Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On 4/6/20 11:47 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I would start bottom up from

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

7, 2020 5:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On 4/7/20 2:22 AM, R.S. wrote: > > You forgot about third person in a car: Ohm. > > Officer say "you're arrested", but Ohm resists. Thank you Radoslaw ... Even though I had forgotten,

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/7/20 2:22 AM, R.S. wrote: You forgot about third person in a car: Ohm. Officer say "you're arrested", but Ohm resists. Thank you Radoslaw ... Even though I had forgotten, I should have known he was there by inductive reasoning! -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of kn

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

W dniu 07.04.2020 o 05:52, Jack J. Woehr pisze: On 4/6/20 7:29 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: It's certain that Puss is dead in one of two orthogonal projections; the instructor is in a superposition of murder and attempted murder. Is it? Heisenberg and Schrödinger get pulled over for speeding. T

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/6/20 7:29 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: It's certain that Puss is dead in one of two orthogonal projections; the instructor is in a superposition of murder and attempted murder. Is it? Heisenberg and Schrödinger get pulled over for speeding. The cop asks Heisenberg "Do you know how fast you

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS Building with transistors and LED indicators is all

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-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jack J. Woehr [j...@well.com] Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On 4/6/20 12:34 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I am not going to murder a poor defenseless kitten just for a CS class! It's not

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t; Adam Jacobvitz [02b29b762ea6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:26 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Back when I was in grad school I used t

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/6/20 12:34 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I am not going to murder a poor defenseless kitten just for a CS class! It's not *certain* the kitty becomes an ex-cat ... :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptica

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

I am not going to murder a poor defenseless kitten just for a CS class! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On 4/6/20

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On 4/6/20 11:47 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I would start bottom up from the gates, which can be built with radically different technologies, e.g., Vacuum tubes ("valves") versus hydraulic logic. You Are All Obsolete :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Adam Jacobvitz [02b29b762ea6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Back when I was in grad school

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Charles Mills > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 12:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > > If there's a market for BSC-based 3270 emulators, let me know. I

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I hope not. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS If

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o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 6:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS Seymour J. Metz wrote: >A few more notes on nomenclature. TN3270 and TN3270E (upper case) >are protocols published by the IETF; progr

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Seymour J. Metz wrote: >A few more notes on nomenclature. TN3270 and TN3270E (upper case) >are protocols published by the IETF; programs implimenting those >protocols are TN3270 clients, not TN3270 emulators. TN3270 clients >are not 3270 emulators, because they do not support any of the link >proto

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Actually its not. https://github.com/XQuartz/XQuartz/issues/10 Joe On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:09 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 08:33:41 +, Martin Packer wrote: > > > >Note: xQuartz hasn’t been updated in FOREVER. While I use i

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 08:33:41 +, Martin Packer wrote: > >Note: xQuartz hasn’t been updated in FOREVER. While I use it, I’m nervous >of this fact. (I use xQuartz and x3270 on Catalina, without problems, by >the way.) > So XQuartz is 64-bit. Is X11 gaining features that would require support in a

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Note: xQuartz hasn’t been updated in FOREVER. While I use it, I’m nervous of this fact. (I use xQuartz and x3270 on Catalina, without problems, by the way.) Sent from my iPad > On 4 Apr 2020, at 17:38, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > > On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> I tried building x3270

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS tn3270 X recap == Just a point about the names of the 3270 emulators in this discussion. The "Brown University 3270 emulator" that the OP was referring to is called "tn3270 X" (not x3270). It is also called

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/4/20 1:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: And it works. Gasp! Congrats! With our continued effort, your and my $2500 Macs will come to approximate the usefulness of a $550 Linux box. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking,

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On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:40:09 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >On 4/4/20 12:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> Works. Doesn't have nearly the Fonts I'm accustomed to on UNIX. > >*/opt/local/bin/xset fp+ /opt/local/lib/x3270/fonts/* > >Assuming that's where you installed x3270 > Ah! More complicated than

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Actually IBM includes a TN3270E Emulator within the “IBM Explorer for z/OS”. It works fairly well. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSBDYH/welcome.html https://developer.ibm.com/mainframe/products/downlo

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/4/20 12:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Works. Doesn't have nearly the Fonts I'm accustomed to on UNIX. */opt/local/bin/xset fp+ /opt/local/lib/x3270/fonts/* Assuming that's where you installed x3270 -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.co

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 11:27:44 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >I just installed from Mac Ports and it runs. > Seems pretty far downlevel. They talk about not having support for a decade. But it may matter little. OK. Got x3270 v3.6ga11 from http://x3270.bgp.nu/ My mistake was trying to configure; ma

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

I just installed from Mac Ports and it runs. On 4/4/20 11:23 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:08:06 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: Just use homebrew ... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. ... brew install x3270 Nope. See the flame war on: https://github.com/Homebrew/ho

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On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:08:06 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: > >Just use homebrew ... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. >... >brew install x3270 > Nope. See the flame war on: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/issues/46519 -- gil --

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Paul, Just use homebrew ... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. If you dont have it already: /bin/bash -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install.sh)" then: brew install x3270 Joe On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 12:05 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dm

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:38:28 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. > >from http://x3270.bgp.nu/Build.html > > > Notes for MacOS X > >Everything except x3270 is built the usual (Unix) way on MacOS X. But to >build

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

x3270 is also in homebrew... https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/x3270 Joe On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. > > Also, x3270 is in the Mac Ports tree. https://www.macports.org/ > > Inst

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. Also, x3270 is in the Mac Ports tree. https://www.macports.org/ Install Mac Ports and then: sudo port install x3270 -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.c

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. from http://x3270.bgp.nu/Build.html Notes for MacOS X Everything except x3270 is built the usual (Unix) way on MacOS X. But to build x3270, you first need to install XQuartz (http://xquartz.macosfor

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. Failed with: 538 $ make did you ./configure first? http://x3270.bgp.nu/Build.html -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of s

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 19:21:51 +1100, David Price wrote: > >X3270 is free and supports macOS 10.15 Catalina >=== >The OP accidentally mentioned x3270. x3270 runs under the >X Window System (including on a Mac). It is free and is supported >by Paul Mattes o

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Le 04/04/2020 à 10:21, David Price a écrit : > tn3270 X recap > == > Just a point about the names of the 3270 emulators in this discussion. > > The "Brown University 3270 emulator" that the OP was referring to is > called "tn3270 X" (not x3270). It is also called "tn3270" ambiguously.

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf of: Mark Regan > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:13:07 -0400 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > > What I ended up using was ZOC, since

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47 > An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Betreff: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > > Hello > > I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well > but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > > Is there a way or f

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emulator for Mac OS Hello I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ?

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ption, it is the two factors I name above. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > Frankly I

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 16:57:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> Frankly I don't think I have seen any resistance to OCO in twenty years, > >What is FOSS, chopped liver? > >> Customers are pressing to have exits go away. In other words, they *want* >> local customization to be parameters plus object

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

mu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS > Are you actually seeing res

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inframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS There's room for both open source and proprietary software. My preference is for well maintained softwar

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osts $30 for a single user. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 em

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20 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS Why the determination not to financially reward the developers for their efforts? Why would I hypothetically write a 3270 emulator if it's not important enough to pay for? Why are computer people so loathe

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Yep ... so as soon as he responds to me we can make that happen. The conversion from Cocoa to the new APIs isnt hard. Joe On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:55 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:47:36 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: > > >Ive been tr

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 16:47:36 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: >Ive been trying to get in touch with the guy who wrote the brown university >emulator. So far no response... > On https://www.brown.edu/cis/tn3270/index.html#latest Peter DiCamillo says has no resource nor intention to support a 64-bit version

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osts $30 for a single user. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free 3270 em

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PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > And it will die with Catalina, >Is there

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:47:17 +0400, Peter wrote: > >I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well >but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. > And it will die with Catalina, >Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? > Check the

Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

Hello I have been using x3270 emulator from brown University and it works well but it doesn't maximize to the full screen size. Is there a way or free alternative emulator which can be tried on Mac OS ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN su