Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <022c01d12620$631e3cb0$295ab610$@mcn.org>, on 11/23/2015 at 10:54 AM, Charles Mills said: >Not disagreeing with YOU at all Shmuel but apparently the customer >*perception* is that ABO-compiled code does not have to be >re-tested significantly. Well, it's not my dog. If

Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread George Rodriguez
FYI... Mainframe Cobol *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *IT Enterprise Applications* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(954) 415-7586 (mobile)* *School District of

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of George Rodriguez > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Interesting Article About Cobol > > FYI... > > Mainframe Cobol > <http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/db2zos/how

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Charles Mills
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 6:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol So just looking at the PDF diagram, it looks like you have to run your load module thru the ABO and create a new load module with the same

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
age- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:22 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol > > My understanding is that ABO is not required fo

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread John McKown
f Lizette Koehler > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 6:39 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol > > So just looking at the PDF diagram, it looks like you have to run your > load module thru the ABO and create a new load module with the same n

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Massimo Biancucci
product. > > Charles > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 6:39 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol &

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread George Rodriguez
> -teD > > - > > Original Message > > From: Lizette Koehler > > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 09:47 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol > > > > So just

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:49:30 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Very quick answer -- I have been through the presentation but am not an expert >and have not used. > >Think of it as a compiler. Most compilers are source code in, object code out; >it is object code in, object code

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
frame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of George Rodriguez > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Interesting Article About Cobol > > FYI... > > Mainframe Cobol > <http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/d

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > And then any time you would recompile your program, you would need to run it > through ABO again. > Lizette > Not if you change your ARCHLEVEL parameter on your compiler. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Thompson
On 11/23/2015 11:03 AM, George Rodriguez wrote: I would have never thought that the FYI would create such a great discussion. Has anyone taken the time to post all the great comments, questions on the site itself? That may generate and/or answer some of the questions here... Thanks! *George

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-11-23, at 09:55, Steve Thompson wrote: > > I've done multiple migrations (plus how many did the Y2K remediation?) where > missing source had to be resolved. > It may be a good idea to rebuild all applications from source periodically, whether you need to or not. o It exploits compiler

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Charles Mills
] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol In <CAAJSdjhXJSn-JYq_0awmCcL+ND6cdddV3EiTD0WJz2Sn4Qc-=g...@mail.gmail.com>, on 11/23/2015 at 09:02 AM, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <009d01d125fc$b30c7760$19256620$@mindspring.com>, on 11/23/2015 at 07:39 AM, Lizette Koehler said: >And then any time you would recompile your program, you would need to >run it through ABO again. The product is targetted to environments where recompiling is not

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/23/2015 at 09:02 AM, John McKown said: >But if the optimizer actually "recompiles" >the object code into new object code, then doesn't that new object >code need to be as thoroughly

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread zMan
Isn't this Subject: line an oxymoron? (DUCKING!) On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In <022c01d12620$631e3cb0$295ab610$@mcn.org>, on 11/23/2015 >at 10:54 AM, Charles Mills said: > > >Not disagreeing with YOU

Re: Interesting Article About Cobol

2015-11-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Interesting Article About Cobol In <CAAJSdjhXJSn-JYq_0awm