Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-02 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
The problem I had with it was that there doesn't seem to be any way to order maintenance for an FMID (or product) until *after* it has been applied. I would have much preferred to have applied all maintenance along with the FMID, particularly since there were ++IFREQs against the FMID that wanted

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 00:04:50 -0500, Tim Henness wrote: >The problem I had with it was that there doesn't seem to be any way to >order maintenance for an FMID (or product) until *after* it has been >applied. I would have much preferred to have applied all maintenance >along with the FMID, particula

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Tim Henness
The problem I had with it was that there doesn't seem to be any way to order maintenance for an FMID (or product) until *after* it has been applied. I would have much preferred to have applied all maintenance along with the FMID, particularly since there were ++IFREQs against the FMID that wan

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:49:37 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: > >We didn't have the DASD space at the time (we needed a few extra >volumes for maintenance and they were being used by another >application). We were in a DASD constrained environment. > Is there a further performance concern in that if the user

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Ed Gould
Kurt: We didn't have the DASD space at the time (we needed a few extra volumes for maintenance and they were being used by another application). We were in a DASD constrained environment. Ed On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: I was working on a specific product and *ONLY

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: Kurt: We wanted to bring RACF to the latest level without the other "acruttumonts(sp?)" so w just wanted to receive maintenance for RACF. We had an issue and level 2 want ptf X on and x was in the the group of PTFS that we wanted to ord

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I was working on a specific product and *ONLY* wanted maintenance for that. Time and again I had to figure out all the pertaining PTF's and do a select(,,,,eee, etc etc) I did NOT want maintenance for other products to be recieved and applied. (I know I'm going to kick my sel

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-12-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I installed a feature pack for CICS. It came as a separate FMID. We are having trouble making it work, so I wanted to make sure that we had the latest maintenance for it. That tells me why you want to install (APPLY) PTFs for a single FMID. It does not answer my question of why you feel it nece

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-26 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Well played mr. Gould! --- *Lucas Rosalen* rosalen.lu...@gmail.com +55 19 9-8146-7633 2014-11-26 14:44 GMT-02:00 Ed Gould : > Thanks. > However *I* was the one that raised

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-26 Thread Ed Gould
Thanks. However *I* was the one that raised a SHARE requirement for forfmid. :) Ed On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:30 AM, Lucas Rosalen wrote: To apply PTFs for a specific fmid: //APPLYEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,PARM='DATE=U',REGION=0M //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your_csi //SMPCNTL DD * SET BDY (your_target)

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-26 Thread Lucas Rosalen
To apply PTFs for a specific fmid: //APPLYEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,PARM='DATE=U',REGION=0M //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your_csi //SMPCNTL DD * SET BDY (your_target) . APPLY PTFS FORFMID (your_fmid) GROUPEXTEND BYPASS(HOLDSYS) RETRY(YES) C(ALL) . Hope this is what you've been looking for. Lucas Rosale

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-25 Thread Ed Gould
Kurt: I was working on a specific product and *ONLY* wanted maintenance for that. Time and again I had to figure out all the pertaining PTF's and do a select(,,,,eee, etc etc) I did NOT want maintenance for other products to be recieved and applied. Ed On Nov 25, 2014

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-11-24, at 09:11, Chase, John wrote: > > GROUPEXTEND seems to be in force when the IFREQ FMID(s) exist(s) in (one of) > the target zone(s) specified on RECEIVE ORDER. I have ordered specific PTFs > for (e.g.) the COBOL v5.1 compiler (HADB510), and IFREQ PTF(s) for Language > Environment

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-25 Thread גדי בן אבי
Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >>>>> Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID? >>>>> I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-25 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Kurt Quackenbush wrote: > Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID? > I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13. > >> To what purpose? Limiting bandwidth for an urgently needed PTF? Sooner or >> later you're likely to need all available PTFs. Easier to RECEIVE all and >>

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-25 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID? I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13. To what purpose? Limiting bandwidth for an urgently needed PTF? Sooner or later you're likely to need all available PTFs. Easier to RECEIVE all and APPLY SELECT( ... ) GROUPEXTEND [CHECK] Yes, yes

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/24/2014 at 08:05 AM, John McKown said: >As an aside, if possible, could you adjust your email software to >left justify your English text? While I see extraneous blanks in his From: and To: lines the body seems to be left justified. He's got Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windo

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Ed Gould
Paul, Way back when I was having a similar issue with applies so I asked IBM (SHARE REQ) for apply forfmid. I was lucky I asked for it and got it the the next SHARE so I am guessing it was in the works already. Ed On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Jousma, David
Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Jousma, David
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf O

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:01 AM > > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:41:14 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: > > > >http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21225816 > > > You can order mainten

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:41:14 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21225816 > You can order maintenance in the following ways: > >individual PTFs >PTFs for individual APARs >service for individual installed FMIDs > <---

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:55 AM > > Hi, > > Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID? > > I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13. Yes, but only if the specific FMID is the only FMI

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:05 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID > > Gadi, > > I don't think that is possible. Unless, of course, some product consists of a

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Juergen Kehr
Hi, AFAIK normal RECEIVE ORDER does not have such a function to include or exclude FMIDs, but there is an offering of IBM Germany which allows to specify a BLACKLIST or a WHITELIST of FMIDs to be included or excluded, when you order service. You'll find some information about this product named

Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread John McKown
Gadi, I don't think that is possible. Unless, of course, some product consists of a single FMID. But you can't, for instance, only order TCPIP independently of z/OS. At least, I cannot see any way to do that. As an aside, if possible, could you adjust your email software to left justify your Engl

Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID? I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13. Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בע"מ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : "החברה") וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם ה