, January 16, 2015 5:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Dataset PACK profile now PDSE's
W dniu 2015-01-16 o 03:55, Joel Ewing pisze:
> [...]
> PDSEs were originally also restricted to 65535 tracks per volume, but
> I notice that restriction was relieved at least by z/
W dniu 2015-01-16 o 03:55, Joel Ewing pisze:
[...]
PDSEs were originally also restricted to 65535 tracks per volume, but I
notice that restriction was relieved at least by z/OS 1.10. It's
probable that even 3390-27's would have been large enough to have
allowed our installation to comfortably co
On 01/15/2015 06:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:31:44 -0600, Joel Ewing wrote:
>
>> On 01/15/2015 03:29 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Joel Ewing wrote:
--SNIP---
If a PDSE library could hav
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:31:44 -0600, Joel Ewing wrote:
>On 01/15/2015 03:29 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Joel Ewing wrote:
>>> --SNIP---
>>> If a PDSE library could have been multi-volume, that might have been one
>>> path
On 01/15/2015 03:29 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Joel Ewing wrote:
>> --SNIP---
>> If a PDSE library could have been multi-volume, that might have been one
>> path to eliminate our requirement for PACK.
>>
>> --
> Joel:
> I
On Jan 15, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Joel Ewing wrote:
--SNIP---
If a PDSE library could have been multi-volume, that might have
been one
path to eliminate our requirement for PACK.
--
Joel:
I could SWEAR that in one of the announcements in the las
On 01/14/2015 06:33 PM, Dan wrote:
> I have a strange memory of a previous thread about ISPF PACKing (probably pre
> 1995).
>
> I seem to recall someone from IBM (in the ISPF area) posting a query about
> the use of the ISPF PACK option. I believe they were hoping to remove the
> function.
> I
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:33:11 -0600, Dan wrote:
>I have a strange memory of a previous thread about ISPF PACKing (probably pre
>1995).
>
>I seem to recall someone from IBM (in the ISPF area) posting a query about the
>use of the ISPF PACK option. I believe they were hoping to remove the
>functi
I have a strange memory of a previous thread about ISPF PACKing (probably pre
1995).
I seem to recall someone from IBM (in the ISPF area) posting a query about the
use of the ISPF PACK option. I believe they were hoping to remove the function.
I've searched the archives but can't seem to find a
In <54a2ddaa.2070...@acm.org>, on 12/30/2014
at 11:15 AM, Joel Ewing said:
>I don't see any field so indicated in the basic PDS directory entry,
It doesn't belong there.
Have you compared the user data for two members, one packed and one
not?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
lmartin
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Subject: Re: Dataset PACK profile
On 2014-12-30, at 15:54, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
> I am not going to respond about the ISPF PACK option, that has been answered
> by posts already.
>
> I would like to add so
On 2014-12-30, at 15:54, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
> I am not going to respond about the ISPF PACK option, that has been answered
> by posts already.
>
> I would like to add some information about the use of PIPEs in JCL and
> otherwise.
>
> #1 There is a product that I think it can still be
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Subject: Re: Dataset PACK profile
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 08:11:37 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>You can do internet searches on ISPF PACK FORMAT and find many entries on it.
&
On 12/30/2014 04:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> In <54a23cd9.6040...@acm.org>, on 12/29/2014
>at 11:49 PM, Joel Ewing said:
>
>> The problem is not that you can't already recognize on a
>> member-by-member level whether or not data is PACKED.
>
> Isn't there a flag in the directory
In <54a23cd9.6040...@acm.org>, on 12/29/2014
at 11:49 PM, Joel Ewing said:
>The problem is not that you can't already recognize on a
>member-by-member level whether or not data is PACKED.
Isn't there a flag in the directory entry?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
If you consider turning PACK ON off as was suggested, consider the ISPF
configuration utility establishing site wide defaults.
We went for that option after a TWS administrator turned PACK ON for some JCL
production libraries.
Guy
On 12/29/2014 10:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:13:30 -0600, Joel Ewing wrote:
>>
>> "SWITCH IT OFF" may not be a trivial thing to do if you are talking
>> about a PDS used by multiple users. The edit default for "PACKED", like
>> a number of ISPF edit parameters, is not mai
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:13:30 -0600, Joel Ewing wrote:
>
>"SWITCH IT OFF" may not be a trivial thing to do if you are talking
>about a PDS used by multiple users. The edit default for "PACKED", like
>a number of ISPF edit parameters, is not maintained in one place but in
>potentially-dataset-unique
In <9653880694947196.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on
12/29/2014
at 11:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said:
>If it's well enough documented one might write a filter to support
>othe applications.
I suspect that there are 3rd party utilities th
On 12/29/2014 03:54 AM, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2014-12-29 o 07:50, mf db pisze:
>> What happens internally when this feature is ON ? Instructions wise any
>> change happens internally ?
>>
>
> PACK ON means some kind of text compression. It is transparent to the
> ISPF editor (you always see unpacke
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 08:11:37 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>You can do internet searches on ISPF PACK FORMAT and find many entries on it.
>You can go to www.ibm.com and search on ISPF PACK and get a lot of information
>
>You can go to ISPF and in the EDIT panel press PF1 (HELP) and find informatio
format datasets.
Lizette
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Subject: Dataset PACK profile
Hi
Just trying to understand the importance of setting
W dniu 2014-12-29 o 07:50, mf db pisze:
What happens internally when this feature is ON ? Instructions wise any
change happens internally ?
PACK ON means some kind of text compression. It is transparent to the
ISPF editor (you always see unpacked content), but it cannot be
recognized by othe
If the PACK is on, you can only read it with ISPF. It can't be read
by any other process.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:50 AM, mf db wrote:
> What happens internally when this feature is ON ? Instructions wise any
> change happens internally ?
> On 29 Dec 2014 12:10, "nitz-...@gmx.net" wrote:
>
>>
What happens internally when this feature is ON ? Instructions wise any
change happens internally ?
On 29 Dec 2014 12:10, "nitz-...@gmx.net" wrote:
> > Just trying to understand the importance of setting a PACK ON on the pds
> > member profile.
> >
> > What will be the impact if it is set ON in p
> Just trying to understand the importance of setting a PACK ON on the pds
> member profile.
>
> What will be the impact if it is set ON in parmlib members ?
I once had a customer who had accidentally turned it on in MSTJCLxx. The IPL
failed miserably. I imagine the same thing happens if you use
Hi
Just trying to understand the importance of setting a PACK ON on the pds
member profile.
What will be the impact if it is set ON in parmlib members ?
Any advise or suggestions are highly appreciated.
Peter
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