Re: Notify for XMIT

In <5554ae6d.4030...@acm.org>, on 05/14/2015 at 09:17 AM, Joel Ewing said: >I think we resolved the issue by converting the CLIST to REXX so >another TCB >was involved. How is that relevant? What is relevant is how you dealt with ERROR and FAILURE in the REXX code. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: DFSORT and RACF

In <0815877962993498.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 05/15/2015 at 06:51 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >is it practical to protect DFSORT keywords or not. Sure it's practical, but does it serve any purpose? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO p

Re: CBT File 102 TAPESCAN S237- 0C on virtual tape

In <703bbfeef5f0ed49a39c1881618de6eead738...@mtb0120cp3xf08.ds.irsnet.gov>, on 05/14/2015 at 11:26 PM, Campbell Jay said: >Maybe I'm playing in the dinosaur bone yard... Was the tape created using, e.g., LBI? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: QAFF on JOBCLASS statement

In <874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1210a5...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net>, on 05/14/2015 at 02:09 PM, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM" said: >Apparently QAFF works for online commands only Yes, but th OP asked *why* QAFF works for online commands only >therefor IOW, it doesn't work because it d

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

In , on 05/13/2015 at 11:10 AM, Ed Gould said: >I have had to dig it up several times and it was never easy to find >the manual. I had one copy that always seem to loose itself. If you find it afain, scan it, including OCR, and sned it to bitsavers. >Ahh one time I had an issue with it and

Re: Notify for XMIT

In <5552693f.60...@aim.com>, on 05/12/2015 at 02:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Recently I discovered that if my 3270 OMVS session is hanging on >an INPUT prompt while I type a comand the arrival of an >unsolicited message steals the screen and l

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

In <009801d08848$c51a6a90$4f4f3fb0$@mcn.org>, on 05/06/2015 at 03:05 PM, Charles Mills said: >SYSTEM ABEND CODE 66D Are you attaching the command with SP 0 unshared and SP 78 shared? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Notify for XMIT

In <5553b800.4070...@copper.net>, on 05/13/2015 at 04:45 PM, Steve Thompson said: >Here is the question: What happens if SYS1.BRODCAST fills up? You lose messages. But why are you still using it? In the meantime, install Shmuel Golob's bradcast manager from the CBT tape. >How many (willing t

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its "terminal name"

In <036f01d08cd5$35873340$a09599c0$@mcn.org>, on 05/12/2015 at 10:00 AM, Charles Mills said: >Subject line pretty much says it all. No. What is a terminal name these days? >SMF30TSN or SMF30TID. They should match fields returned by GTTERM. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JO

Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?

In <55528a34.7070...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 05/13/2015 at 01:18 AM, "R.S." said: >It's cheaper than single tape cart. What capacity thumb drive is cheaper than a tape of the same capacity? >I can be 16GB or 32GB or 64GB if needed. I don't know what things are like in Poland, but periodica

Re: Primary allocation of a dataset

In <874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1210a5...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net>, on 05/13/2015 at 01:55 PM, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM" said: >I don't know if it is, but I would be surprised if it is, because >is useless information for the system. How is that relevant. The ystrem keeps ttrack of

Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?

In , on 05/11/2015 at 12:24 PM, "Tony's Outlook via Mozilla" said: >Seems easier. FSVO easier that includes unscheduled IPL's in the middle of production in order to deliver service. Personally I prefer less painful to easier. Put another way, it isn't easier if I have to clean up the collate

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

In , on 05/06/2015 at 04:48 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >Question: did I really need to do that? In your particular case, you could have just pushed the required lines onto the stack, assuming that SPACE is housebroken. If you need to generat subcommands based on the results of previous subco

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its "terminal name"

In <03a301d08cef$ad9c2bf0$08d483d0$@mcn.org>, on 05/12/2015 at 01:10 PM, Charles Mills said: >I did not know that TSO was "cognizant" of any IP address. VTIOC picks the IP address out of an optional SNA CV. If you're using a session manager, verify that it is configured to support this. --

Re: ASCE doc

In <9hrukahon3m0s32fm7kch65bkke8lm5...@4ax.com>, on 05/10/2015 at 05:46 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: >ASCE's Whoops! I read that as ASCRE, a macro. You are correct, of course, rrhat PoOps is the place to look for architectural features, except for the ones that IBM decides not to publish there,

Re: Notify for XMIT

In <555214c7.5050...@copper.net>, on 05/12/2015 at 10:57 AM, Steve Thompson said: >It seems to me, from years gone by, that if someone were to >message me via TSO XMIT, that the next time I caused an interrupt >(AID key of any kind), I would get notification that I needed to >do a RECEIVE

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

In <555264c6.6000...@us.ibm.com>, on 05/12/2015 at 04:38 PM, John Eells said: >That alternative seems as though it might be worth looking at. What about shipping software on USB data keys ("thumb drive")? They're still more expensive than tape, but the cost keeps droping. -- Shmuel (S

Re: Primary allocation of a dataset

In , on 05/06/2015 at 01:43 PM, Fred van der Windt said: >I want to retrieve the primary allocation of a dataset. You can't get that from the DSCB; the NVR has it for SMS datasets. There is no indication in the VTOC as to which extent came from the primary. The best that you can do is to look

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

In <045401d0878f$939c9510$bad5bf30$@mcn.org>, on 05/05/2015 at 04:59 PM, Charles Mills said: >Hmmm. I'm actually wishing to do this from within a command Please clarify. You wish to do which of these: 1. Write FO and BAR, each usable from the READY prompt, and to invokke BAR from FOO.

Re: Possible to LINK to other program of same name as one in storage?

In , on 05/09/2015 at 06:36 PM, Peter Relson said: >One never knows if a program is actually "running". That depend on what you mean by running. I beleive that the OP means[1] in an RB chain rather than dispatched to a CPU. While I consider it poor CM to use two different modules of the same

Re: Possible to LINK to other program of same name as one in storage?

In <554d2697.5040...@copper.net>, on 05/08/2015 at 05:11 PM, Steve Thompson said: >Strictly by LINK, probably. But if you use a DDNAME pointed to the >file you are interested in, and use the right options on LOAD, >you can get what you want in storage. LOAD will return the EPA and >you have

Re: Possible to LINK to other program of same name as one in storage?

In <03f801d089e7$6715ff90$3541feb0$@mcn.org>, on 05/08/2015 at 04:33 PM, Charles Mills said: >The system is loading FOO #1, which is the NORENT FOO. It's MVS's >problem. Au contraire, MVS is doing what it is supposed to do. Have you tried with ADRNAPF=alias? DE=BLDL-entry? >I'm also using LI

Re: Possible to LINK to other program of same name as one in storage?

In <03c901d089bf$68e4ac40$3aae04c0$@mcn.org>, on 05/08/2015 at 11:47 AM, Charles Mills said: >Am I correct in my impression that it is basically impossible to LINK >to a copy of a program from a specific library if a program of that >name is already in storage? No. >Specifically, if program

Re: Possible to LINK to other program of same name as one in storage?

In <554d0a4a.9040...@aim.com>, on 05/08/2015 at 01:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Does that presume the programmer is allowed and willing to link edit >FOO? No, but I doubt that in practice you wouls be allowe to update it at all if you weren't al

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

In <65d432a4-d912-4d32-926d-4c6e3b66e...@comcast.net>, on 05/06/2015 at 11:16 PM, Ed Gould said: >The TSO command to receive data IND$FILE? I don't recall ever seeing documentation on it, just documentation on things that used it. >but since it was never a supported program If you mean IND$

Re: IEFBR14 question

In <9028723543071507.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 05/07/2015 at 11:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >One might make the same argument about deleting migrated data sets >without recall because PGM=IEFBR14. No, becaue deleting schedulin

Re: Primary allocation of a dataset

In <554a6683.90...@us.ibm.com>, on 05/06/2015 at 03:07 PM, John Eells said: >At allocation time, the system converts anything other than tracks >to tracks, basically. No; the system records wehther allocation is in tracks or in cylinders so that it can correctly allocate secondary extents. F

Re: Primary allocation of a dataset

In , on 05/06/2015 at 03:20 PM, Terry Sambrooks said: >As several people have already alluded IT IS NOT POSSIBLE to >retrieve the Primary Request for SPACE as it IS NOT recorded in >the DSCB. That's true for non-SMS. What about the NVR? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Basic question on TSO commands and other executables

In <045401d0878f$939c9510$bad5bf30$@mcn.org>, on 05/05/2015 at 04:59 PM, Charles Mills said: >Hmmm. I'm actually wishing to do this from within a command I will >write. Why? It's easy enough, but if all you need is a subroutine then why go to he extra trouble? >Is there any reason I cannot u

Re: IEFBR14 question

In <5548dec9.30...@us.ibm.com>, on 05/05/2015 at 11:16 AM, John Eells said: >To be fair, IEFBR14 far predates IDCAMS and TSO. IDCAMS was likely >introduced with VSAM in DFEF in the 1970's, Earlier. >Before they were around, someone probably realized that <"something" to drive Allocation f

Re: ASCE doc

In <7211e8f2-9f23-4307-a521-610cd871e...@comcast.net>, on 05/05/2015 at 02:04 PM, michelbutz said: >I have been looking for documentation about ASCE I thought it was >in the Pops That should be the last place to look; it is an OS service and has nothing to do with the PoOps. -- Shmue

Re: IEFBR14 question

In , on 05/05/2015 at 10:28 AM, Scott Ford said: >Since I started this "question", so how is "one" to check for the >existence of datasets if we can't really trust IEFBR14 ? Trust IEFBR14 to do what? The function of IEFBR14 is to return with RC 0; only this and nothing more. That function has

Re: IEFBR14 question

In <9599862557710901.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 05/05/2015 at 09:10 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Has a patent been taken out on IEFBR14 (or its queer position in >MVS, OS390, z/OS)? In theory your application would be refused as prior art. In practice, who knows

Re: IEFBR14 question

In <5548ccca.2040...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 05/05/2015 at 03:59 PM, "R.S." said: >What did I miss? The ability to override PGM=. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care,

Re: IEFBR14 question

In <4961505431202836.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 05/05/2015 at 07:29 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >But it's inappropriate that the OS create a new data set when it >knows that it will be deleted immediately, never used. That's not cl

Re: IEFBR14 question

In , on 05/05/2015 at 07:26 AM, Peter Relson said: >I have heard that there were actually two APARs on IEFBR14. One >was to add setting the return code. The other was to mark the >module as reentrant. I've heard that there was an APAR because it didn't have an eye-catcher. If so, the eye ca

Re: IEFBR14 question

In , on 05/04/2015 at 10:02 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >if DSN is migrated The OP wrote "non-existent", not migrated. The message is appropriate for a new DASD dataset with no SPACE specification. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and J

Re: IEFBR14 question

In , on 05/04/2015 at 10:53 AM, Scott Ford said: >I just came across something I haven't seen. I am building some >canned JCL and I was testing a IEFBR14 step doing >disp=(mod,delete,delete) on non-existent datasets wanting to see the >return code passed back and saw this >IGD17045I Space

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

In , on 04/30/2015 at 02:21 PM, Timothy Sipples said: >. IBM did not (generally) recommend multiple JES3 >globals in a single Sysplex Still not PolyASP. PolyASMP wqould be running multiple globals or multiple locals withing the same MVS image, not just the same sysplex. Note: ASP supported i

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

In , on 04/30/2015 at 02:21 PM, Timothy Sipples said: >A quarter century is a long time to keep holding onto a ~41 year old >IT grudge. :-) I still hold a grudge for the way IBM handled TSO Data Set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT LIST and MERGE, to say nothing of the common TSO requirements for JES2

Re: FTP to IBM -- Problems?

In <1919f5.4a311897.42725...@aol.com>, on 04/29/2015 at 11:28 AM, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Yeah but this is rudimentary for network admins. Just put in an MX >record on the switches That's Mail Exchange; it's for SMTP, not FTP or HTTP. -- Shmue

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

In , on 04/28/2015 at 12:49 PM, Timothy Sipples said: >I disagree with the word "nothing." Read my response again. >Multiple LPARs often exist on "the same CPU," of course. They're different logical CPU's, and that doesn't make it PolyASP. >It is possible to have even a single LPAR with m

Re: New zPDT redbook

In <553d2449.4080...@gmail.com>, on 04/26/2015 at 06:45 PM, Vince Coen said: >That would be ANSI Cobol 545 Lvl2 as there does not appear to to be >Cobol F or E and all compilers actually came from MVT. COBOL E was still in OS/360 R21.8, but COBOL F was gone by 21.7; I don't have any of the i

Re: Yahoo thinks IBM-MAIN is spam

In <103212203.6330092.1430150509482.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>, on 04/27/2015 at 04:01 PM, Frank Swarbrick <002782105f5c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Any thoughts on how to fix this? Otherr than dropping Yahoo? Have you tried contacting them? Not that I expect them to care, bu

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

In , on 04/26/2015 at 11:54 AM, Mike Schwab said: >I thought JES3 can still spread workload over multiple LPARs? That has nothing to do with PolyASP, which was the ability to run a secondary ASP on the same CPU. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: New zPDT redbook

In <553cdc80.1040...@gmail.com>, on 04/26/2015 at 01:39 PM, Vince Coen said: >Please advise what else is available and how to do so. COBOL (E) and COBOL (F). >and how to do so. Same as COBOL (U); copy it from OS/360. But if you don't like U, you'll like the older ones even less. --

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

In <6kjpja91t3suoq1kjpghelh2pbbj13t...@4ax.com>, on 04/26/2015 at 08:40 AM, Clark Morris said: >What was lost? PolyASP. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Cong

Re: New zPDT redbook

In <55396928.8010...@gmail.com>, on 04/23/2015 at 10:50 PM, Vince Coen said: >Pity the only Cobol compiler is ANSI Cobol It isn't. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care,

Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

In , on 04/24/2015 at 11:17 AM, Tony Harminc said: >It seems a surprising loss of enerality given the elegant (and >long-standing) nature of the subsystem interface. To say nothing of a loss of functionality going from ASP to JES3. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT IS

Re: ENQ for the life of the job

In , on 04/21/2015 at 11:00 AM, Steff Gladstone said: >The obvious question that remains is: how does the operating >systen itself maintain a continuous ENQ over several job steps for >a dataset allocated in the first step with disp=(mod,pass)? The Initiator does the ENQ. -- Shmuel

Re: COBOL's NUMPROC compiler option

In <7935647633061500.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/20/2015 at 09:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >I'm a skeptic about Postel's Principle. Google for MBZ. Your point on F zones is well taken, but given the card heritage IBM may effec

Re: ENQ for the life of the job

In , on 04/20/2015 at 10:09 AM, John McKown said: >I wonder if it would be possible to do a directed ENQ of a SYSDSN >to the initiator TCB and then modify the SWA to "generate" the i >nternal information for a DD and place that as if it had been in >a DD in the JCL. Possible, yes. Easy or

Re: COBOL's NUMPROC compiler option

In <8918505894176310.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/20/2015 at 03:11 PM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >It is easy for us to fault the designers of System/360 and OS/360 >for not considering the future requirement for more than 16 MB.

Re: ENQ for the life of the job

In , on 04/20/2015 at 05:13 PM, Steff Gladstone said: >How do I use the ISGENQ macro in such a way that the ENQ lasts for >the life of the entire job (or several job steps) and not just for >the life of a single job-step? Cautiously and with trepidation. >Would specifying the TCB address of

Re: Standard IBM Enterprise COBOL Service to convert ASCII to EBCDIC

In <552bc59e.1010...@vse2pdf.com>, on 04/13/2015 at 09:33 AM, Tony Thigpen said: >Ed must work for the government, or a union shop. No place I ever >worked would have allowed such programmers to continue to be >employed. I've seen them in commercial, educational and government shops, but Ed

Re: Standard IBM Enterprise COBOL Service to convert ASCII to EBCDIC

In <985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c2368d57...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com>, on 04/13/2015 at 09:21 AM, "Farley, Peter x23353" said: >Please get off that ridiculously high systems programmer horse of >yours and join us here in the 21st century. You almost had me their, but it seems that you a

Re: Standard IBM Enterprise COBOL Service to convert ASCII to EBCDIC

In <2355787451595524.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/13/2015 at 04:41 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Simply, if you receive data, say x'0A0B0CF1F2F3', then how would >you see, programmatically, it is ASCII or EBCDIC? That isn't an ASCII issue, it's a part of the issu

Re: A New Performance Model

In <985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c2368d56...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com>, on 04/10/2015 at 10:39 AM, "Farley, Peter x23353" said: >"Agile" may work in the fluid web world, I don't know what Agile specifies, but I was involved in rapid prototyping and we most definitly had reviews (code an

Re: A New Performance Model

In , on 04/09/2015 at 01:26 PM, Timothy Sipples said: >How do YOU know it's "even more expensive"? How do I know that yopu exist? >You haven't articulated an inviolable physical constant, like some >theories in physics. Theories in Physics are provisional; evidence trumps theory.m >This is

Re: CLIST conversion from lowercase to uppercase

In <20150408092441.39cab...@m0005311.ppops.net>, on 04/08/2015 at 09:24 AM, Richard Pinion said: >First of all, I know I should use REXX. But my REXX skills are >not as proficient as my CLIST skills. Perhaps, but CLIST is laden with boobytraps. >the lowercase characters have been automatic

Re: A New Performance Model ?

In , on 04/08/2015 at 02:24 PM, Timothy Sipples said: >For example, before even getting to the IT aspects, there are many >possible scenarios when rolling out the new/modified business >functions late(r) is the most expensive option of all, even when >the programs are not as well optimized

Re: A New Performance Model ?

In <781413295.1670697.1428467165279.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>, on 04/08/2015 at 04:26 AM, David Mingee said: >I agree with Ed.  There are always cases where the effort and cost >might outweigh the benefit of tuning, but there are still many >cases where thereis cost savings. >From my pe

Re: Fw: IBM Destination z - Open-Source Support on IBM z Systems Platform

In <9909925785010044.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/03/2015 at 04:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Where I read: >A great example of this is Perl 5.8.7 is rather long in the tooth. Even under OS/2 I can do better than that, and it's

Re: Forbes: Nice Mainframe, How Do I Turn It On?

In <391985581.4403356.1427981707042.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>, on 04/02/2015 at 01:35 PM, Mark Regan <006f01c0dca1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >http://www.forbes.com/sites/adrianbridgwater/2015/04/02/nice-mainframe-how-the-hell-do-i-turn-it-on/ Every generation thinks that it

Re: Forbes: Nice Mainframe, How Do I Turn It On?

In , on 04/03/2015 at 07:12 AM, Mike Schwab said: >I know a construction firm in Springfield, IL. They have jobs >waiting to be worked on. hat do they pay? What are working conditions? What are benefits? Is there a real shortage of construction workers, or is the company simply not offering

Re: Forbes: Nice Mainframe, How Do I Turn It On?

In <3910647452015251.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/02/2015 at 10:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Generally the young boys/girls are too lazy or bored to work on a >farm, That may be how it looks to the owner. To an outsider, the obvious question is whether the own

Re: Environment scope (was: OT: Digital? Cloud? ... )

In <6862960757492308.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/31/2015 at 11:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Not only GLOBALV, but LINKs, ACCESSes, options set by CP SET and >CMS SET commands, spooling options (although CMS Pipelines >somewha

Re: migrating compiler versions

In , on 04/01/2015 at 09:59 AM, Ken MacKenzie said: >In the first release of COBOL 5, there was no AMODE(24) support. >That has now been changed but it has led to several S0C4's as >some of the compiler modules have not been "fixed". Compiler or library? I can understand needing generated

Re: dynamic allocation for tape using TSO in batch

In <2700199934746409.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/01/2015 at 02:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Why should the rules, or detection of the >condition, be different for DYNALLOC? Because it's dynamic. For static allocation the Initi

Re: Environment scope (was: OT: Digital? Cloud? ... )

In <6894540274965773.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/31/2015 at 09:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >In CMS the enviroment is absolutely global. Well, within that virtual machine[1], assuming you're referring to GLOBALV. [1] The lifet

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

In , on 03/30/2015 at 08:34 AM, John McKown said: >This is one main reason why I prefer the UNIX fork() philosophy >rather than "threading". That philosophy led to the insanity that a command can't pass back an environment variable to its caller. >But I still like the isolation of protect ke

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

In , on 03/30/2015 at 06:54 AM, John McKown said: >To me, one of the biggest pluses is the "hardware memory key". Better than nothing, and available before S/360 supported virtual memory, but inferior to other mechanisms. I'll take segment/ring-based protection any day. Even block relocation

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainfra...

In <39bc7.33e0233e.424a7...@aol.com>, on 03/30/2015 at 05:36 AM, Ed Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Be interesting to see a survey of biggest advances, or biggest >blunders since we started. Sometimes they're the same, e.g., Project Stretch may have been the mo

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

In <20150329212721.GB25599@dlc-dt>, on 03/29/2015 at 05:27 PM, "David L. Craig" said: >Schmuel That's Shmuel. And don't forget Tom Kern. >are any neurons being triggered Giss could only run VM on the 470V/6; when they shipped that to GMSF at GSFC, they were left running a single instance of

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

In <551602fc.10...@yahoo.com>, on 03/27/2015 at 09:25 PM, Thomas Kern <0041d919e708-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Not only did GISS have a 360/95 (running a special operating system >called SSS/360) but also an Amdahl 470V6 running VM/370 R3 with 3 >VMs of SSS/360. Don't forget

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

In <20150327175138.GA3765@dlc-dt>, on 03/27/2015 at 01:51 PM, "David L. Craig" said: >The plaque said it's from the Goddard Space Flight Center, which >was in building 3/14 and under the Flight Dynamics Directorate, My recollection is that they had a 360/91 + 360/75 and that the Goddard Inst

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

In <0964724ce2194f049dd3ef12ce76c...@exmbxprd01.ad.ufl.edu>, on 03/27/2015 at 02:15 PM, "Nims,Alva John (Al)" said: >Now, when I originally responded, I had done a search on www.ibm.com >of 360/191 and it did return a hit for a 360/191, so there must have >been a 191 model at some point. Not

Re: mhvr...@us.ibm.com?

In <5612719574407421.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/27/2015 at 08:19 AM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >I haven't had a need to send email to mhvr...@us.ibm.com recently, >but I just tried to ping us.ibm.com and couldn't find the IP >add

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE

In , on 03/27/2015 at 01:00 AM, J O Skip Robinson said: >1.Rigorously pull the latest and greatest HOLDDATA early and > often. We just installed a V2R1 maintenance bundle that would > otherwise have included the same PE PTF except that it was > blocked by an ERROR hold. OP redid his entire

mhvr...@us.ibm.com?

I've been getting DNS failures trying to send to mhvr...@us.ibm.com; has anybody else ad that problem? Are the name servers down? Authoritative answers can be found from: ibm.com nameserver = usw2.akam.net ibm.com nameserver = asia3.akam.net ibm.com nameserver = eur5.akam.net ibm.com nam

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

In , on 03/26/2015 at 12:48 PM, "Nims,Alva John (Al)" said: >The picture is not very good though. A google search of "360/195" >got a few hits that may support that the ancestor is a 360/19x 19x? The only 3-digit S/360 model was 195. Did you mean 360/9x? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Setting up a new user for OS/390 and Z/OS

In <5513453e.4080...@acm.org>, on 03/25/2015 at 06:31 PM, Joel Ewing said: >Assuming that for "JCL" he really meant "batch job", this can of >course There is no "of course". >RACF-SPECIAL That won't work very well if he's not using RACF. >issuing RACF commands Even if he is using RACF, d

Re: Setting up a new user for OS/390 and Z/OS

In <7426932741606214.wa.vbcoengmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/25/2015 at 01:21 PM, Vince Coen said: >Anyone have the JCL to set up a new user for TSO and other services >for both OS/390 and Z/OS. There is no "the JCL" for that; it depnds on the security setup, the privileges you want the us

Re: Retrieve unallocated space numbers?

In , on 03/24/2015 at 04:51 PM, Mike Schwab said: >IDCAMS DCOLLECT by volume into a file. LSPACE Macro for in program >use. Both of those require that you first determine what the volunmes in the storage group are. I doubt that's what the OP had in mind. Is there an open requirement for a se

Re: Retrieve unallocated space numbers?

In <0c0601d0667b$af430540$0dc90fc0$@mcn.org>, on 03/24/2015 at 02:44 PM, Charles Mills said: >Am I the only person who thinks it is needlessly difficult finding >things in the DFSMS documentation? No. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Clarification Of STORAGE OBTAIN Parameters

In , on 03/22/2015 at 05:43 PM, "Blaicher, Christopher Y." said: >yes No. Only his first statment is correct. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S87

Re: Clarification Of STORAGE OBTAIN Parameters

In <20150322.133217.719...@webmail11.dca.untd.com>, on 03/22/2015 at 05:32 PM, "esst...@juno.com" said: >When the SP parameter is specified for Common Storage SUbPool, it >is My understanding, the Requesting program does not need to be in >Supervisor State Key 0 to issue this form of STORAGE

Re: RDJFCB

In <550c0fc5.6060...@t-online.de>, on 03/20/2015 at 01:17 PM, Bernd Oppolzer said: >- I could decide, if it is really a DSN that is allocated to this >DDNAME (and not, for example, DD * or SYSOUT) There are flags in the TIOT entry to tell you the type of allocation. Note; just because it is,

Re: SMPE CSI Name Change

In <005a01d062c0$5f8e5270$1eaaf750$@q.com>, on 03/19/2015 at 08:45 PM, retired mainframer said: >There is no problem with the three zones in the same CSI dataset. There are operational issues. There have been discussions here in the past over the tradeoffs. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: SMPE CSI Name Change

In , on 03/20/2015 at 08:24 AM, venkat kulkarni said: >We just installing CICS 5.2 using CBPDO and somehow we made mistake >in JCL and now, target and distribution and global csi has same >name, which is wrong. It's perfectly legal, just not what you wanted. >Also SMPE.CICS.GLOBAL.CSI exis

Re: RDJFCB

In <2055228118927647.wa.walt.farrellgmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/19/2015 at 07:07 PM, Walt Farrell said: >I don't think you can safely get dsnames for allocated ddnames just >by chasing control blocks. Why not? >That _can_ work with if the system is configured to have SWA below >the lin

Re: RDJFCB

In , on 03/19/2015 at 04:56 PM, Scott Ford said: >Either with EXTRACT or RDJFCB find the dataset name EXTRACT can not retrieve a DSN, Also, can your allocation be a concatenation? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: RDJFCB

In , on 03/19/2015 at 03:49 PM, Sam Siegel said: >The SCV99() function is the one needed to retrieve dataset name from >the DDname. It's one way; there's nothing wrong with using RDJFCB. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

In <0104089862784799.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/18/2015 at 08:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:16:19 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:30:33

Re: Cross Memory Services with AXSET and SSAR.

In <164647e1e592489188a6c0f3ae25b...@s000exnp4.sm-ms.lan>, on 03/18/2015 at 07:29 AM, "Cannaerts, Jan" said: >Alas it will never do what I want it to, as we both most likely >know, this type of cross memory access is restricted to memory >that is paged in. Swapped in; a PC routine is allowe

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

In <0026035554378320.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/18/2015 at 12:02 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:30:33 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>>SMP/E has a head start: the DDDEF

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

In , on 03/17/2015 at 09:52 AM, John McKown said: >Of course, I don't know of a _good_ method to ensure memory >protection from a "rogue" program which runs in the same address >space as a trusted program. Follow the rules for RSAPF=YES: Don't use user key storage Don't share subpool z

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

In , on 03/17/2015 at 01:01 PM, John McKown said: >SVC 3 (EXIT) does not return to R15 in the RSA, Of course not >but (I think, likely more) And documented. >Now that I think on it, one could "mess up" the "rogue" programs >attempts to modify an RSA Don't go there. Run in a system key and

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

In <0281165305245017.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 03/17/2015 at 12:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >SMP/E has a head start: the DDDEF list could be passed to the child >process, And those allocations that are in the JCL? -- Sh

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

In , on 03/17/2015 at 04:12 PM, Jerry Criste said: >KBMS, has been unsupported since 2000, and is critical to the >business. Why didn't you replace it while you had time? >Here's some detail pulled from Fault Analyzer: It prints an ABEND code without a reason code? That makes the summary

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