Re: AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-03 Thread Edward Finnell
_ I certify I have created a HLQ on z/OS with Db2.                      Signed,                      _                      from the Offices of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe  In a message dated 11/3/2017 1:13:58 AM Central Standard Time, dcrayf...@gmail.com writes:   makes s

Re: AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-03 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> > The rebranding of MQ from MQ Series to Websphere MQ to IBM MQ kind of > makes sense. But "Db2" looks like a typo! IBM's marketing executives > have really scraped the barrel with that one ;) > It looks to me like those "corrections" that pseudo intelligent automatic spelling checkers often

Re: AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread David Crayford
On 3/11/2017 2:24 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) > Also lowercase in z/VM, z/VSE, and z/TPF. For now, at least. The future is not fully predictable. :-) When things were rebranded to x..., i..., p..., and z..., IBM at least had a story to tell. N

AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>>The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) > >Also lowercase in z/VM, z/VSE, and z/TPF. For now, at least. The future is not >fully predictable. :-) When things were rebranded to x..., i..., p..., and z..., IBM at least had a story to tell. Nowadays marketing seem to be allowed to do usel

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Martin Packer
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/11/2017 14:22 Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Martin, Yes, but I think that virtual storage limitations drove some of the function separation. For example the tablespace and index VSAM clusters are al

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
: Thursday, November 2, 2017 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Db2 virtual storage is a long and complicated story but DBM1 is far and away the biggest consumer - so I think separation of functions is a more likely story than just virtual storage

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 4:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS IMS DB/DC was MVS. The DC part was never available on DOS/VS or VSE, the interface was CICS on the VSE platform. So DL/I was the data management layer and the APIs / Call

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Martin Packer
ttps://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 From: Mohammad Khan To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/11/2017 13:37 Subject:Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:30:21 +1100, Wayne Bicker

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Mohammad Khan
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:30:21 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > >Why DB2 has so many address spaces is probably because of the IMS heritage. >Other (simpler but equally effective DBMS) manage on a single address >spaceI wish... > I believe this was due to the size limitation of 31-bit address

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread David Crayford
On 2/11/2017 5:30 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Why DB2 has so many address spaces is probably because of the IMS heritage. Other (simpler but equally effective DBMS) manage on a single address spaceI wish... Didn't you mean Db2, Wayne? ;)

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Edward Finnell
Yeah easy. ===>c 'DSN' 'CSQ' all   Why is he shaking his head? Honey, where did I leave the buggy whip?   In a message dated 11/2/2017 5:18:54 AM Central Standard Time, kees.verno...@klm.com writes:   I was told, that if you took DB2 V3, renamed all DSN strings to CSQ, you had the first QM versi

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> > IBM recycled the log manager of IMS into DB2 and MQ seems to have very > similar topology. > I was told, that if you took DB2 V3, renamed all DSN strings to CSQ, you had the first QM version. Kees. For information, services and offe

Re: Db2 address spaces was: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Martin Packer
nes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 From: Wayne Bickerdike To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/11/2017 09:30 Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IMS DB/DC was MVS. The DC part was never available o

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
IMS DB/DC was MVS. The DC part was never available on DOS/VS or VSE, the interface was CICS on the VSE platform. So DL/I was the data management layer and the APIs / Call interface were almost identical on both VSE and MVS. As a PL/1 jockey in the 1970's at IBM we coded mainly batch IMS (Call PLIT

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
Walt Farrell wrote: >The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) Also lowercase in z/VM, z/VSE, and z/TPF. For now, at least. The future is not fully predictable. :-) Timothy Sipples IT Archit

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS (21)

2017-11-01 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 17:17:16 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >The b is lowercase, but the Z is now uppercase. Have a look: > >https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/db2/db2-for-zos/ > >https://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) -- Walt ---

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS (21)

2017-11-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
On > Behalf Of Timothy Sipples > Sent: 01 November, 2017 10:17 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS (21) > > The b is lowercase, but the Z is now uppercase. Have a look: > > https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/db2/db2-for-zos/

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS (21)

2017-11-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
The b is lowercase, but the Z is now uppercase. Have a look: https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/db2/db2-for-zos/ https://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Indust

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
r VM as well was > it QBE(???). re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#27 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#28 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS all the original sql/relational was done on vm/145 and then System/R technology transfer to Endicott for SQL/DS on both

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Edward Gould
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > Getting closer... there was something called "DL1", or maybe it was > styled "DL/I" like PL/I. It was part of IMS, although it could be > adapted or something to CICS and batch. Also, IMS I think was > semi-organized into two parts: IMS/DB

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
;Hey Karl, are we every going to upgrade to JES3?" - actual > question). re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#27 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS more trivia ... my wife served stint in the gburg JES group ... one of the catchers for ASP to turn into JES3 ... then was one of the authors

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) writes: > The name change was much bandied about at SHARE in Providence. I for > one have gotten over my indignation and am ready to move on. If you > really want to be offended by an assault on the sensibilities, how > about the fact that there never was

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Chris Hoelscher
ssion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS On 10/31/2017 01:32 PM, Karl S Huf wrote: > That explains why OS/2 took off and is the stalwart of

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Steve Thompson
On 10/31/2017 01:32 PM, Karl S Huf wrote: That explains why OS/2 took off and is the stalwart of x86 operating systems today. :) Yes, IBM officially rebranded DB2 to Db2 because . . . that's what they do (apologies to GEICO). At least it's still pronounced the same so that's at least one less

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Karl S Huf
; > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Walt Farrell > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:13 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: (External):Re: Db2! was: NODE.j

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Isaac Yassin
t: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Importance: High Getting closer... there was something called "DL1", or maybe it was styled "DL/I" like PL/I. It was part of IMS, although it could be adapted or something t

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Steve Smith
Getting closer... there was something called "DL1", or maybe it was styled "DL/I" like PL/I. It was part of IMS, although it could be adapted or something to CICS and batch. Also, IMS I think was semi-organized into two parts: IMS/DB and IMS/DC. All-in-all, a plausible case for the "2" in dB2.

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:30:54 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >The name change was much bandied about at SHARE in Providence. I for one have >gotten over my indignation and am ready to move on. If you really want to be >offended by an assault on the sensibilities, how about the fact that there

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
DU Subject: (External):Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:40 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: >> What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result >> in my SQL SELET... Come on! >Did you notice the ® as

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
ject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:40 -0400, Gord Tomlin > wrote: > > >On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: > >> What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same > result in my SQL SELET... Come on! > >Did you

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:40 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: >> What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result >> in my SQL SELET... Come on! >Did you notice the ® associated with Db2®? That's a sure sign that IBM >and its lawyers

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result in my SQL SELET... Come on! Did you notice the ® associated with Db2®? That's a sure sign that IBM and its lawyers care. -- -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software Internatio

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Kirk Wolf
OK, which one of you guys submitted an RFE to change the name, and what was your business justification? :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread W Mainframe
What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result in my SQL SELET... Come on! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 9:50 AM, Mohammad Khan wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:04:45 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKow

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Mohammad Khan
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:04:45 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote: > >What genius at IBM decided it was a good idea to re-brand DB2 to Db2? >We've got loads of documentation that references DB2. Should we spend >time and money changing our doco or leave it as it

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread David Crayford
On 31/10/2017 9:31 PM, Lou Losee wrote: All the latest Db2 books refer to Db2 not DB2. What about vendor books? Lou Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Lou Losee
All the latest Db2 books refer to Db2 not DB2. Lou Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-10-31 o 14:04, David Crayford pisze: On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote: - Interoperability with IBM middleware, including Db2® and z/OS Connect - Unparalleled scalability for Node.js applications by using the underlying z/OS asyncio and IBM Z I/O bandwidth What

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread David Crayford
On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote: - Interoperability with IBM middleware, including Db2® and z/OS Connect - Unparalleled scalability for Node.js applications by using the underlying z/OS asyncio and IBM Z I/O bandwidth What genius at IBM decided it was a good idea to re-bran