Argh, found this in my Drafts folder, never sent. Figured with SHARE coming up,
might be worth correcting some misapprehensions.
Lynn wrote:
>The problem was 1) it was as easy to make counterfeit chipcards as magstipe
>and 2) they had moved business rules out into the chip. A chipcard terminal
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:20:22 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
>
>And airlines are advertising "cash-free cabins", meaning that they no
>longer have to make change, carry a float, and deal with multiple
>currencies.
>
Are the terminals exchange-rate savvy? Does the customer get a choice
of currencies?
On 24 November 2015 at 06:04, R.S. wrote:
> We also have embossed cards but we don't use imprinters at all, for years.
> AFAIR the last time my card was imprinted was Radisson Wilshire in LA or
> some other hotel in Chicago. It was after 11 Sept 2001.
The last time my card was run through an imp
W dniu 2015-11-23 o 23:33, Smith III, Phil (HP Data Security (Voltage))
pisze:
R.S. wrote:
I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops
in the Forest do not have card terminal?
I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such cards.
BTW: US is last count
: CC usage in Germany (Europe) [WAS: Were you at SHARE in Seattle?
Watch your credit card statements!]
R.S. wrote:
>I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops
>in the Forest do not have card terminal?
I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw
SHARE in Seattle?
Watch your credit card statements!]
R.S. wrote:
>I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops
>in the Forest do not have card terminal?
I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such cards.
>BTW: US is last country wher
Radoslaw:
What do you not understand?
The villages and towns that I went to do not take credit cards
with chips or without. They want Euros.
The banks in the small towns expect you to use a card with a pin.
They do not care if it is from USA or Japan. They can't do a
manual transaction beca
R.S. wrote:
>I don't understand. Is it a problem with your card/bank or rather small shops
>in the Forest do not have card terminal?
I suspect this is limitation of your card. I saw such cards.
>BTW: US is last country where my card were imprinted (embossed), it is
>probably also last place on E
; a.k.a. "fallback").
In this case the merchant takes the hit.
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:51:36 -0600
> From: mike.a.sch...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
> On Sun, Nov 2
While Chip & PIN I believe is the standard in Europe, Chip & Sig is more common
in the U.S.
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:40:57 -0500
> From: 0050619ca8df-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statement
W dniu 2015-11-22 o 17:02, Steve Thompson pisze:
On 11/22/2015 07:52 AM, Vince Coen wrote:
UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of
transaction.
C & P (chip and pin) has been in use in the UK (and Europe) for
some years.
For Americans who do not travel to Germany (o
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> At 08:42 -0600 on 11/22/2015, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Were you at
> SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st:
>
>> The biggest incentive was on merchants to get chip-card-capable readers
>> in place to avoid higher fraud liabil
At 08:42 -0600 on 11/22/2015, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Were you
at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st:
The biggest incentive was on merchants to get chip-card-capable readers
in place to avoid higher fraud liability, and at least most of the
merchants I frequent have complied, Wi
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Hunt down Phil Smith's SHARE pr
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None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the
issuing institutio
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None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the
issuing institutions. I shopped yesterday at an upscale supermarket using my
magstripe card. The clerk pointed out that the
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On 11/21/2015 10:27 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> At 09
On 11/22/2015 07:52 AM, Vince Coen wrote:
UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of
transaction.
C & P (chip and pin) has been in use in the UK (and Europe) for
some years.
For Americans who do not travel to Germany (or Europe much):
I hadn't been in Germany for abou
On 11/21/2015 10:27 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> At 09:04 -0700 on 11/21/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Were you
> at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st:
>
>> On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels
cred
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card
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UK Chip & pin only requires a pin code to be entered at time of transaction.
Procedure for online transactions only needs the CCV code (on back of
card in signature strip) to be passed along with the card no (16
digits), expiry date, name on card, verification of address on card is
used for de
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Ah Chip & PIN at last.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud &
slight mainframe related trivia.
chip&protocol had a booth at the '99 world-wide retail banking
conference ... along with press release ... in this old post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#x959bai X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI
leading up to the conference ... we spent a lot of time with
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com (Martin Packer) writes:
> Ah Chip & PIN at last.
there was a large pilot deployment in the US around the turn of the
century ... however it was in the "YES CARD" period ... the issue was it
was possible to use the same skimming exploits to collect information
for counterfe
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At 09:04 -0700 on 11/21/2015, Paul Gilmar
Sure and if they don't guarantee it go to another hotel.
Ed
On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels
credit card system should be secure.
Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to
tell potential c
Gilmartin
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On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
>> Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card
>&
At 09:04 -0700 on 11/21/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Were you
at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st:
On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels
credit card system should be secure.
Seriously Ed? Do you really thi
On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card
system should be secure.
Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell
potential customers their credit card system is insecure?
Credit card compan
> Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card
> system should be secure.
Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell
potential customers their credit card system is insecure?
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software,
Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit
card system should be secure.
Ed
On Nov 20, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
The Seattle Sheraton was breached for a time range that included
March of
2015.
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/Media/PDF/Corporate/Hotel
The Seattle Sheraton was breached for a time range that included March of
2015.
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/Media/PDF/Corporate/Hotel_List.pdf
Also the Orlando Dolphin but not while SHARE was there!
Charles
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