SMF Interval

2023-12-28 Thread Ed Jaffe
What SMF interval do most folks use? -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Mike Shorkend
Ed, The most common I have seen is 30 minutes. 15 minutes is also not rare. Mike On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 07:23, Ed Jaffe wrote: > What SMF interval do most folks use? > > -- > Phoenix Software International > Edward E. Jaffe > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segu

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Colin Paice
minute it occurred in, was very useful, and being able to correlate to other events. Note: This can produce a lot of data! On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 05:23, Ed Jaffe wrote: > What SMF interval do most folks use? > > -- > Phoenix Software International > Edward E. Jaffe > 831 Parkview

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Ed, in my experience 15 minutes for the most. I've seen 10 minutes too. IMHO big SMF DATA producers are DB2, CICS, IMS, MQ etc. with their accounting records that are not SMF Interval related. Choosing a maximum of 15 minutes may be better to correlate issues. Best regards. Max Il giorno v

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 21:23:18 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >What SMF interval do most folks use? > In my experience (from many shops / clients over the years), it matches the RMF interval and the most common if 15 minutes. Second most common is probably 30 (along with RMF) but I think most

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/29/2023 1:46 AM, Colin Paice wrote: With MQ some customers would set the interval to one minute for a period to get granular statistics and accounting to help with problem determination. The MQ accounting would report maximum response time for the interval. If you have a "spiky" problem,

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Steve Beaver
Be careful setting in low. If TSO is On that system you will have a lot S322’s Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:05, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > On 12/29/2023 1:46 AM, Colin Paice wrote: >> With MQ some customers would set the interval to one minute

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Steve Beaver
Sorry my bad. I was the thinking about JWT Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:49, Steve Beaver wrote: > > Be careful setting in low. If TSO is > On that system you will have a lot > S322’s > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could typ

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:57:35 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 21:23:18 -0800, Ed Jaffe >wrote: > >>What SMF interval do most folks use? >> > >In my experience (from many shops / clients over the years), it matches the >RMF interval >and the m

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/29/2023 3:20 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: This paper from Scott Chapman of EPS talks about the subject and he agrees with me that it should be no longer than 15 minutes and that RMF/SMF should be synced. https://www.pivotor.com/library/content/Chapman_SMFRecommendations_2022.pdf Super helpful

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Michael Oujesky
ec 2023 at 05:23, Ed Jaffe wrote: > What SMF interval do most folks use? > > -- > Phoenix Software International > Edward E. Jaffe > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segundo, CA 90245 &g

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-29 Thread Mike Schwab
Our site used 6 minutes. On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 7:36 PM Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 12/29/2023 3:20 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: > > This paper from Scott Chapman of EPS talks about the subject and he > agrees with > > me that it should be no longer than 15 minutes and that RMF/SMF should > be synced. > > >

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-30 Thread Colin Paice
With the MQ people - it ranged from 10 minutes up to 1 hour. The default is 30 mins MQ 9.3.0 has enhanced its stats and accounting to provide granularity at .ss - down to the seconds level. See https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/ibm-mq/9.3?topic=module-using-csq6sysp#q019300___acctime For example

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-30 Thread Jim Elliott
I do a lot of zCP3000 studies and most customers sending me data seem to be using a 15 minute interval. I have a couple using 30 minutes (and one 20 minutes), but I prefer 15 minutes for my studies. Regards, Jim -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-30 Thread Scott Chapman
Yeah, the stuff I said there, plus... we see data from a lot of systems. Periodically I sample that data for interesting values, including what the SMF interval is. Historically that has been 15 minutes for right around 90% of the systems we see. Next most popular is 30 minutes in about 5% of

Re: SMF Interval

2023-12-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steve, JWT too low would cause 522s, not 322s. Regards, David On 2023-12-29 16:51, Steve Beaver wrote: Sorry my bad. I was the thinking about JWT Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:49, Steve Beaver wrote: Be careful setting in low. If TS

Re: SMF Interval

2024-01-19 Thread Cheryl Watson
://watsonwalker.com/publications/presentations/ and scan down to 2015. Cheers, Cheryl On Dec 29, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:57:35 -0600, Mark Zelden mailto:m...@mzelden.com>> wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 21:23:18 -0800, Ed Jaffe > wrote: > >> What SMF i

Re: SMF Interval (and zCP3000)

2023-12-30 Thread Tom Brennan
ts, has matched their SMF interval. Check out the peaks in this sample of the same 15 minute SMF data extracted with 30 and then 15: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/extract30.png https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/extract15.png If you happen to know, what happens if you start with 30 minut