Shmuel,

I am a novice when it comes to some of the deep dive stuff that you guys
meander off, and into.

I was thinking a GTF SSCH trace off a volume allocating a data set with
IEFBR14 may be a starting point, along with looking for any SMF records
generated at the time of allocation would be a good starting point to test
the hypotheses.

Do you have any additional ideas that would add to what and how SMF
recording occurs when allocating a file with IEFBR14?

Ron


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:38
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] SMF PUZZLE

If you are configured for automatic EOF, then Allocation will write an EOF
regardless of the program name; there's nothing special about IEFBR14 except
for a performance tweak. There is no OPEN involved.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


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[Default] On 24 Aug 2019 13:41:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com (Martin Packer) wrote:

>Allocation doesn't cause SMF 14/15 to be written. CLOSE (and therefore
>OPEN) does.

If a data set is allocated by IeFBr14 on an SMS disk, as I understand it, it
will have an EOF record as its first record.  Thus it can be read (as a zero
record file) by a subsequent program or job and deleted thus from an SMF
point of view a file can be read and deleted without ever having been
created.

Clark Morris
>
>I guess, from the original post, data is written so presumably some 
>form of OPEN took place.
>
>Cheers, Martin
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>From:   Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org>
>To:     IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Date:   24/08/2019 21:23
>Subject:        Re: SMF PUZZLE
>Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
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>SMF only captures what you tell it to (with SMFPRMxx). Some shops, for 
>example, exclude STC's from certain SMF types "to avoid a performance 
>impact on CICS" or some similar reason. The whole "how to read SMFPRMxx"
>thing is beyond the scope of an e-mail. D SMF,O will give you a 
>not-quite-trivial-to-parse summary.
>
>SMF 15 shows "opened for output and then closed" (for those subsystems 
>for which it is configured, per the above). Harking back to the IEFBR14 
>discussion here a week or so ago, I wonder if a basic "create a DSN 
>with
>IEFBR14 DISP=(NEW,CTALG)" shows up in SMF 15 (because it does not close 
>the dataset). Others may well know.
>
>Charles
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
>On Behalf Of willie bunter
>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 10:30 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: SMF PUZZLE
>
>Good Day,
>I am trying to find the user/job which created a dsn.  I run my 
>trustworthy SMF job which looks for recids 05 14 15 17 18 61 62 63 64 
>65
>66 67 68 136 139 163.  The job showed the job which read the dsn & 
>deleted it but it doesn't show who or which job created it.According to 
>the LISTCAT the creation date of the dsn was Thursday Aug. 22.  I read 
>the SMF tape for the previous week and subsequent days including Aug 22 &
23.
>I was thinking if the dsn was created by a FTP or an UNIX upload 
>process which may not be trapped by SMF Any thoughts?  Any suggestions
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