Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Robert J Brenneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem will be when you've allocated huge vdisks for all your production systems based on the old Swap = 2X main memory ROT. In that example - you're basically tripling your overcommit ratio by including the

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/12/2008 at 01:53 EDT, Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My recollection is that the port name must be the same everywhere or absent everywhere. Try removing your port names and see if that works. Port names are meaningful to z/OS, not Linux or z/VM. It is ok if some are

Re: VSWITCH VLAN-aware not connecting

2008-05-13 Thread David Boyes
With the assumption that the real switch is configured properly, what are the best things to trouble-shoot on the VM side, to prove or disprove my definitions? It would also be helpful to post the output of show interface for the trunk port (do it in enable mode to get the full details) for

Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-05-13 Thread Ivica Brodaric
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port names are meaningful to z/OS, not Linux or z/VM. It is ok if some are using port names and others are not. If you are using port names, then all users must have the same port name. First one in wins. Which means -

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Barton Robinson
My use of the term over-commit is more simple with the objective of setting a target that management understands. I don't include vdisk - that is a moving target based on tuning and workload, as is the use of CMM1. The way I like to use the term is much higher level that doesn't change based

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
My ratio is about 2.6 that represents a large (proportionately) number of CMS users. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Overcommit ratio

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ratio is about 2.6 that represents a large (proportionately) number of CMS users. That's unfair. CMS users just take what they need, not what you let them have... You may be able to over-commit by 1000 when they

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread RPN01
I only calculate it for the Linux images, for the reason that Rob states. Our two systems are currently at 1.9:1 and 1.4:1. I found this number useful enough that I have a rexx script that calculates it on the fly. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Barton Robinson
Ah yes, CMS is very different animal - it knows how to work well in a virtual environment. I think I remember numbers way above 20, so high nobody bothered to measure. Huegel, Thomas wrote: My ratio is about 2.6 that represents a large (proportionately) number of CMS users. -Original

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Marcy Cortes
Barton wrote: Using this measure, what do y'all run? Is there a Velocity screen that adds them all up? I don't want to resort to excel :) What I'm looking for is a fair way to determine who should be allocated cost of the memory (not exactly chargeback) based on their impact to the system.

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Bruce Hayden
A few weeks ago, I put a package on the VM download library called VIR2REAL, which is an exec that calculates the ratio on your running system. I just got an update out there today that gives you the ratio for all users and also with out CMS users. (I figure a CMS user is one IPLed with a

Re: VSWITCH VLAN-aware not connecting

2008-05-13 Thread Jay Ableidinger
I'm the network side of this issue. Here is what I see on the interface and the relevent config: SMF02#sh int gigabiteth0/4 GigabitEthernet0/4 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 000a.b8ae.f504 (bia 000a.b8ae.f504) MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread Stephen Frazier
My overcommit ratio is about 5:1 not counting CMS users. If you count them it is more like 15:1. It seems to work fine. I don't think overcommit ratio is very useful for anything. It is two dependent on the kind of users you have to be meaningful. Marcy Cortes wrote: I keep hearing things

LACP in 5.3

2008-05-13 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hello, We're investigating the set up for vswitch in LACP mode. We've discovered that unless you have a feature in your cisco switches out there that make 2 of them appear to be one (something like feature 1440 on the 6509), you have a single point of failure in your switch hardware. There

VSWITCH new to me and want to understand

2008-05-13 Thread Robert Payne
Current configuration is; z800 with 3 OSA cards (6 NIC) all OSA used as QDIO 4 are 10/100 copper 2 are 1000 fiber (only 1 fiber cable but we plan to buy another) z/VM 5.2 with TCP/IP using 1 dedicated 100Mb connection (very little traffic) VSE guest with Barnard

Re: VSWITCH new to me and want to understand

2008-05-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
You are on the right track, but you will want to look at the z/VM CONNECTIVITY GUIDE for some good explainations and an example or two. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Payne Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:27 PM To:

Re: VSWITCH new to me and want to understand

2008-05-13 Thread Robert Payne
Great ! THANKS !!! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VSWITCH new to me and want to understand You are on the right track, but you will

Re: Displaying data space storage in a VMDUMP

2008-05-13 Thread David Kreuter
the space needs to have been dumped - what is the filetype that DUMPLOAD created? David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Gillis, Mark Sent: Tue 5/13/2008 4:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Displaying data space storage in a

Displaying data space storage in a VMDUMP

2008-05-13 Thread Gillis, Mark
Does anyone know how to display data space storage in DUMPSCAN? The DUMPSCAN DISPLAY command doesn't seem to know about ALETs. Thanks in advance, Mark Gillis Senior Software Engineer Tel: +61 2 9429 2337 Fax: +61 2 9429 2394 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Displaying data space storage in a VMDUMP

2008-05-13 Thread Gillis, Mark
DUMP0001. I don't see any operands on the display command, though, for specifying an ALET, or anything else that would identify the data space. Mark. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Displaying data space storage in a VMDUMP

2008-05-13 Thread Neale Ferguson
Shouldn¹t you be using VMDUMPTL? It has a command (VMDTSET) that allows you to specify an ASCE when doing displays of storage. Does anyone know how to display data space storage in DUMPSCAN? The DUMPSCAN DISPLAY command doesn¹t seem to know about ALETs.

Re: Displaying data space storage in a VMDUMP

2008-05-13 Thread Gillis, Mark
Thanks, I wasn't aware of the existence of VMDUMPTL - I'll check it out. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 7:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Displaying data space

Re: VM performance graph question

2008-05-13 Thread Alan Ackerman
This list does not accept attachments, so we can not see it. Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com