Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 52a9b59f.2090...@gmail.com, on 12/12/2013 at 09:09 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: Would they be seduced by a GUI? The Devil is in the details. Would they be seduced by a GUI that was as fast, functional, reliable and user friendly as the old interface? Probably most would.

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6290237e7...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se, on 12/12/2013 at 03:38 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said: Not I. If I compare a typical 3270-interface and a typical PC/WEB-interface I generally can observe that the response times is about 50 times better

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-13 Thread Hunkeler, Peter
We have MVS QuickRef, but it is licensed on only one of our CECs and I often find myself logged onto one of the systems where it is not available. I have a small REXX CGI program, that runs on the z/OS HTTP server that displays MVS Quickref info in a browser window. Does this support

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-13 Thread Dana Mitchell
Does this support jumping forward from the initial message display. I'm thinking of messages with return codes. The 3270 interface displays the message header and prepares to jump to the RC section upon a simple enter. -- Peter Hunkeler No, I couldn't figure out a way to do that. It's

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#25 GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT this is quickdirty conversion of internal (cms) ios3270 green card to html ... trying to preserve a little of the original lookfeel http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html very early in rex(x) days

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-13 Thread Scott Ford
David, Doesn't matter to me .I could care less..once you learn something, better be flexible nowdays Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Dec 12, 2013, at 8:09 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 9:05 PM,

Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Mike Schwab
Yes, we have it. And we install it during DR exercises. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Arthur Fichtl fich...@kabelmail.de wrote: I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed. At my former assignment we had it and used it extensively. MVSQR

Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Thomas Berg
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Arthur Fichtl Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed. At my former assignment we had it and used

Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed. At my former assignment we had it and used it extensively. MVSQR is much more powerful than Lookat and it provides a comfortable UI. Note: I'm not affiliated

Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Arthur Fichtl fich...@kabelmail.de wrote: I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed. At my former assignment we had it and used it extensively. MVSQR is much more powerful than Lookat and it provides a

GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread David Crayford
On 12/12/2013 9:05 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Arthur Fichtl fich...@kabelmail.de wrote: I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed. At my former assignment we had it and used it extensively. MVSQR is much more

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Hunkeler, Peter
I wonder how many mainframers would stick to what they're comfortable with even if a GUI interface came along that totally nuked the old school UI. At least for me this is not about sticking to the known as opposed to embracing the new. But to embrace the new it must at least be as fast,

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 9:05 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Arthur Fichtl fich...@kabelmail.de wrote: I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed.

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT On 12/12/2013 9:05 PM, John McKown

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.sewrote: -Original Message- Not I. If I compare a typical 3270-interface and a typical PC/WEB-interface I generally can observe that the response times is about 50 times better in the 3270-interface. It's also

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:42:46 -0600, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 9:05 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Arthur Fichtl fich...@kabelmail.de wrote: I'm just

Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Mitch
Message- From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thu, Dec 12, 2013 2:59 am Subject: Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT I have had the luxury of QuickRef at most companies I have worked for, this one ncluded. -Original Message

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
thomas.b...@swedbank.se (Thomas Berg) writes: Not I. If I compare a typical 3270-interface and a typical PC/WEB-interface I generally can observe that the response times is about 50 times better in the 3270-interface. It's also generally less cluttered and easier to handle. OTOH a typical

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:38:10

Re: GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-12 Thread Kean, Michael
Snip Coincidentally, today I'm working on a VISTA macro to make this cursor point and shootable Dana Here's the one I'm using: ** * LookAt Macro - Bound to ALT+RMB

MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT

2013-12-11 Thread Arthur Fichtl
I'm just curious whether anybody out there has MVS Quick Reference from Chicago Soft installed. At my former assignment we had it and used it extensively. MVSQR is much more powerful than Lookat and it provides a comfortable UI. Note: I'm not affiliated with that company, just a user. Arthur