Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-14 Thread Kirk Talman
> From: Ed Jaffe > At UK GSE in November, one of the opening presenters was Tomas Kadlec, > from Tesco - a very large Wal-Mart-like retailer in Europe. He presented > an interesting slide show I remember fondly having Tesco as a client decades ago. We were always amazed how they got so muc

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-08 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 1/7/14 3:05 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? Can you do SSL connection on those toys? [1] ALL of the iOS and Android devices that I

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Avram Friedman
You are in luck. IMS is fully web complient. It has a MFS SOAP gateway that supports the web out of the box. It seems like your monster application is also important. If it was not simply retiring it would be an option. Is the monster application stable and not in need of business updates be

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/06/2014 at 04:56 PM, Sanya Off said: >I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with >regards to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based >monster application more friendlier to users and developers: 1. Webifying it won't make it user friendly. If yo

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 16:56 -0500, Sanya Off wrote: > I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards > to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based monster application > more friendlier to users and developers: We use Rocket's "Legasuite" screen scraper. (And

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Mark Hammond
: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Hello, One option is to modernize (convert/migrate) the application(s) to a more updated environment (Windows & SQL/Server, UNIX & Oracle, etc.). Through the use of a proven automated tool suite set, this can be done via a relatively q

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Mark Hammond
: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Folks, I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based monster application more friendlier to users and developers: - users want web-based access; - developers are limited

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread David Crayford
: IBM-MAIN Sent: Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:05 am Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Timothy Sipples wrote: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? Can you do SSL connection on those toys

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Denis Gäbler
and architecture discussion, but I like to make clear that this is not limited to 3270 emulators running on mobile devices. Hope that helps, Denis. -Original Message- From: Elardus Engelbrecht To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Tue, Jan 7, 2014 10:05 am Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: >1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon >mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? Can you do SSL connection on those toys? [1] [1] - I have a free TN3270 client [2] on my iPhone 5 and connected it via a SSL port using

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
I'd like to ask a few simple questions as follow-up since the answers should help narrow the range options down substantially: 1A. Users want Web-based access, OK. May I assume that means (or could soon mean) mobile as well (iPads, Android devices, and so on)? 1B. Is there a requirement to contin

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/6/2014 5:31 PM, Sanya Off wrote: Tnx folks. I did my homework before spilling my mail here. So i am aware of multiple approaches. I am still lokking for thr personal experiences. And. This is a 30 y.o. app At UK GSE in November, one of the opening presenters was Tomas Kadlec, from Tesco -

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Scott Ford
Maybe you work on explaining what you are trying to do, more than a few words is highly helpful Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Sanya Off wrote: > > Tnx folks. I did my homework before spilling my mail here. So i am aware of > multiple approaches.

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Sanya Off
Tnx folks. I did my homework before spilling my mail here. So i am aware of multiple approaches. I am still lokking for thr personal experiences. And. This is a 30 y.o. app On Jan 6, 2014 6:40 PM, "Richard Peurifoy" wrote: > On 1/6/2014 5:22 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >> This might be a better

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 1/6/2014 5:22 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: This might be a better topic on IMS Newsgroup. They may have ideas to make an old app look new. Also, be aware of any SLAs or performance concerns. Going to a server platform (LUW) might not always provide the best service. I am not sure SLA's real

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Finnell
Something about silk purse and sow's ear comes to mind, but it may just be the cold! In a message dated 1/6/2014 5:33:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: continue to spend $ millions to make it right

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/6/2014 3:22 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: IBM updated the old IBMLINK (VM) to a web based environment. And we are still complaining about performance, service, downtime of the application. We did not complain when it was the VM system. And they have spent and continue to spend $ millions to

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
ff > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:56 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application > > Folks, > > I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards to > approaching a grand task of making an old I

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
, FSVO "success". Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mitch Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Peter (et al): I hav

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread David Crayford
3 > To: IBM-MAIN > Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:51 pm > Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application > > > As usual, it depends on how far forward the original "monster application' > esigners looked (or not...). If the core business logic is separated f

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Mitch
to an LUW environment. Regards, Mitch -Original Message- From: Farley, Peter x23353 To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:51 pm Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application As usual, it depends on how far forward the original "monster application' esigners

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
inal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sanya Off Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application Folks, I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opini

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Mitch
ner with. If you want to talk about this offline, please drop me a "private" email reply. Respectfully, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Sanya Off To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:06 pm Subject: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based a

Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Take a look at IMS connect which enables API for Java or C code. You will need a good understanding of your IMS database structures On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Sanya Off wrote: > Folks, > > I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards > to approaching a gr

Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

2014-01-06 Thread Sanya Off
Folks, I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based monster application more friendlier to users and developers: - users want web-based access; - developers are limited in their skills (particularly, z/OS skills