re: DFSMSdss Release command

2018-05-06 Thread Ron hawkins
Gadi, While this does not help to release the space on currently empty data sets, you can mitigate the problem by having allocation assign a DSORG. Set up your ACS rules to have datasets with an unspecified DSORG drop through to a DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and the EOF is updated at allocation, and r

Re: unexpected tape issue with RETAIN

2018-05-06 Thread Ron hawkins
Tony, I remember some behavior like this from the days of real tape. Was the behavior that RETAIN would rewind but not dismount the tape, even at the end of the step, and it was AVR that found the tape if an ensuing step needed it. If there was another mount request before the ensuing step wen

Re: OA53355 - USERKEY COMMON MIGRATION SUPPORT

2018-04-25 Thread Ron hawkins
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OA53355 - USERKEY COMMON MIGRATION SUPPORT I've never had an issue, or Barry has never had an issue with me sharing code, David would indeed need to have SAS or WPS and MXG to make my samples work. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message -

Re: OA53355 - USERKEY COMMON MIGRATION SUPPORT

2018-04-24 Thread Ron hawkins
David, If there us an MXG program to run through this, then it will be in the product SOURCLIB. I don't think anyone can share MXG with you if you don't have it licensed already. I'm not trying to be a dick about it, and you may have just meant to say SAS. It just seemed like an odd request. Ro

Re: DFSMSdss dump fix after binary transfer

2018-04-23 Thread Ron hawkins
If you change it to RECFM=U first, and restore the DCB attributes after restore. Works with SMF data, so you aren't stripping the length descriptors. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@L

Re: SMF record analyze

2018-04-23 Thread Ron hawkins
Venkat, There have been some recommendations to MXG with SAS to do the analysis, and I think that is the best way to go. However, from the framing of your question, I think there would be a large learning curve if you were to start doing this from scratch. Not just learning SAS (MXG is easy),

Re: ADRDSSU ignored migrated datasets?

2018-04-16 Thread Ron hawkins
Vignesh, I think you have bigger problems than this if your scheduled backups don't run for a week and no one notices. You can set up DFSMShsm does not delete datasets that do not have a backup. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, V

Re: DASD problem

2018-02-20 Thread Ron hawkins
20, 2018, 7:53 PM Tommy Tsui wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > You are right when I changed BUFNO to 255, The overall elapsed time > > reduce from 12mins to 6 mins, So what can I do now,? Change BUFNO > > only ? How about vsam or db2 performance? > > > > > > Ron

Re: DASD problem

2018-02-20 Thread Ron hawkins
, 2018, 7:53 PM Tommy Tsui wrote: > Hi Ron, > You are right when I changed BUFNO to 255, The overall elapsed time > reduce from 12mins to 6 mins, So what can I do now,? Change BUFNO only > ? How about vsam or db2 performance? > > > Ron hawkins 於 2018年2月21日 星期三寫道: > >

Re: DASD problem

2018-02-20 Thread Ron hawkins
right when I changed BUFNO to 255, The overall elapsed time reduce from 12mins to 6 mins, So what can I do now,? Change BUFNO only ? How about vsam or db2 performance? Ron hawkins 於 2018年2月21日 星期三寫道: > Tommy, > > With PPRC, TrueCopy or SRDF synchronous the FICON and FCP speed are > in

Re: DASD problem

2018-02-20 Thread Ron hawkins
Ron, What happens to if our ficon card is 16gb, and fcp connection is 2gb, I try to do the simulation on monoplex lpar , the result is fine, now we are suspect the GRS or other system parm which will increase the disconnect time Ron hawkins 於 2018年2月 15日 星期四寫道: > Tommy, > > This shoul

Re: Any way -- DIV map LDS into data space?

2018-02-20 Thread Ron hawkins
John, Have you thought about how to signal updates to pages in the LDS to other jobs and LPARs? Hiperbatch is a great way to accomplish what you are trying to do, but there is exposure if you share the data set. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MA

Re: SMS dataset oddity with COM-Plete

2018-02-19 Thread Ron hawkins
Binyamin, Does the Management class have space release YI? Decades ago I had a problem with SAS (V6 I think) doing an Open/Close/Open on its datasets that would trigger space release, and then the EXCP would point to a location beyond the EOF. This did not result in an SOC1, but rather a x37 and

Re: TSO temp dataset

2018-02-16 Thread Ron hawkins
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] TSO temp dataset Ron Hawkins wrote: >We're talking about the temp dataset that ISPF==>EDIT==>

Re: TSO temp dataset

2018-02-15 Thread Ron hawkins
We're talking about the temp dataset that ISPF==>EDIT==>SUB command creates before copying to INTRDR. I think you're talking about the temp data sets in the submitted JCL. Not the same thing. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] O

Re: TSO temp dataset

2018-02-15 Thread Ron hawkins
I'm guessing the OP is referring to ISPCTLx data sets. You can preallocate these to larger datasets in your logon PROC. You may be able to preallocate them with REXX or CLIST before you run zSECURE command(s). I have not tried this. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: DASD problem

2018-02-15 Thread Ron hawkins
Tommy, This should not be a surprise. The name "Synchronous Remote Copy" implies the overhead that you are seeing, namely the time for the synchronous write to the remote site. PPRC will more than double the response time of random writes because they the Host write to cache has the additiona

Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Dataclass question

2018-02-07 Thread Ron hawkins
: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] AW: Re: AW: Re: Dataclass question W dniu 2018-01-30 o 20:48, Ron hawkins pisze: > Peter, > > Start using PDS-E 😊 > > I used to like to have maxextents set to 8. That worked for all but the most &g

Re: GDG Cleanup

2018-02-06 Thread Ron hawkins
Emeffers, Below is some JCL I use to clean up data sets that have a repeatable naming pattern. It is usually a mass delete of 1000s of data sets. Being a lab, I use the NSCR step because sometimes the volumes have been blown away without cleaning up the data sets first. Also good for dele

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-02-05 Thread Ron hawkins
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron hawkins Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 6:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction Arun, I think you are very close to having this running as optimally as you can unless

Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Dataclass question

2018-01-30 Thread Ron hawkins
Peter, Start using PDS-E 😊 I used to like to have maxextents set to 8. That worked for all but the most pathological of PDSs with many members updated per day. PDS-E ended up resolving that (but Lizette has some horror stories about large PDS-E). Extent reduction as I recall it does not need a

Re: AW: Re: Dataclass question

2018-01-30 Thread Ron hawkins
Peter, I'd agree with your directive if you have extent reduction disabled. Otherwise, I'll stick to my recommendation. I don't think my "more appropriate" is an absolute in the same way as "not appropriate for PDSs in any form." What is your concern with secondary extents on a PDS? Ron -

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-26 Thread Ron hawkins
it reduces further. Alternatively, if 30 increases CPU and IO try BUFND=120, then 60, etc, etc, etc. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron hawkins Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU S

Re: Dataclass question

2018-01-26 Thread Ron hawkins
Chris, I think it is a case of whatever floats your boat. I probably would not have DSORG=PO sharing the same MGMTCLAS with batch files. I agree COND IMMED or CONDITIONAL is more appropriate for PDS. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-25 Thread Ron hawkins
t: Re: [IBM-MAIN] VSAM Performance - CPU reduction [Default] On 24 Jan 2018 09:53:39 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net (Ron hawkins) wrote: >Clark, > >It's not that the process is reading a 2nd record in the same CI. That >would result in a buffer hit irre

Re: Dataclass question

2018-01-25 Thread Ron hawkins
Yes there is. YI Yes Immediate. Release unused space at Space Management cycle time, when close is issued for a data set that was open for output, and on subsequent volumes. CI Conditional Immediate. If secondary space has been allocated, release unused space at Space Management cycle time, whe

Re: CKD details

2018-01-24 Thread Ron hawkins
Tony, I am way in over my head here, and I am sure I will use the wrong terminology. As I remember it RPS was implemented by passing seek and set sector to the DASD together so there was only one disconnect sequence? Without RPS there was a disconnect/reconnect sequence for the seek, followed b

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-24 Thread Ron hawkins
- CPU reduction [Default] On 23 Jan 2018 17:35:50 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net (Ron hawkins) wrote: >Clark, > >If you had time to read through this lengthy thread you will find that >the 2nd file uses skip-sequential access. LSR is usually not an >appropria

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-23 Thread Ron hawkins
Clark, If you had time to read through this lengthy thread you will find that the 2nd file uses skip-sequential access. LSR is usually not an appropriate strategy for this access pattern. The OP has tried reducing BUFND on the second file, and observed a reduction in throughput, which verifies th

Re: Extended format internals

2018-01-22 Thread Ron hawkins
Radoslaw, Just a SWAG. Have you checked if you can see this in GTF Trace records using something like CCW=(SI,DATA=128,CCWN=32000)? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:49 AM To: I

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-22 Thread Ron hawkins
Great detective work. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] VSAM Performance - CPU reduction On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:37:

Re: What about 3390-9 track???

2018-01-19 Thread Ron hawkins
All is it referring to the physical track size of the "real 3390-9?" The 3390-9 spun at 1/3 the speed of the 3390-3, and each physical track presented 3 logical tracks to the channel program. Probably on of the earliest examples of virtualization for CKD. I think Amdahl and Hitachi virtualized

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-19 Thread Ron hawkins
Peter, Spanned records on VSAM are not the same as DSORG=PS. I need to verify this, but my memory says that even with spanned records, VSAM will write a record in a new CI if it will not fit in the current CI. I thought that spanned records are only written when the record is greater than the C

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-19 Thread Ron hawkins
t; ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net (Ron hawkins) wrote: > >>Tim, >> >>Things changed a couple of decades ago. >> >>VSAM physical block is not always the same as the CISZ. >> >>32K CISZ does not waste any space on the track. > > Where is this written up? Bein

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-19 Thread Ron hawkins
ion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] VSAM Performance - CPU reduction [Default] On 16 Jan 2018 06:54:52 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net (Ron hawkins)

Re: Finding the names of hsm's BCDSs

2018-01-17 Thread Ron hawkins
Would obtaining the data set names from SDSF meet your requirement? //DFHSMJOB MSGLEVEL=1 //STARTING EXEC DFHSM,CMD=00 XX XX* D

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-16 Thread Ron hawkins
Tim, Things changed a couple of decades ago. VSAM physical block is not always the same as the CISZ. 32K CISZ does not waste any space on the track. Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: VSAM Performance - CPU reduction

2018-01-16 Thread Ron hawkins
Arun, Don't bother, mate. I kind of give up. People can't help when you keep the kimono shut. I recommend you engage someone that works with Strobe, or the vendor directly. Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-14 Thread Ron hawkins
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron hawkins Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 1:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume Radoslaw, I'm not sure I follow. I replied to your example that specifically talked to dat

Re: AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-14 Thread Ron hawkins
s. Last, but not least, we have limited choice - up to 64(-256) non-EAV volumes or bigger EAV volumes (with the same limit for quantity). Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2018-01-13 o 19:02, Ron hawkins pisze: > Radoslaw, > > That's why

Re: AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-14 Thread Ron hawkins
Paul, Agree. zFS leaps out as an option immediately. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] AW: Re: Number of C

Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-13 Thread Ron hawkins
Ed, The way I remember it is that not long after the first 3390 started to ship, IBM "promised" that they would not change track geometry again. The proof of the pudding was that the real 3390-9 kept the same track geometry, using three logical tracks on a physical track when there was an oppor

Re: AW: Re: Number of Cylinders per Volume

2018-01-13 Thread Ron hawkins
Radoslaw, That's why you can change the threshold for the track allocation area. DCOLLECT and PROC UNIVARIATE will probably give you all the guidance you need. DCOLLECT does not have the primary space allocation size so this code is not 100% accurate. It is good enough to give some guidance. I

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