Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3077152189307302.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/15/2015 at 10:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: If they is newly to assume a singular meaning, Newly? That ship sailed before or grandfathers were born. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: ISPF Workstation Setup ( Was: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring)

2015-06-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdji9qxQt85zt2ckxN_E=tck6ctf0oaxyr5ffd7hnjfq...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/13/2015 at 09:51 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: ooRexx was an option, For a simple report, yes, but I keep running into situations when I want regexen, modules from CPAN or both. Is there an

Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In sn1pr0101mb1520806f82e313af899ff027ce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com, on 06/14/2015 at 05:54 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: How's that for pedigree? The Hebrew Bible goes back farther. O r were you only looking at English? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: ISPF Workstation Setup ( Was: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring)

2015-06-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of052ac58e.66fefa0e-onc1257e63.002dabfa-c1257e63.002e0...@se.ibm.com, on 06/13/2015 at 10:22 AM, Steve Coalbran coal...@se.ibm.com said: 1. What's a CV (apart from what I need for my next job!)? SNA Control Vector. 2. Whatever address I need, how do I get it? GTTERM -- Shmuel

Re: Wait in SRB mode

2015-06-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4361085466878277.wa.dlikensinfosecinc@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/12/2015 at 09:57 PM, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com said: Does any one know of a way to wait in SRB mode. You can wait on a spin lock, but that's not desirable. Latches? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: ISPF Workstation Setup ( Was: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring)

2015-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjjKmrWL2-iqN=qg4em6PWFpFB6Dn65dM_tez==gpmu...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/12/2015 at 11:54 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: I could do it faster in Perl than my manager could using MS-Excel. That depends on what it is. There are some things that are much easier than a

Re: STCK question

2015-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In col125-w60c9bd424cfed49dec75ba3...@phx.gbl, on 06/12/2015 at 06:10 PM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said: If the highest unit you are working toward is days, it's actually quite simple to calculate. That's because you don't have to deal with months and years of differing lengths. What about

Re: STCK question

2015-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 201506122210.t5cma5pg008...@d03av01.boulder.ibm.com, on 06/12/2015 at 05:05 PM, Wayne Driscoll wdri...@us.ibm.com said: Define a constant representing the number of time units in one day You can't; it's a time-dependent variable. The problem is leap seconds. OTOH, the OP may be satisifed

Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In sn1pr0101mb15203f9534e7496dce78c073ce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com, on 06/12/2015 at 05:31 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: I have no problem with 'they/them' as genderless generic pronouns. That's good, because the usage goes back hundreds of years. OTOH, I

Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjisl0wndfnm48aegqzhcyhjktroazn-yynwzoucvtd...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/11/2015 at 02:08 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: Note that it does not _require_ APF authorization to run. You can get the logging only by simply linking it into a STEPLIB in a special TSO logon

Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjiwfazcd706jay9enaewqgrekdaso51rtkr6h-ha+3...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/11/2015 at 01:31 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: The IBM IND$FILE function basically runs a TSO command from the READY prompt. IM has never supported INF$FILE from the READY prompt, only from

Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 003001d0a50d$5ff67690$1fe363b0$@mcn.org, on 06/12/2015 at 05:43 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: IBM never documented the IND$FILE protocol either. The added information to 3270 Data streams. t may not be the comprehensive documentation that we want, but it is documentation. --

Re: STCK question

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1938152255023757.wa.janet.graffyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/11/2015 at 06:56 PM, Janet Graff 004dc9e91b6d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: But I'm missing something. Significance start character. You mightnalso like EDMK. BTW, the code might be faster using a register pair and

Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjjFdkZbrzJL5ZW-ZkarCGhWwYegvue-vhO+_=4sanh...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/11/2015 at 02:58 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: 'm a tad confused by this statement. The fact that you are running in a 3270 dession does not take away TSO commands. In particular, it doesn't take

Re: ISPF Workstation Setup ( Was: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring)

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofc69fe542.f8784ff5-onc1257e62.0046cf5a-c1257e62.0047a...@se.ibm.com, on 06/12/2015 at 03:02 PM, Steve Coalbran coal...@se.ibm.com said: Thanks Lizette, I have played with WSA but not for some time. I had to stop when I found Customers whose servers are behind: LDAP+Citrix+TPX, etc...

Re: Files for Bill Godfrey

2015-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5579cfc6.8000...@cbttape.org, on 06/11/2015 at 02:13 PM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org said: I sent him both OPTLIB files, as you probably know by now, but what tape were the 5734LM* files on? I believe that they were on TSMDTR, but check SYSSRC. Also, keep your eyes open for MVT, SVS and

Re: Share IODF in different sysplex same CPC

2015-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5670874248161270.wa.jgarci12mapfre@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/11/2015 at 08:20 AM, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com said: Yes. Our target is to do dynamic activation in the new systems. We've seen in the Redbook HCD and Dynamic I/O reconfiguration it's not possible if you don't share the

Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo58sxrwsgbto-j0kbycpaqzeuzunsc+a5+0vx5fssp7...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/11/2015 at 10:47 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: I use they all the time as the genderless pronoun. That would be he in contemporary English, but they has long antecedents. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: IND$FILE Resource Log Monitoring

2015-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In snt149-w29013f1ea2cc512dc4d849c7...@phx.gbl, on 06/11/2015 at 12:20 PM, Carlos Cordero jccorde...@hotmail.com said: What I specifically searching for is to detect the file transfer activity executed from commands given on emulators. That won't catch file transfers from an FTP command in a

Re: CF level z/OS 2.1

2015-06-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 014301d0a2b5$09162190$1b4264b0$@mindspring.com, on 06/09/2015 at 06:06 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: The CF level is related to the machine not necessarily the operating system. The fact that a given CF level supports the machine does not mean that it is adequate for

Re: STCK question

2015-06-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In col125-w3c5e39127e962ed6f1e9ea3...@phx.gbl, on 06/09/2015 at 10:04 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said: The essence of her question was, having subtracted start stck from end stck, how to extract microseconds from the result? Divide by 4096, convert to decimal and edit. STCKF TOD

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cafo-8tqu2pt2c83tx217k4cawk4zoizz4lx23ya20pfh0gt...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/09/2015 at 06:06 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: You've devolved into babbling. Zman out. Whoosh! The fact that you're humor impaired and understood neither the joke nor the frerenece to pixel count does not

Re: Identifying a NIP console

2015-06-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of5af76cad.573ca736-on85257e60.0018c30e-85257e60.0019d...@us.ibm.com, on 06/10/2015 at 12:42 AM, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com said: The NIP console device numbers are read from the IODF during an IPL IRIM and saved in a data structure in SQA. Are they also in a WTO accessible from MTRACE

Re: STCK question

2015-06-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 09c701d0a3a5$da7beb70$8f73c250$@mcn.org, on 06/10/2015 at 10:49 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: And assuming that Janet is a he. Or that you accept the gender neutral pronoun he, which has been around for centuries. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: STCK question

2015-06-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In col125-w291e9bcdcf0fce93f09161a3...@phx.gbl, on 06/08/2015 at 02:44 PM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said: Shift the value right 12 bits and you will have microseconds. (do it algebraically if you want to round up) Convert to character and display. Close but no cigar; convert to decimal

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cafo-8tohfcwkbrfe0b8amdghk_5tvlubgm0o_vlfrjo25yv...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/07/2015 at 10:33 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: OK, what I wrote was: ...could either support four 3279 sessions at once, or one 3279 session that took the whole screen (you could switch modes; in

Re: Identifying a NIP console

2015-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f66e9ee737492b448738e797fdb828eddd961...@kbmexmbxpr02.kbm1.loc, on 06/04/2015 at 08:05 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com said: The system will respond to the first console that presents an interrupt. That certainly used to be the case before console restructuring, but even if it is

Re: SWA token translation (IEFQMREC, SWAREQ)

2015-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of5321bd51.23a69625-on85257e5b.0054b99c-85257e5b.00550...@us.ibm.com, on 06/05/2015 at 11:28 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: REXX EXECs that attempt to use the STORAGE If it were me I'd add a SWAREQ service to my installation's function package; you'd still need to modify the REXX

Re: User Log File migration issue (Was Re: Notify for XMIT)

2015-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5572880c.3020...@acm.org, on 06/06/2015 at 12:41 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: Why this insistent fixation on TCB structure, Because *that* was the claim that I was rebutting. Because solving a problem usually requires a correct analysis of what is happening. Neither My

Re: Unable to get dump under TESTAUTH

2015-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAArMM9RdW8i5+GRx6O2y7F=r7r5qyo7_nyjrmrs2tnngrdd...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/04/2015 at 11:26 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: Does a register contain that address or one close to it? The Breaking-Event Address Register stored at 272-279 when an interruption occurs. I don't know

Re: XMIT-format file viewers for the PC, etc.

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556f551f.4090...@cbttape.org, on 06/03/2015 at 03:27 PM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org said: Constructive criticisms are welcome. I'd love XMIT viewers for Linux and eComStation (rebranded OS/2). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cafo-8tqp_kd-4auvtnqylmgwlpkm5618dau1atcpb2sa8iy...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/02/2015 at 03:17 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: Which is what I said it did. No, you alsoid that it *couldn't* display more than one session at a time and didn't mention explicit partitions at all. They say

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556da66b.9040...@acm.org, on 06/02/2015 at 07:49 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: That may well be, but according to IBM and TSO documentation the behavior of IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B is by design slightly different, How is that relevant to the claims about TCB structure? and their

Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OMVS command history

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ez-374283375.386687...@gmx.ch, on 06/02/2015 at 05:48 PM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said: Not sure what you're referring to, Your claim but OMVS has no access to this file. in ez-1136710568.1293527...@gmx.ch, on 05/25/2015 but I was talking about the OMVS *TSO command processor*, Given

Re: IEB814I IEBUPDTE puzzle

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2236376927233894.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/02/2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: What makes the difference? I would expect bot to fail, due to lack of DCB information. I would expect the secomd the allocate two versions

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c02617769...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on 06/02/2015 at 05:37 PM, Gibney, David Allen,Jr gib...@wsu.edu said: For some reason, which I can't make work Shmuel believes the In 000701d09bd1$1872a0e0$4957e2a0$@mcn.org, on 05/31/2015 He always includes is of value.

Re: ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo5_kayzjbpqzeu406puxsej73vpqrzularxtdw+oolw...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/01/2015 at 09:11 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: Download the XMITMGR and install. Isn't that windoze only? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4767436570688083.wa.bgodfrey.gzgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/01/2015 at 10:18 PM, Bill Godfrey bgodfrey...@gmail.com said: The grep and awk commands don't match \n to end-of-line on omvs, or on linux for that matter. Don't they match \n to LF on most Eunix and *ix systems? Do '/test$/'

Re: ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

2015-06-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 012101d09cc1$bcf04af0$36d0e0d0$@mcn.org, on 06/01/2015 at 04:21 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: I for one would love to see some way to browse the *high-level documentation* for a CBT file *directly* on a small ASCII-based system. FILE001 contains a descrtion of each file on the

Re: Question on 3270 Devices (3290 Orange Screen!)

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In blu436-smtp10277173df1957efbeea268da...@phx.gbl, on 05/31/2015 at 01:40 PM, Tony's Outlook via Mozilla tbabo...@outlook.com said: I loved the 3290, AOL. Wish I could emulate it on my large monitor. Doesn't vista handle that, plus color? Always wishing to push a limit I once split my

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556b662e.60...@acm.org, on 05/31/2015 at 02:51 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: The above CLIST code should presumably work as you expect for intercepting SEND CLIST errors in an Interactive TSO/E, ISPF environment where TSO is invoked via a TSO logon PROC as IKJEFT01 and not as

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 000701d09bd1$1872a0e0$4957e2a0$@mcn.org, on 05/31/2015 at 11:39 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: The master of the out-of-context quote. Not even close; the context was clearly IEABRCX. By all means use it blindly; it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556c5f4f.1090...@us.ibm.com, on 06/01/2015 at 09:34 AM, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com said: The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load module or a program object). It must immediately precede the load module or program object when they are within the SYSMOD.

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556c7872.7020...@acm.org, on 06/01/2015 at 10:21 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: Now to complete the test try invoking your invalid-keyword version of the CLIST from the SYSTSIN SYSIN file in a Batch TSO job step where the JCL EXEC statement invokes PGM=IKJEFT1A, If you're trying

Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OMVS command history

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ez-800529419.1651755...@gmx.ch, on 06/01/2015 at 07:51 AM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said: Well, as I wrote, the OMVS command processor There's more to OMVS than just the shell. The phrase but OMVS has no access clearly refers to more than the shell. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556c66e1.7090...@rochester.rr.com, on 06/01/2015 at 10:06 AM, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.com said: Good points all, but Gil wants to have multiple ISPF sessions on the same LPAR. TSO currently doesn't support that natively, ObGungaDin WSA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cafo-8tq0gavpzyufbhxgwxuwik6jqw4wzkq+xob-5y9hgf3...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/31/2015 at 01:54 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: Right, but this wasn't IBM, and was color (3279). 3279 is an IBM line, and 3rd party vendors rarely repurpose IBM model numbers. Clearly a 3290 competitor. Not

Re: LPAR MOBILITY

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7ejoma1d3tjintk6at60q4i723p3127...@4ax.com, on 06/01/2015 at 09:20 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: On 31 May 2015 10:05:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/28/2015 at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0354368054759855.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/01/2015 at 09:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: As the end user, I care little about the technical details of the blockage; only that the facility is unavailable. That's fine if you

Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6503242797771151.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/01/2015 at 07:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:22:12 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load

Re: List of all on-line volumes

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In col125-w282ae909a6316e1825123fa3...@phx.gbl, on 05/29/2015 at 10:24 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said: I'd rather be the victim of a bugler any day than that of a serial killer. ObHowIHateToGetUpInTheMorning And then I'll kill that other pup, the one that wakes the bugler up,

Re: HSM Recalls and MASKING

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAJTOO5-e=vog373+b6lnuxdu+zkn2+8w2essamhb0vshxrd...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/29/2015 at 11:11 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: Admins can't do wildcards on dataset names, since they are bypassing RACF. Shirley knott. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5568a3c8.5030...@gmail.com, on 05/30/2015 at 01:37 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: It implicitly converted strings to ASCII That's good if you want them converted; not so good if you don't. She died of a favor from which none could save her. and that was the end of

Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0379604180364016.wa.bgodfrey.gzgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/29/2015 at 10:30 AM, Bill Godfrey bgodfrey...@gmail.com said: I get identical results whether I use \n or $ in the OP's example. In OMVS. I'm not addressing your question but rather the OP's example. Which OMVS facilities

Re: LPAR MOBILITY

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5540078572993283.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/28/2015 at 07:31 AM, IBMZOS 00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Sysplex do the job, You can switch to a standby server, but you can't migrate an address space to another LPAR or CEC. Not at all equivalent to what

Re: GENERATED STATEMENT!?

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2133628351749565.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/27/2015 at 11:37 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Where does 41 //SYSIN DD * GENERATED STATEMENT come from? It used to come from the R/I, but in MVS I'm not sure if it's

Re: LPAR MOBILITY

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/28/2015 at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS 00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: thought Z was at the top of technology. Z is missing things that IBM developeds on S/360 and S/370. The cobbler's son is barefoot. -- Shmuel

Re: OMVS command history

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofe59387ae.7af02a11-on85257e50.003600b4-80257e50.00368...@prudential.com, on 05/25/2015 at 10:55 AM, Ken MacKenzie ken.macken...@pramerica.ie said: My question, then, is why is my command history kept if I can't use it? Your question has an assumption contrary to fact. In fact, you *can*

Re: GENERATED STATEMENT!?

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In sn1pr0101mb1520380b4bfbb7548b340e29ce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com, on 05/27/2015 at 04:54 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: //SYMS2 DD *IFSYM,SYMBOLS=(EXECSYS,LOGDD2) There is no space between asterisk and ampersand. Could that be right? That depends

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555fe63d.3010...@acm.org, on 05/22/2015 at 09:30 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: But from APPENDIX A in TSO/E Customization, any command invoked directly from the TMP that returns a non-0 return code causes the TMP to end. If true, then 10.2 Writing error routines in the CLIST

Re: List of all on-line volumes

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 55673d3b.2020...@vse2pdf.com, on 05/28/2015 at 12:07 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com said: Is there simple batch method to get a list of all on-line dasd volumes without actually coding the volumes in the JCL? There are several tools available from batch TSO, assuming authorization. Are

Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0bf72eb9d750401a98a23caab0737...@exmbxprd01.ad.ufl.edu, on 05/28/2015 at 07:57 PM, Nims,Alva John (Al) ajn...@ufl.edu said: The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load module or a program object). It must immediately precede the load module or program object when they

Re: Mysterious U4088-63 from RPTSTG(ON)

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0a0e01d0994a$e99c0410$bcd40c30$@mcn.org, on 05/28/2015 at 06:33 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Well, I moved ISAUTH() unchanged to its own assembler module. No change in the error. I removed the IEABRCX DEFINE and bingo! It works. My guess is that it doesn't recognize the eye

Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5567e81c.4040...@vse2pdf.com, on 05/29/2015 at 12:16 AM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com said: 1960's ATT pushes for a replacement of ITA2 which the ATA published as ASCII in 1963. I might believe ASA, through several iterations. I hate overloaded code points! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 03d701d09566$b22a3de0$167eb9a0$@mcn.org, on 05/23/2015 at 07:42 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: @Shmuel, MVS Assembler Services Guide says In what context and section? Is the reference to the AMODE24 flag in the load module or to the actual addressing mode? The AMODE24 pseudo-op

Re: AW: Re: OMVS command history

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ez-1136710568.1293527...@gmx.ch, on 05/25/2015 at 09:27 PM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said: but OMVS has no access to this file. What about the history command? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 20150524072331.5312595.17320.38...@yahoo.ca, on 05/24/2015 at 03:23 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: Real programmers don't document code ITYM real hackers don't document code. Real men aren't afraid to do something just because some idiotic book presents a stereotype as

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 03fa01d09573$5a824990$0f86dcb0$@mcn.org, on 05/23/2015 at 09:13 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Sorry to belabor this thread but for the sake of future Googlers felt I needed to say that a global IEABRCX DEFINE is probably a necessary part of this solution. Not if you use MF=.

Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 838271083.1045039.1432870193420.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com, on 05/29/2015 at 03:29 AM, Ze'ev Atlas 004b34e7c98a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Does anybody know why do we need two characters that seem to do the same thing No, especially since they *don't* do the same thing. A

Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8215077812992901.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/29/2015 at 12:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Using a device-specific hardware command to separate records in a general file makes as little sense as Assembler H's use of machine

Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2008381733857340.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/28/2015 at 04:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: If it's a real mainframe program, it's delivered in individual ++MOD elements and linked at customer's site with ++JCLIN. Or individual

Re: QUESTION ABOUT SPACE ABEND

2015-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofa502b2ad.1606c58d-onc1257e54.00463b1c-c1257e54.0046a...@se.ibm.com, on 05/29/2015 at 02:51 PM, Steve Coalbran coal...@se.ibm.com said: What happened to the X37 exit. As I recall, it was added for the ASB Reader, which did not carry over to AOS (OS/VS). The exit might still be there, but

Re: Spaced Out

2015-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7638430021365938.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/21/2015 at 08:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: What parameters should I supply to ALLOCATE/BPXWDYN (are they the same?) No. The parameters you need depend on how SMS is configured. For

Re: help w/ a virt printer

2015-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In bn3pr0701mb12049e035e007b1fa9c3d870fb...@bn3pr0701mb1204.namprd07.prod.outlook.com, on 05/22/2015 at 04:55 PM, August Carideo/RYE/US august.cari...@avon.com said: Trying to get back a virt printer w/o a IPL DEFINE When they start the printer on VSE is seems to go looking for a real device

Re: Parm field for debug tool

2015-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 55e78709-6777-45f0-99f7-f1b1a2147...@comcast.net, on 05/19/2015 at 08:13 PM, michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net said: Anyone know how to use the parm field for debug Tool to pass info to the program I Separate them with a slash. Also, read up on the COMMAND and PARMS commands. EXEC

Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?

2015-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555d1150.6090...@blackhillsoftware.com, on 05/21/2015 at 08:57 AM, Andrew Rowley and...@blackhillsoftware.com said: Windows puts obstacles in your path if you want to install software that is NOT digitally signed. My understanding is that m$ not only insists that the software be digitally

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 037f01d09233$366e4c90$a34ae5b0$@mcn.org, on 05/19/2015 at 05:56 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: GTTERM is AMODE 24 only! IBM, really? As long as it's not RMODE24, it's a reasonable retriction for a legacy macro. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b3542b643f5440c85f020c640da8...@corpexmbxda.bekco.com, on 05/22/2015 at 03:46 PM, Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com said: Not even remotely? No. What point were you trying to make by your comment PUSH is one letter shorter. That What point were you trying to make by your comment PUSH

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 007f01d0935a$fdc4feb0$f94efc10$@mcn.org, on 05/20/2015 at 05:13 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Thanks all for your suggestions. In the hope of helping a future Googler, here is How to Use GTTERM from an AMODE 31 Program. Why the complexity? As long a there's no RMODE24

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In sn1pr0101mb1520bae39916b66f20e5190cce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com, on 05/20/2015 at 01:14 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: Shmuel, when was the last time you needed to process data LIFO? The last time that I used REXX stack abilities. If anything, I use

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5452005464765533.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/15/2015 at 02:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: I always thought of Latin 1 as ISO8859-1 It is, but Don presumably meant that IBM-1047 was the EBCDIC equivalent to ISO-8859-1. --

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6407793781448887.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/20/2015 at 10:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: CMS/TSO Pipelines embodies a similar absurdity: It's not absurd if it doe what it was designed for. Now, if there isn't a command similar

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5559c7e4.7000...@gmail.com, on 05/18/2015 at 07:07 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: For non-Vista users What about those not runing any flavor or windoze? What are the best TN3270 clients for eCS and Linux? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555ca11e.4000...@tombrennansoftware.com, on 05/20/2015 at 07:58 AM, Tom Brennan t...@tombrennansoftware.com said: J O Skip Robinson wrote: Coding subcommands in reverse order just to save one letter in each REXX command would be absurd. Completely you with agree I, Skip. Is there a

Re: Central Florida z/OS people

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555bd985.2020...@vse2pdf.com, on 05/19/2015 at 08:47 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com said: Yep, they don't pay me for my spelling skills, Thst's why I use spill Czech. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555c9bbd.4030...@acm.org, on 05/20/2015 at 09:35 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: My recollection is that the immediate bailout from the CLIST and from batch TSO on a non-zero TSO command processor RC only occurred for commands running directly under the batch TMP TCB That's a

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

2015-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2719293287727647.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/17/2015 at 10:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: IBM's riposte might well be a challenge to cite any currently supported IBM product that exhibits a defect. Are you calling IND$FILE

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3769616319794921.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/17/2015 at 10:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Lost data should be a PE APAR, not RFE. You can always try. Who knows, the horse[1] might learn to sing. If I had a business case I'd do

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cc42e2f56d60f24fb8a6bcc639d1d96331ad0...@samtcasxmb46.usa.dce.usps.gov, on 05/15/2015 at 06:54 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov said: My Square Brackets disappeared and my Java won't compile. What code points get sent? What is your ISPF terminal type? What compiler

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In sn1pr0101mb152024b7e4914659296dfec7ce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com, on 05/15/2015 at 04:59 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: BTW What advantage would PUSH have over QUEUE? Why would one have an advantage over the other? I thought the only difference was LIFO

Re: DFSORT and RACF

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 401e5.41b6aa03.42873...@aol.com, on 05/15/2015 at 08:25 AM, Ed Finnell 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Over on AFP list one group wanted to change leading spaces to '*' maybe in a PAGEDEF. It was pointed out that if you allowed this somebody else could change leading

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5554ae6d.4030...@acm.org, on 05/14/2015 at 09:17 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: I think we resolved the issue by converting the CLIST to REXX so another TCB was involved. How is that relevant? What is relevant is how you dealt with ERROR and FAILURE in the REXX code. --

Re: DFSORT and RACF

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0815877962993498.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/15/2015 at 06:51 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za said: is it practical to protect DFSORT keywords or not. Sure it's practical, but does it serve any purpose? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cc42e2f56d60f24fb8a6bcc639d1d96331ad0...@samtcasxmb46.usa.dce.usps.gov, on 05/15/2015 at 06:54 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov said: The problem is that UNIX, and its core programming language C, rely on characters that don't exist in some EBCDIC codepages. EBCDIC 1047

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cc42e2f56d60f24fb8a6bcc639d1d96331ad0...@samtcasxmb46.usa.dce.usps.gov, on 05/15/2015 at 06:54 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov said: My Square Brackets disappeared and my Java won't compile. What code points get sent? What is your ISPF terminal type? What compiler

Re: QAFF on JOBCLASS statement

2015-05-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1210a5...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 05/14/2015 at 02:09 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com said: Apparently QAFF works for online commands only Yes, but th OP asked *why* QAFF works for online commands only therefor IOW, it doesn't

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

2015-05-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f6b6c718-ba16-402a-a5ae-815f2404e...@comcast.net, on 05/13/2015 at 11:10 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: I have had to dig it up several times and it was never easy to find the manual. I had one copy that always seem to loose itself. If you find it afain, scan it, including

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5552693f.60...@aim.com, on 05/12/2015 at 02:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Recently I discovered that if my 3270 OMVS session is hanging on an INPUT prompt while I type a comand the arrival of an unsolicited message steals the screen and loses

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5553b800.4070...@copper.net, on 05/13/2015 at 04:45 PM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net said: Here is the question: What happens if SYS1.BRODCAST fills up? You lose messages. But why are you still using it? In the meantime, install Shmuel Golob's bradcast manager from the CBT tape. How

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 03a301d08cef$ad9c2bf0$08d483d0$@mcn.org, on 05/12/2015 at 01:10 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: I did not know that TSO was cognizant of any IP address. VTIOC picks the IP address out of an optional SNA CV. If you're using a session manager, verify that it is configured to support

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