Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2014-01-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 660c973e-4a5c-4e6c-9e94-3301602f9...@yahoo.com, on 12/31/2013 at 04:10 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Is the DCF format for Book Manager available ? The documentation of the BookManager/BUILD tag set is available; the macros that implement it are copyrighted. Similarly for

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2014-01-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caarmm9qnrw0pvarh6ta0p2duevngxkfrfajczuwwjctzjx3...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/31/2013 at 03:40 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I'm not aware of any dispute. ? The OP Mentioned the core Bookie code. Out of the blue See above. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

DCF: Can it live again?

2014-01-02 Thread Bob Rinda
Tony is correct. Softcopy Reader consists of a Java GUI wrapped around (via JNI) the platform-specific binaries which access the proprietary BookManager document format. The Shelf Organizer component of Softcopy Reader contains limited BookManager-like support for indexed extended shelves of

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAArMM9SSRtTZ=YtZ1J=061vX2f8pwMf=eeasizbwkllmacv...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/30/2013 at 03:29 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: It seems plausible that at least some of the code would be common with other platform implementations. Are you talking about BookManager/READ? That's not

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 December 2013 14:34, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: on 12/30/2013 at 03:29 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: It seems plausible that at least some of the code would be common with other platform implementations. Are you talking about BookManager/READ?

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 December 2013 16:10, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Tony, Is the DCF format for Book Manager available ? So someone could rewrite code to read it and process it ? Not that I know of. That's really what I'd like IBM to provide, but I think it's unlikely. Presumably it could be

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-31 Thread Scott Ford
Tony, For sure. Surprising IBM doesn't want to release a format so a ISV can develop a new or better product for Book Manager, but who am I a mere mortal... Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Dec 31, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Tony Harminc

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caarmm9qj3myeauuvhm0dmhx-cpqm2ayso3qc9anon5kznbc...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/29/2013 at 06:03 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I imagine it's written in C, since it runs on Windows and Linux on i86, Cite? There are BookManager products on windoze, but I'm not aware of any that accept

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On 30 December 2013 08:25, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: on 12/29/2013 at 06:03 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I imagine it's written in C, since it runs on Windows and Linux on i86, Cite? There are BookManager products on windoze, but I'm not aware of

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:40:22 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: Now since IBM has killed off Softcopy Reader and friends, maybe they'd like to release the core Bookie code as open source, as they did for APL\360 and OORexx. Heh... So that we could run it on Hercules? Or, is it (even worse) PL/S? --

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 December 2013 09:31, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Now since IBM has killed off Softcopy Reader and friends, maybe they'd like to release the core Bookie code as open source, as they did for APL\360 and OORexx. Heh... So that we could run it on Hercules? Or, is it (even

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-29 Thread Charles Mills
Java I thought ... Charles Composed on a mobile: please excuse my brevity Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 29 December 2013 09:31, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Now since IBM has killed off Softcopy Reader and friends, maybe they'd like to release the core Bookie code as

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 December 2013 18:17, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Java I thought ... No - as I said earlier, the Java versions of Softcopy Reader et al are just wrappers. The real work gets done in platform-specific executable code in DLLs or UNIXy shared objects. I haven't looked, but I'd be

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-28 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:16:37 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: Do you mean this Java-based version? http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000251 Not likely I would think - that was bloody awful under Linux. IBM obviously believed in that other Java mantra - write once, run nowhere.

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: Do you mean this Java-based version? http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000251 Page is dated 2005. Softcopy Reader for Linux V3.7 is dated 2007. But I must be fair: One of the pre-requisites is RedHat Linux 9.0 or later, but ... ... latest stable version

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 December 2013 00:16, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: Do you mean this Java-based version? http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000251 Thing is, it's not really Java based. It's a Java wrapper for (presumably) the same old core binaries for Intel that the Windows

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 435b77ba27fc254099b1763e498def664ca...@va1exc02.snaads.sinenomine.net, on 04/16/2008 at 09:31 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net said: The key to what I want is the Bookmaster tag set, From what you wrote further on, you really mean BookManager; the BookManager/BUILD tag set is a

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-27 Thread zMan
I think you just answered your own question... On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Whatever happened to the JAVA Bookie? I tried it on a new Win 95 machine and it was atrocious. It would start then go away then a few minutes later it would come up and

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2013-12-27 Thread Timothy Sipples
Do you mean this Java-based version? http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000251 Timothy Sipples GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com