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Date:Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:50:07 +
From:"Pommier, Rex"
Subject: Re: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
Hi Radoslaw,
I knew you meant it as a joke and I took
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To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:58 PM CDT
Subject: Re: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
Looking in my wayback machine I recall an operator who accidentally pushed the
IML button on our 3033 console a couple of times. After the second time, we
ins
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of
> Radoslaw Skorupka
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 10:26 AM
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> Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
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> Obviously the
and train
the guilty party.
Rex
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 10:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
Obviously the part about killing was only poor
ot allow the logging of the quiesce command to take
place.
Rex
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 8:07 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
agree 100%, when I tested the c
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Bill Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 9:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
So the person who issued the quiesce isn’t honest enough to come forward?
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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 10:03 AM, Carmen
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have no clue what caused the wait
state, IPL would have been my fist option, then diagnose the outage.
Carmen Vitullo
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From: Rex
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Wednesday, 24 March 2021 8:58 AM CDT
Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
I'm going to agree with *most
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Wednesday, 24 March 2021 8:58 AM CDT
Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
I'm going to agree with *most* of it. I don't like the part about killing the
RACF admin. I'm not the one who initially set up the OPERCMDS security but I
missed the fact the QUIESCE command wasn't set
day, March 24, 2021 8:07 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
agree 100%, when I tested the command on my sandbox system I see my ID in the
syslog as the culprit :) if done from a console, then the console name is
shown.
Carmen Vitullo
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: Re: z14 HMC log information
IMHO there should be a trace in a syslog. Maybe that part of syslog is
somehow lost.
And it would be good idea to have SMF record for that command. I don't
know about console commands, but SMF80 could be cut if you take care
about AUDIT(ALL(READ)) in advance. I mean
sion.
Rex
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 7:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
There is a queisce command to put a job to sleep, and I think that's what my
ia an SDSF-like console session.
Rex
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 7:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
There is a queisce command to put a job to sleep, a
Vitullo
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From: Radoslaw
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Wednesday, 24 March 2021 5:35 AM CDT
Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
IMHO not really.
By freezing the system you disrupt all the online processing and you
loose capability to find out what's wrong.
I had to do
s and how it works I doubt I'll ever forget this one.
Rex
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
WOW
> Rex
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it works I doubt I'll ever forget this one.
Rex
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
WOW! this takes me back 20
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kekronbekron
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
Please do share when you find out!
I wonder if an LPAR with full BCPii authority over the box can silently
query/log info
I do now. :-) Somehow it got missed a long time ago and nobody noticed it.
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Radoslaw Skorupka
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Subject: Re: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
t.
Thanks everybody for the bandwidth and suggestions.
Rex
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kekronbekron
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Please do share when you find out!
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kekronbekron
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
Please do share when you find out!
I wonder if an LPAR with full BCPii authority over the box can silently
query/
No sysplex. A couple stand-alone LPARs on the box.
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
so the only other thing I can
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> Date: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 4:33 PM CDT
> Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
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> Nothing out of the ordinary in the HMC logs.
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> C
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when this happened to me there was no indication anyone did anything the system
was just removed from the plex
Carmen Vitullo
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From: Rex
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 4:33 PM CDT
Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
Nothing out
I'd run EREP on all lpars, for some hardware failures the other lpars will
have an event recorded.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 4:24 AM Pommier, Rex
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Probably a simple question but I'm not having any luck looking for it so
> I'm asking here.
>
> Is there a centralized place on a
, March 16, 2021 1:10 PM
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
> Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
>
> so it looks like one place to check is from the HMC, /console actions/View
> control tasks performed, this may get you what you need another place is from
> conso
Nothing out of the ordinary in the HMC logs.
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
so it looks like one place to check
: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: z14 HMC log information
Any chance that the system abended?
Seems worth looking into your operator logs.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:51 PM Pommier, Rex
wrote:
> I found the log - nothing in it. Heading off to
> Of Pommier, Rex
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:24 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [External] z14 HMC log information
>
> Hi all,
>
> Probably a simple question but I'm not having any luck looking for it so
> I'm asking here.
>
> Is there a centra
2021 12:51 PM CDT
Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
I found the log - nothing in it. Heading off to IBM.
Rex
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Pommier, Rex
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:24 PM
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Subject: [External] z14 HMC
on? or
there's another log you need to check.
let me check my HMC log
Carmen Vitullo
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From: Rex
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:51 PM CDT
Subject: Re: z14 HMC log information
I found the log - nothing in it. Heading off to IBM.
Rex
I found the log - nothing in it. Heading off to IBM.
Rex
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Pommier, Rex
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] z14 HMC log information
Hi all,
Probably a simple
Hi all,
Probably a simple question but I'm not having any luck looking for it so I'm
asking here.
Is there a centralized place on a z14 HMC to show activity occurring, LPAR
activation/deactivation, pretty much anything that happens on an HMC or on a z.
We just took a hit where one of our
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