Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
// FILEDATA=TEXT, // RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=25496, // PATH='/etc/httpd1443.conf' >... And earlier: On 2014-01-30, at 13:18, Jousma, David wrote: >We have an exit for DFSORT that scans TIOT to see if someone concatenated a >DU

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5284287024729817.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 02/04/2014 at 07:37 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Is the UCB address nonzero for zFS files? The UCB address in the TIOT entry is zero for anything not allocated to a device; that includes not only Unix files but also subsytem files

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:20:21 -0600, John McKown wrote: >On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Jousma, David wrote: > >> Sorry for being dense...Never heard of it? What is SKIP? I just looked >> in JCL reference, don't see anything? > >There is no SKIP parameter in JCL. Gil was wanting IBM to create s

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 10:25:32 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >Suggestion: Add DD keyword SKIP. Similar to DUMMY, but will continue >with the next concatenated DD statement. > No good: user@HOST: rexx "say bpxwdyn( 'alloc skip msg(wtp)' )" -22 -- gil -

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Jousma, David wrote: > Sorry for being dense...Never heard of it? What is SKIP? I just looked > in JCL reference, don't see anything? > There is no SKIP parameter in JCL. Gil was wanting IBM to create such a beasty just for this type of problem. How to "null o

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Jousma, David
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dummy dataset Suggestion: Add DD keyword SKIP. Similar to DUMMY, but will continue with the next concatenated DD statement. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 2/4/2014 8:37 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Prohibiting "DD *" is also unduly harsh. A similar question applies to Shmuel's suggestion of DEVTYPE. The definitive test should be for DSNAME='NULLFILE'. If the code is intended for general use (e.g., a SORT invoked dynamically), then flag TIOSLTY

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Tony Babonas
of symbolics to override dataset names in the concatenation at runtime. The fallout that occurred was because it took days for the affected app groups to determine that the concatenated datasets after the DUMMY dataset were never included in the SORTOUT. I was not at this job when it

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Mike Schwab
NJ 07677 > P: 201-930-8260 | M: 512-627-3803 > E: cblaic...@syncsort.com > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:45 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Jousma, David
because it took days for the affected app groups to determine that the concatenated datasets after the DUMMY dataset were never included in the SORTOUT. I was not at this job when it occurred, but we are a bank, some maybe the affect was that someone's bank accounts were not accurate(I don’t

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dummy dataset No, we have users sorting data with path names as input. Just ran a test. Single path input, concatenated, all work fine, unless they add a DD DUMMY between them. As a side note, DFSORT doesn’t do a good job with dynamic sortwk allocations with PATH input

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Jousma, David wrote: > No, we have users sorting data with path names as input. Just ran a test. > Single path input, concatenated, all work fine, unless they add a DD DUMMY > between them. As a side note, DFSORT doesn’t do a good job with dynamic > sortwk alloc

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Jousma, David
'/etc/httpd1443.conf' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dummy dataset On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:18

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:18:05 +, Jousma, David wrote: >We have an exit for DFSORT that scans TIOT to see if someone concatenated a >DUMMY dataset as input. Here is what I believe to be the relevant snippet of >code: >... >* CHECK FOR DUM

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <3460c7b7-246b-4ae5-811f-f3d8939c5...@optonline.net>, on 01/30/2014 at 03:01 PM, Micheal Butz said: >If a dataset has been dummied out DEVTYPE is the obvious way, but scanning the TIOT will also do it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-31 Thread Jousma, David
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dummy dataset On 2014-01-30 14:04, Jousma, David wrote: > We had some enterprising programmers that coded jobs something like: > > /

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-01-30 14:04, Jousma, David wrote: > We had some enterprising programmers that coded jobs something like: > > //SORTIN DD DSN=a.data.set.name,disp=shr > // dd &dd1,disp=shr > // dd &DD2,disp=shr > // dd dsn=another.data.set.name,disp=shr > > And in the proc defaulted &

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-30 Thread Jousma, David
Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dummy dataset On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:18:05 +, Jousma, David wrote: >We have an exit for DFSORT that scans TIOT to see if someone concatenated a >DUMMY dataset as input. Here is wh

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:18:05 +, Jousma, David wrote: >We have an exit for DFSORT that scans TIOT to see if someone concatenated a >DUMMY dataset as input. Here is what I believe to be the relevant snippet of >code: > Com

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-30 Thread Jousma, David
We have an exit for DFSORT that scans TIOT to see if someone concatenated a DUMMY dataset as input. Here is what I believe to be the relevant snippet of code: *-* * THIS ROUTINE WAS ADDED TO CIRCUMVENT A PROBLEM CREATED BY

Re: Dummy dataset

2014-01-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:01:48 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote: > >Would anyone know if there is a way >For example scanning the TIOT >If a dataset has been dummied out > I get the following, without resorting to a TIOT scan: user@HOST: rexx "say BPXWDYN( 'alloc dd(FOO) dummy' );

Dummy dataset

2014-01-30 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi, Would anyone know if there is a way For example scanning the TIOT If a dataset has been dummied out Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lists