Re: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-02-14 Thread Salva Carrasco
When we started 5.1 migration, we obtained the Local-variables CEEDUMP for batch but not for CICS. I remember opened a PMR and the issue was the lack of SYS1.CCSLIB in RPL concatenation. Check it in LNKLST & RPL. Regards, salva.

AW: Re: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-02-08 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> URL to the APAR please? Google cannot find it. Sorry, could not find it myself from home right before posting. Was looking it up from the PMR. Will check from the office tomorrow and post. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For

Re: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-02-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
COBOL5 and CEEDUMP >Anyway, TEST is much improved with COBOL V5/V6, we put the Debug data >in a NOLOAD class segment in the Program Object, so that it is always >available, always in sync with the load, and never takes up memory at runtime >unless it is needed. An example of when

AW: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-02-08 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Anyway, TEST is much improved with COBOL V5/V6, we put the Debug data in a NOLOAD class segment in the Program Object, so that it is always available, always in sync with the load, and never takes up memory at runtime unless it is needed. An example of when it is needed is when a CEEDUMP is

A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-02-07 Thread Tom Ross
>A further question: the CEEDUMP we receive in COBOL 5 lacks a dump of the >WORKING STORAGE SECTION. Can this be remedied by changing compile-time or >run-time parameters? I know this is old, not sure if it got answered or not... To get WORKING-STORAGE (and LOCAL-STORAGE) date items listed in

Re: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-01-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
age- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP > > It would help to know wha

Re: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-01-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
t; To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP > > A further question: the CEEDUMP we receive in COBOL 5 lacks a dump of the > WORKING STORAGE SECTION. Can this be remedied by changing compile-time or > run-time parameters? > > Please advis

A further question regarding COBOL5 and CEEDUMP

2017-01-26 Thread Steff Gladstone
wrote: > Are there any whizzes out there who specialize in reading and deciphering > CEEDUMPs? > I have a question for you. In a COBOL5 CEEDUMP, how do I locate the > *index* of an array (i.e., an array that is defined with "indexed by") in > the dump? > >

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:58 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump > > > >> And as for the

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>> And as for the "standard way" to cheat the Cobol table restriction (I'm no -- Peter Hunkeler >> Cobol programmer, sorry): Cheating is cheating. Shudder But it explains >> at >> least why IBM agreed to change the code. Thanks. >> > >Not cheating, accomplishing a business need despite

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:28 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump > > > >A frequent,

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Allan Staller
Last I heard, SSRANGE was deprecated for production use due to high overhean. Yes, a deliberate area left specifically to catch any overflow and for no other purpose, similar to a patch-area. Technique arises before SSRANGE exists. If SSRANGE were subsequently used, it would/could catch the

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Bill Woodger
Yes, a deliberate area left specifically to catch any overflow and for no other purpose, similar to a patch-area. Technique arises before SSRANGE exists. If SSRANGE were subsequently used, it would/could catch the problem, but it is not as simple as the APAR text makes out (from memory of the

Re: AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Bill Woodger
There is a conflation of two issues, with the first being in two parts. Issue 1) Part a) Can't define enough storage for a table due to COBOL limits. This is only an issue for "old" programs, where limits for table-size were imposed by the compiler. The "expedient" approach was to define

AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>A frequent, even standard way to get past the size limit of a COBOL array, or >more appropriately table, was to define more "empty" space after it. Since >subscript bounds checking was always turned off for performance reasons, you >could effectively address substantially larger than the

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gibney, Dave wrote: >A frequent, even standard way to get past the size limit of a COBOL array, or >more appropriately table, was to define more "empty" space after it. Since >subscript bounds checking was always turned off for performance reasons, you >could effectively address substantially

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
n the size limit of any single 01 item. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedu

Re: AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Woodger
See also here, where a policy-shift was revealed (towards the end of the thread) to consider replicating V4 results where reasonable. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/forums/html/topic?id=0f54483b-6f83-441d-a5fc-22a3d333dddf=25 Ironically this has included deliberate replication of

Re: AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Woodger
Unfortunately an old technique was still in use, and hit many clients. See here for some detail: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/forums/html/topic?id=c476d2c9-0d4e-4073-97c5-6384d8f381c0=25 -- For IBM-MAIN

AW: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>For APAR PI65115, it looks like a separate APAR PI68274, was opened for Cobol >6.1 >If you look at the information page for PI65115: >http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1PI65115 Out of interest I had a look at what this is all about, and I must admit I'm baffled. What does that

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Woodger
The full "Fix list for Enterprise COBOL for z/OS" for V5+ is here: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27041164 This is segregated by compiler release/version and also includes the runtime (Language Environment).

AW: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Roland Schiradin
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Januar 2017 20:39 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump Hello everyone, Does anyone know if this APAR is available for COBOL 5.2 and if it is available for COBOL 6.1? I mean, would a specific APAR even be need for COBOL 6.1? Or would this APAR (PI65115

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cameron Conacher Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COBOL5 and ceedump Hello everyone, Does anyone know

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-09 Thread Cameron Conacher
moved to the top of the > associated storage area. > > HTH Roland > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im > Auftrag von Steff Gladstone > Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2017 17:51 > An: IBM-MAIN@LIST

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-08 Thread Bill Woodger
On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 18:51:14 +0200, Steff Gladstone <steff.gladst...@gmail.com> wrote: "In a COBOL5 CEEDUMP, how do I locate the *index* of an array (i.e., an array that is defined with "indexed by") in >the dump?" If you consult the "

AW: AW: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-08 Thread Roland Schiradin
: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2017 19:24 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: AW: COBOL5 and ceedump Would be nice to know the APAR. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin

Re: AW: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-08 Thread Martin Packer
2017 17:48 Subject: AW: COBOL5 and ceedump Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Hi Steff, depending on your service level the index is defined in front of the array. Look at this APAR text Starting with COBOL V5.1, index-names were located in memo

AW: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-08 Thread Roland Schiradin
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im Auftrag von Steff Gladstone Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2017 17:51 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: COBOL5 and ceedump Are there any whizzes out there who specialize in reading and deciphering CEEDUMPs? I have a question for you. In a COBOL5

Re: COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-08 Thread Mike Schwab
The offset should be in the compiler listing. On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Steff Gladstone <steff.gladst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are there any whizzes out there who specialize in reading and deciphering > CEEDUMPs? > I have a question for you. In a COBOL5 CEEDUMP,

COBOL5 and ceedump

2017-01-08 Thread Steff Gladstone
Are there any whizzes out there who specialize in reading and deciphering CEEDUMPs? I have a question for you. In a COBOL5 CEEDUMP, how do I locate the *index* of an array (i.e., an array that is defined with "indexed by") in the dump? Thanks in advance, Steff