Re: Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Jousma, David
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please wou

Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please would you examine it and support of relevant for you. https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-sy

Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please would you examine it and support of relevant for you. Thanks Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-12-01 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ken Smith Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I'd still like to know how this works. What's in your master cat? What's in your sysres cat?

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-12-01 Thread Ken Smith
- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al) > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:44 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > > We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Edward Gould
-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:33 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: Catalogs in

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
VS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Cat

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >The rule for IT is much like the rule for life: as soon as you delete/discard >something, you will need it the next day. ;-) Next day? Aw, come on! In IT it is wayayayayayaya too long in the future. I rather expect that need within 15 minutes ... ;-) ... or while you

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread John Eells
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I have to admit that locating MCAT on sysres avoids one step that we need to take. We run seven 'sysplexes' (some monoplex) that do not share any resources including MCAT. When we install a new release, there are often new sysres data sets that need to be cataloged on a

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
DU Subject: (External):Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX Agreed, way too much risk. We don’t swap master cat's at all either. No reason to, except maybe those shops that cannot fit the entire SYSRES on one volume, so you have the issue where DSN A is cataloged on the first volume of the set pr

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Jousma, David
546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX As noted earlier in this

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread John Eells
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: As noted earlier in this thread, sysres datasets should be cataloged with volser ** and unit . That tells the system to look on the currently IPLed sysres regardless of volume name. BTW I don't subscribe to the floating MCAT strategy. Our master catalog lives a

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-28 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
iginal Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > > " Prior to this job I worked at a shop w

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Smith
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > > " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a > single system to up

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-22 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
t: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex. The master catalogs were not shared , I think I would put forth

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-22 Thread Allan Staller
ubject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master catalog in not shared. Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex. The master catalogs were not shared , I think I would put for

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:44:19 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: >I would put forth one big reason for not sharing the master catalog, >would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS upgrades, >there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed from >one release to the next an

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Travis Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention of using a single shared master catalog in the manuals. It doesn't mean I was looking in the corre

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Travis Bream
order for those data sets to be viewed on other LPAR's than the LPAR we create them on we must catalog them on each system. I would imagine that this is analogous to the processes involved with multiple master catalogs or shared master catalogs in

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Srivastava, Rajesh K
ajesh -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Travis Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific menti

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
By using INDIRECT CATALOG you can use different SYSRES Sets, but the same SYS1.** names. Lizette -Original Message- >From: Lizette Koehler >Sent: Nov 21, 2016 3:10 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > >So the answers are > >

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
onday, November 21, 2016 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention of using a single shared master catalog in the manuals. It doesn't mean I was looking in the correct manuals it

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Separate but equal? Or are they running from a common SYSRES Set? Other??? Lizette -Original Message- >From: Travis >Sent: Nov 21, 2016 1:53 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > >We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there see

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Travis
I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention of using a single shared master catalog in the manuals. It doesn't mean I was looking in the correct manuals it just means that what I had been told may not be 100% accurate. The manuls do seem to IMPLY that a shared master

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
, 2016 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate about using a single shared master catalog or multiple master catalogs on each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared master catalog but

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Travis Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Catalogs in a SYSPLEX We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debat

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Feller, Paul
Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Travis Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 14:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there see

Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Travis
We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate about using a single shared master catalog or multiple master catalogs on each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared master catalog but our CE has been advocating multiple catalogs. What are the pros and cons