Kind ibm-mainers,
I have a question about printing selective held spool files to a data set with
SDSF under ISPF.
Here's what I know how to do:
1 Select the spool files for a job under the "ST" panel using "?" prefix.
2 Then the panel displaying the list appears. I often use INPUT primary to s
On Sun, 1 May 2022 09:18:20 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>. ...
>Works OK, but I would like to know if there is a way to:
>
>a) in the output data set, have each concatenated spool file prefixed by a
>separator record, like the Job/Step/procstep/ddname of the spol file ?
>
How would you deal with unli
You can try this. It may work as is or give you an idea on how to do what you
want
https://github.com/lbdyck/sdsfxdd
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Ah. Thanks Lionel! I will take a look.
I should have mentioned that I'm looking for something without a REXX install
so that I can easily give it to clients on the fly.
-- Kirk
On Sun, May 1, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
> You can try this. It may work as is or give you an idea on
Right. I can do that also using Co:Z SFTP, pretty simple in a batch.
My thing for now is something that is purely SDSF / ISPF commands and options
for wide audience as Rx.
On Sun, May 1, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sun, 1 May 2022 09:18:20 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
> >. ...
> >W
Pretty sure there is no such thing as a z/OS install without Rexx
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On Sun, 1 May 2022 13:42:55 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
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>I should have mentioned that I'm looking for something without a REXX install
>so that I can easily give it to clients on the fly.
>
Do you mean you want solely printed instructions:
no files, no scripts, no program objects, ...
But I can u
I do not believe there is any z/OS system without Rexx available.
>
> >Pretty sure there is no such thing as a z/OS install without Rexx
> >
> ???
> But there were installers for MVS long before Rexx infiltrated TSO/E.
> A classic example is SMP/E, which IBM deemed safe until
> Spring, 2010.
>
On Sun, 1 May 2022 23:00:39 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>I do not believe there is any z/OS system without Rexx available.
>
>> >Pretty sure there is no such thing as a z/OS install without Rexx
>> >
I misunderstood you to say that there is no installation procedure
on z/OS that does not depend o
Pretty sure ISPF requires REXX, and it is on one pack recovery
volumes. Probably get it from a restore tape.
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> I do not believe there is any z/OS system without Rexx available.
>
> >
> > >Prett
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I do not believe there is any z/OS system without Rexx available.
>
> >Pretty sure there is no such thing as a z/OS install without Rexx
> >
> ???
> But there were installers for MVS lo
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Pretty sure there is no such thing as a z/OS install without Rexx
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, 2022 2:42 PM
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Ah. Thanks Lionel! I will take a look.
I should have mentioned that I'm looking for something without a REXX install
so that I can easily give it to clients on the fly.
-- Kirk
On Sun, May 1, 2022, at
I'm sorry if I was not clear. I was looking for something that used standard
SDSF commands and does not require that a client have some REXX code of any
kind. It's more about the usage context rather than anything pejorative about
REXX.
On Sun, May 1, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
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I'm sorry if I was not clear. I was looking for something that used
standard SDSF commands and does not require that a client have some REXX
code of any kind. It's more about the usage context rather than a
on. Character is what you
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On Mon, 2 May 2022 11:20:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Requiring a manual install mighyt redfuce the appeal of the product.
>
Supply JCL to move the putative script into SYSEXEC, avoiding
manual install.
Then supply a tool to move that JCL into PROCLIB.
Then supply ... Rats! Infinite regres
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Kirk - I know of no way to add a descriptor record separating each DD when
extracting multiple DD's using SDSF to a single target dataset
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> Kirk - I know of no way to add a descriptor record separating each DD
Lionel and I have been communicating about his very nice SDSFXDD, because it
wasn't working for me.
For me it only finds jobs whose jobname starts with your userid. If I have
jobs in O queue:
NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty C FormsDest Tot-Rec
PHS1 JOB04436 PHS
Forgot to add-Lionel does not seem to be having this problem.
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Lionel and I have been communicating about his very nice SDSFXDD, because it
wasn't working for me.
For me it only finds jobs whose jobname starts with your userid. If I have
jobs in O queue:
NP JOBNAME JobIDOwner
Hi Phil,
1) Use the SET DISPLAY ON command to see your settings
2) OWNER PHS
3) PREFIX ** (2 asterisks are necessary; it's been a quirk in the
product since GA back in '87.)
4) INPUT ON
Regards,
David
On 2022-05-03 11:46, Phil Smith III wrote:
Lionel and I have been communicating about his ve
OK, Lionel figured it out, as did some folks here-adding:
isfprefix = '*'
Fixes it. That's weird, since it's a Rexx variable-I would have expected a
subcommand to SDSF to be needed. But it works, so yay!
SET DISPLAY ON shows:
PREFIX=** DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=CrDate/A SYSNAME= FILTERS=
he exec is
executed outside of a current SDSF session (eg from option 6 (TSO)), then these
values reflect the defaults assigned from the SDSF group and security rules.
Rob Scott
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Rob Scott wrote:
>Try adding the following lines to your test exec after the ISFCALLS
statement :
>Rc=ISFQUERY("INIT")
>Say "Prefix="isfprefix " Owner="isfowner " Dest="isfdest " JES="isfjesname
But when I do so, those variables do not get set:
/* REXX */
arg j
rc = isfcalls('ON')
rc
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Rob Scott wrote:
>Try adding the following lines to your test exec after the ISFCALLS
statement :
>Rc=ISFQUERY("INIT")
>Say "Prefix="isfprefix " Owner="isfowner
Peter Farley wrote:
>I see the "local workaround" in that APAR says this:
>>As a work-around, the SDSF special DD ISFMIGRL can be
>>allocated to avoid this problem.
>Maybe that's the solution?
Maybe; I missed it because it's meaningless as written. Just define a dummy
DD*? Or what? Googling "is
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I see the "local workaround" in that APAR says this:
As a work-around, the SDSF special DD ISFMIGRL can be
allocated to avoid this problem.
Maybe that's the solution?
Peter
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Oops, when I said it was a Googlewhack I meant to add that the lone hit *is*
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On Wed, 4 May 2022 13:51:03 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
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>Maybe; I missed it because it's meaningless as written. Just define a dummy
>DD*?
>
It's somewhat common for utilities to condition their behavior on
the mere existence of a DD.
>... Or what? Googling "isfmigrl" is a Googlewh
Rob Scott wrote, in part:
> If this does not help you solve the problems, please open a case with IBM
and our support will help debug.
OK, thanks. I can't open a case as we don't have that kind of access as an
IBM Dallas customer.
That APAR really shouldn't be suggesting ISFMIGRL when it ap
On Wed, 4 May 2022 14:41:17 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
>...
>That APAR really shouldn't be suggesting ISFMIGRL when it appears not to be
>a thing, of course.
>
Yes.
>If this were CMS, you could issue:
>address command 'SUBCOM SDSF'
>to test whether the SDSF subcommand environment was availa
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Rob Scott wrote, in part:
>
On Wed, 4 May 2022 19:11:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>?
>
>From z/OS 2.5 TSO/E REXX Reference, SA32-0972-50:
>
>"You can use the SUBCOM command in REXX execs that run in any address space,
>TSO/E or non-TSO/E.
>That is, SUBCOM is available from the TSO and MVS host command environments."
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Shmuel wrote:
>From z/OS 2.5 TSO/E REXX Reference, SA32-0972-50:
>"You can use the SUBCOM command in REXX execs that run in any address
space, TSO/E or non-TSO/E.
>That is, SUBCOM is available from the TSO and MVS host command
environments."
Oh. Well, Rob had written:
>When invoked outsid
On Wed, 4 May 2022 20:12:11 -0400, Phil Smith III \ wrote:
>Shmuel wrote:
>. ...
>>That is, SUBCOM is available from the TSO and MVS host command
>environments."
>
>Oh. Well, Rob had written:
>>When invoked outside of SDSF, as your example shows, it returns a non-zero
>return code to indicate th
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>?
>
>From z/OS 2.5 TSO/E REXX Reference, SA32-0972-50:
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>"You can use the SUBCOM command in REXX execs that run in an
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Shmuel wrote:
>From z/OS 2.5 TSO/E REXX Reference, SA32-0972-50:
>"You can use the SUBCOM command in REXX execs that run in any address
space, TSO/E or non-TS
Shmuel wrote:
>The correct way to determine whether you are in SDSF is presumably
ISFQUERY; definitely not SUBCOM.
OK, I can believe that, though I sure don't understand it. I would have
thought that if the subcommand environment was available, that was what you
wanted to know; clearly there's
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>The correct way to determine whether you are in SDSF is presumably
ISFQUERY; definitely not SUBCOM.
OK, I can believe tha
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>ISFQUERY() provides the ability to detect if the current task is already
>connected to SDSF and it can inherit the current session environment data.
>
I'm confused and very naive. Long ago I wrote a SDSF
API Rexx exec to extract spool
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Shmuel wrote:
>The correct way to determine whether you are in SDSF is presumably
ISFQUERY; definitely not SUBCOM.
OK, I can beli
On Thu, 5 May 2022 17:15:08 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Consider a script running under TSO. The SH environment is available, but you
>can't issue any Unix commands until you call syscalls.
>
When that script starts under TSO, neither SH nor SYSCALL
command environment is availablwe. SYSCALLS
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