Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-11-02 Thread David Mingee
: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT Hi Willie, We (INNOVATION) do not have any record of you writing/calling us on this. Normally, we would want to see the entire report to be able to answer this type of question. When an IAM file is created with the VSAM EXTENDED

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-31 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Willie Bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Lizette, > 0IAM100 IAM FILE ANALYSIS - DSN=SYS2.AT35.LAIM.ARPOST http://www.fdr.com/fdrmsgs/msgpop.cfm?msgID=IAM100 IAM100 is an INFORMATIONAL message issued by IAM V9.0 IAM100 IAM FILE ANAL

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-31 Thread Willie Bunter
Joseph, Thanks for the info. To confirm no question was posed to Innovation. If I have more questions I will gladly contact your group. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-31 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette, Below is the IAM display : IAM400 IAM CATALOG INFORMATION SERVICE -- VER 9.1/01P DATE 2014.300 TIME 12:48:46 0IAM100 IAM FILE ANALYSIS - DSN=SYS2.AT35.LAIM.ARPOST -

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-30 Thread Joseph Butz
Hi Willie, We (INNOVATION) do not have any record of you writing/calling us on this. Normally, we would want to see the entire report to be able to answer this type of question. When an IAM file is created with the VSAM EXTENDED format the IAM Global Options value for RELEASE= is used for t

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Release applies to ALL extended format. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Willie Bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Mike, > > Thanks for the info. Would you know if the RELEASE is by default? > > -- >

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
er > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:05 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT > OUTPUT > > Mike, > > Thanks for the info. Would you know if the RELEASE is by default? > --

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Mike, Thanks for the info. Would you know if the RELEASE is by default? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/23/2014 at 12:03 PM, Mike Schwab said: >3.5 in Floppy disks were 1440 sectors of 512 for 720KiB then 2880 >sectors for 1440KiB or 1.40MiB but labeled them as 1.44M. 512*2880 is 1474560 bytes. 1474560/1024/1024 is 1.25. 1474560/1024000 is 1.44. 1.40MiB would be 1468006.40B. --

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-29 Thread Mike Schwab
Extended VSAM can be released. Standard VSAM cannot be released. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad400/defks.htm On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Willie Bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I defined the dsn as VSAM EXTEND

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED - IAMPRINT OUTPUT

2014-10-29 Thread Willie Bunter
I defined the dsn as VSAM EXTENDED format and I ran a LISTCAT to compare the before and after allocation. Everything is okay except for the following: When the dsn was NOT VSAM EXTENDED format the IAM100 IAM FILE ANALYSIS output showed : TOTAL EXTENTS =49 - TOTAL SPACE ALLOCATED - =

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-27 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette, Thank you. Just what I was looking for. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
2014 7:45 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED > > Lizette, > > Thank you. Just what I was looking for. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive a

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
7, 2014 7:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED > > Anyone know where I can information on ISMF. I am looking for information on > the > following parms for the DATACLAS. > > I looked that the following books : > > z

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-27 Thread Willie Bunter
Anyone know where I can information on ISMF. I am looking for information on the following parms for the DATACLAS. I looked that the following books : z/OS DFSMS Storage Administration Reference z/OSDFSMS: Using Data Sets z/OS DFSMS Using the Interactive Storage Management Facility I didn't f

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-23 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette, No, this is not RMM. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-23 Thread Mike Schwab
5.25 in Floppy disks were 320KiB then 1.2MiB 3.5 in Floppy disks were 1440 sectors of 512 for 720KiB then 2880 sectors for 1440KiB or 1.40MiB but labeled them as 1.44M. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <5447c687.3060...@us.ibm.com>, on 10/22/2014 >at 11:00

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5447c687.3060...@us.ibm.com>, on 10/22/2014 at 11:00 AM, John Eells said: >This is perhaps the strangest marketing decision ever made by the >industry. Stranger than units of 1024000? >most system limits are in powers of two, It would help if you would start using SI binary units for t

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Barry Merrill
me Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED On 10/22/2014 10:00 AM, John Eells wrote: > jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: > >>> *

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you are at z/OS V2.1. Check out reclaim ca. Lizette -Original Message- >From: Lizette Koehler >Sent: Oct 22, 2014 1:29 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED > >Is this an rmm tape batabase or something else. The rea

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 10/22/2014 10:00 AM, John Eells wrote: > jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: > >>> * I believe that is most likely GiB for the pedantic among us. >> >> IIRC, DASD capacities are expressed in decimal, rather than binary, >> quantities: >> >> 4KB = 4,000 bytes; >> 4MB = 4,000,000 bytes; >> 4GB

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> >Sent: Oct 22, 2014 12:00 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED > >Lizette, > >Here are the answers to your questions.  The dsn is huge and is corrently >expanding on to 12 3390-9 volumes.  T

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread willie bunter
entation as now.  In order to do so we will have to modify the SMS SC routine to treat the dsn as VSAM EXTENDED. On Wed, 10/22/14, Lizette Koehler wrote: Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Wednes

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread willie bunter
ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED Thanks to everybody's input.   However, I still don't have a firm answer.  What is the maximum amount of cylinders should I be able to allocate for a VSAM DSN without having to make it EXTENDED. Would this be the same cri

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread willie bunter
Allan, I checked. The VVDS is at the beginning of the volume. On Wed, 10/22/14, Staller, Allan wrote: Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 10:51 AM Sounds about

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
have unique requirements. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of willie bunter > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:35 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VS

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread John Eells
jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: * I believe that is most likely GiB for the pedantic among us. IIRC, DASD capacities are expressed in decimal, rather than binary, quantities: 4KB = 4,000 bytes; 4MB = 4,000,000 bytes; 4GB = 4,000,000,000 bytes; Etc. This is perhaps the strangest market

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Sounds about right. Doing the math (roughly) at 2.8 gb/volume (3390 mod3). Non extended VSAM has a upper limit of 4gb 2.8GB 3339(cyl) ___ = 4.0GB x(cyl) 2.8x = 4*3339 X=4770 cyls. Allowing for VTOC, VTOCIX, VSAM overhead, INDEX, CISIZE, I would accept

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
er. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED Thanks to everybody's input. However

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread willie bunter
ns as well? On Wed, 10/22/14, Roberto wrote: Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 9:09 AM Hi to every, NO! A VSAM with CIsize of 4096 can use only 12 block on every tracks so in a cyls is possible to write

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Roberto
Hi to every, NO! A VSAM with CIsize of 4096 can use only 12 block on every tracks so in a cyls is possible to write 4096*12*15 => 737.280 byte or 720KB 4GB are 4294967296 byte / 737280 are about 5825 cyls (or 87381 tracks) Remember the space limit of 65536 track on every volume for any dsn not

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells > > > What is the maximum number of cyclinders that can be used to define a dsn > > that is not VSAM EXTENDED. > I think it is 4400 cylinders. I was trying to allocate a dsn at 4500 4500 > but I kept on a

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Eells wrote: >z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets documents maximum data set sizes, including limits >for both extended format and nonextended format VSAM data sets, in Topic >1.3.2.3. It says that nonextended VSAM data sets have a limit of 4GB*. >(4GB* / 56664 / 15) = 5,053 cylinders (approximatel

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread John Eells
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (willie bunter) wrote: Good Day To All, What is the maximum number of cyclinders that can be used to define a dsn that is not VSAM EXTENDED. I think it is 4400 cylinders. I was trying to allocate a dsn at 4500 4500 but I kept on abending with IG

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Dno
I think 4gb is around 5400 cylinders. I have been able to allocate a VSAM KSDS with 5400 cyls primary. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2014, at 2:35 AM, willie bunter > <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Good Day To All, > > What is the maximum number of cyclinders

QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-21 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All, What is the maximum number of cyclinders that can be used to define a dsn that is not VSAM EXTENDED. I think it is 4400 cylinders. I was trying to allocate a dsn at 4500 4500 but I kept on abending with IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES Finally I was ab