Re: RSCS NJE SCTC to JES

2007-05-08 Thread Dale Smith
Rick, we run two NJE connections from one VM system to two MVS JES2 systems and yes the JES2 end must be defined as BCTC and the VM end must be defined as SCTC. This is a real PITA when we do DR tests as we always have to tell the DR provider, "Yes, they have to be defined as BCTC.". I t us

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Michael Short
The one-pack MUSIC system does run on real hardware, well it does run a current CP (tried it on 4.3 with the DASD overlaid on V-disk). I didn't have real FBA devices to try that portion. On 5/8/07, Dave Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyon

Re: RSCS NJE SCTC to JES

2007-05-08 Thread Raymond Noal
Rick, In the z/OS version 1.8 JES / 2 Init and Tuning Guide it states - Channel-to-channel (CTC) connections are identical to BSC communications except CTC connections do not use EP or PEP. CTC connections are best suited for connections to nodes within the same computer facility. NJE protocol

RSCS NJE SCTC to JES

2007-05-08 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>I am trying to determine if there is still a restriction that an ESCON CTC >between RSCS and z/OS JES must be defined as BCTC rather than SCTC. The >last time I looked at this was 1999 and it was still a restriction. I know >that RSCS V3R2 can handle SCTC between RSCS systems. I can't find anyt

RSCS NJE SCTC to JES

2007-05-08 Thread Rick Barlow
I am trying to determine if there is still a restriction that an ESCON CTC between RSCS and z/OS JES must be defined as BCTC rather than SCTC. The last time I looked at this was 1999 and it was still a restriction. I know that RSCS V3R2 can handle SCTC between RSCS systems. I can't find anything

Re: Interesting article

2007-05-08 Thread Tony Thigpen
I like the following point: "Everything is consolidated on the same System z9 platform, and the machine can be run at nearly full processor capacity without falling over dead--unlike X64 servers, which rarely run at peak capacity." Somebody is finally getting it. Tony Thigpen -Original

Re: TCP/IP VM Documentation

2007-05-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
Sergio, You can also get product doc here: http://www.vm.ibm.com/library/ Click on Library Center, Bookshelf or PDF Library for your release. The TCP/IP feature manuals will be there. Sergio Lima wrote: Hello, I'm trying find a Manual, or may be a little guide of how install , and IVP t

Re: RES: TCP/IP VM Documentation

2007-05-08 Thread Sergio Lima
Mr. Carlos... I will try there... Thanks Big Old Man.. "Carlos A. Bodra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(

RES: TCP/IP VM Documentation

2007-05-08 Thread Carlos A. Bodra
Hello Old man! Try http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/cgi-bin/searchsite.cgi?query=tcp/ip+AND+vm _ De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Sergio Lima Enviada em: terça-feira, 8 de maio de 2007 18:05 Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Assunto: TCP/IP VM Documenta

Re: CP TERM ESCAPE not working when setting PER

2007-05-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/08/2007 at 07:35 CET, "Ian S. Worthington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is, if I understand it correctly, that the "#", (or in my case the > ";") *is* being issued from an exec and the ";" is being interpreted as the > linend character. Correct. Alan Altmark z/VM Dev

Re: SPOOL volume disk error

2007-05-08 Thread Bill Holder
Yes, I agree. Mikhael, please call this in to the service center and sen d in the dump for the PFE002 if you have it. That abend could certainly ha ve been triggered by the spool volume problem, but it's almost certainly a separate problem in our memory management subsystem, and one which we won

TCP/IP VM Documentation

2007-05-08 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello, I'm trying find a Manual, or may be a little guide of how install , and IVP the TCP/IP from VM. Someone know a easy way to found this ? Thanks very much Sergio Lima Costa System Consultant __ Fale com seus amigos de gr

Re: vmsecure doc

2007-05-08 Thread Hines, Bernard (MSFC-NNM04AA02C)[IBM BART]
Did you try going out to the Ca-web site? I pulled in mine from there. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James M Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: vmsecure doc Hello- Can anyone point me to v

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Edward M. Martin
I can do a beer in the Austin Area. Is anyone going to WAVV? Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David Kreuter > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:4

Re: CP TERM ESCAPE not working when setting PER

2007-05-08 Thread Kris Buelens
Yes indeed: in execs CP's line editing characters it should not be interpreted but remain part of the command string. And, this should be straigthforward: XEDIT interprets it always (terminal or execs), CP only on terminal input. So on a terminal, CP commands should be interpreted. Confusion st

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread David Kreuter
Is your offer just for Rob or any lister? - quite generous! David > If you are in the Austin area sometime, let me know and I'll buy you a beer.

Re: CP TERM ESCAPE not working when setting PER

2007-05-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
If it not part of a comment, literal or value of a variable, it is. If it is inside a quoted or delimited string or is part of a comment, it is not interpreted as end-of-statement. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] O

Re: CP TERM ESCAPE not working when setting PER

2007-05-08 Thread George Haddad
Isn't the semi-colon also the Rexx end-of-stmt character? Sorry if this is a silly question (since I've deleted the original post), but is it possible that it's Rexx that's interpreting it as 2 commands, and not CP? Ian S. Worthington wrote: Kris -- The problem is, if I understand it correctl

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Paul Raulerson
Well Rob - I maanged pretty much to buy, install, and bring up our zSeries here with z/VM and Linux, with only a few little gotcha's here and there. And keep it running for near on four years now. I'm not an IBM Systems Programmer, but I do resemble one at times. If you are in the Austin area so

Re: CP TERM ESCAPE not working when setting PER

2007-05-08 Thread Ian S. Worthington
Kris -- The problem is, if I understand it correctly, that the "#", (or in my case the ";") *is* being issued from an exec and the ";" is being interpreted as the linend character. ian ... -- Original Message -- Received: Tue, 08 May 2007 08:37:06 AM BST From: Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 5/8/07, Paul Raulerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well- I was being polite, since this is pretty obviously a sore subject with you for some reason. I was being polite too, as we all are on this list. There is nothing sore about this with me, but I consider myself a bit more knowledgeable th

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Dave Wade
--- David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone written a third party OS that can > easily replace CMS? > > None are "easy" replacements, but IMHO there are > several possible > candidates: > > MUSIC > Linux > Solaris (coming soon) > > Only MUSIC is really "CMS-like". The other two a

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
Try Melinda Varian's history of VM at http://www.princeton.edu/~melinda/25paper.pdf Regards, Richard Schuh VM on the mainframe however, was being driven from different motivations. Perhaps someone here will share and contrast those reasona and activite

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Paul Raulerson
A great summation Phil, and accurate. VM (and z/OS) are *comfortable* environments, because almost everything you can do you can only do one or two ways, and they are usually pretty darn well documented. In business, this is a *wonderful* thing. :) In UNIX, if there are not at least 5 different

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Paul Raulerson
> No, I have looked, and CMS Pipelines are nice indeed. But then so are pipes > under UNIX; indeed, pipes are the very core of UNIX. If you are not annoyed > by discussing it, I would love to hear your opinions on what is so primitive > about UNIX. :) As I said: leaky garden hose. The analogy hold

Re: vmsecure doc

2007-05-08 Thread Nordahl, Mark
If you go to CA's site (http://supportconnect.ca.com/sc/support/Index) and get yourself a supportconnect userid, you can login and there are extra options under the "downloads" link on the left hand side of the page - one of them being "Documentation". You should be able to find what you are look

Re: vmsecure doc

2007-05-08 Thread Imler, Steven J
Hi James, You need to go to SupportConnect.ca.com to access the online documenation. JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

vmsecure doc

2007-05-08 Thread James M
Hello- Can anyone point me to vmsecure documentation on the web please? Looked on ca.com and google to no avail. Thanks. -James

Re: Interesting article

2007-05-08 Thread Dave Jones
"time flies...like an arrow. But fruit flies like a banana..." I think I need more coffee now. Phil Smith III wrote: http://www.itjungle.com/tlb/tlb050807-story01.html This might relate to the mainframe-Cell BE hybrid article that we all speculated on last week (or was it two weeks ago? Time f

Interesting article

2007-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
http://www.itjungle.com/tlb/tlb050807-story01.html This might relate to the mainframe-Cell BE hybrid article that we all speculated on last week (or was it two weeks ago? Time flies...) -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III (703) 476-4511 (office) (703) 568-6662 (cell)

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Raulerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No, I have looked, and CMS Pipelines are nice indeed. But then so are pipes >under UNIX; indeed, pipes are the very core of UNIX. If you are not annoyed >by discussing it, I would love to hear your opinions on what is so primitive >about UNIX. :) This is

Re: z/VM usability

2007-05-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 5/8/07, Paul Raulerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, I have looked, and CMS Pipelines are nice indeed. But then so are pipes under UNIX; indeed, pipes are the very core of UNIX. If you are not annoyed by discussing it, I would love to hear your opinions on what is so primitive about UNIX. :)

Re: CP TERM ESCAPE not working when setting PER

2007-05-08 Thread Kris Buelens
Unlike SET PF IMMED which ignores the line editing chars at SET time, interpreting them when you press the PF key. Things are not that simple. (the IMMED option on SET PF is not important here). If you are in TERM MODE VM and enter in RUNNING mode and issue CP SET PF6 #CP Q T It becomes two c

Route changes

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