Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Tom Marchant
So we get to have our semi-annual DST discussion three times this year. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Gibney, Dave
If I had a say, I would prefer to keep DST and end the switch back to Standard. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject:

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > Another motivation for DST, I was told as a kid, was to encourage working > stiffs to cultivate vegetable gardens. DST was a war measure after all, and > food was a critical resource. What impact DST ever had on

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
There was a great deal of debate over DST during the petro crisis of the early 1970s. Proposal then was to make DST the year-round standard for further energy saving--if DST really saves energy at all. One debating point was the specter of millions of children waiting for school buses in the

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread zMan
And then there are the clocks we have that automatically do DST--but which predate the semi-recent date adjustment. So instead of having to adjust the clocks twice a year like most clocks, we have to adjust these FOUR times a year. Yay. And no, there's no switch to disable it (so I guess they

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread scott Ford
So I guess no one ever thought about stopping the usage of DST.. A bunch of us would be gratefullol Scott On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:49 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:23:58 -0500, Allan Kielstra wrote: > > >The start date

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:23:58 -0500, Allan Kielstra wrote: >The start date and end date for DST was adjusted sometime in the decade of the >2000s. ... > 2007: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States#2005.E2.80.932009:_Second_extension > ... Again, this was done

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Allan Kielstra
The start date and end date for DST was adjusted sometime in the decade of the 2000s. Again, this was done as an energy saving scheme. I can't find the evidence of it at the moment but I recall another instance of the law of unintended consequences. Apparently, (at least in the US) early in

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:52:41 -0400, Steve Smith wrote: >Man, I'd love to use these to start a campaign called "DST Kills". > >But so far, only seems to affect bad guys. :-( > May I put in a word for UTC for critical timestamps? And Olson TZ database for z/OS and z/VM? And Leap Second Smearing?

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Mike Schwab
DST was started to save electric lighting costs. But since the introduction of Air Conditioning, DST often gets people home right at the hottest part of the day, so A/Cs that were set to let the temperature climb during the day kick in to cool down for occupancy right when the demand is highest.

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Steve Smith
Man, I'd love to use these to start a campaign called "DST Kills". But so far, only seems to affect bad guys. :-( sas On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > Israel in 1999 switched early to standard time for pre-dawn prayers. > Palestinian bombers were

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Mike Schwab
Israel in 1999 switched early to standard time for pre-dawn prayers. Palestinian bombers were still on DST and transporting bombs when they went off, thinking they had another hour. http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-38.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Summer_Time Oh, geeze, no

Re: xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread Steve Smith
from http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1883 "Supervillains have reason to fear daylight saving time issues. In 1999, two coordinated car bombings ended up killing the terrorists transporting the bombs when they exploded one hour early. Details explained e.g. on the Darwin Awards site. "

xkcd is too true, but posted at the wrong time.

2017-08-31 Thread John McKown
This is so true around here during the time change. https://xkcd.com/1883/ -- Caution! The OP is an hyperpolysyllabicsesquipedalianist and this email may cause stress to those with hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia. Maranatha! <>< John McKown