Re: VSM - TCPIP

2010-09-16 Thread Mark Pace
AMEN. My father is retired IBMer and we moved a lot. My stint with IBM was to short to have been moved. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: IBM-I've Been Moved---even if not relocated. Jim On 9/15/2010 9:28 PM, Chip Davis wrote: And I guess Scott

Re: Hillgang October Meeting

2010-09-16 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
I will be attending. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 -Original Message- From: Neale Ferguson [mailto:ne...@sinenomine.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:

Re: VSM - TCPIP

2010-09-16 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Are you looking to do something like this?QN EXEC: /* QUERY NAMES replacement */ Trace O Address COMMAND PIPE (endchar ?), | CP QUERY NAMES, | ZONE 9.1 NFIND -||, | SPLIT ,, | STRIP, | SORT, | SPEC 1.15 1.16,

Re: Hillgang October Meeting

2010-09-16 Thread Michel Beaulieu
Hello, I am not able to attend. However, I am very much interested to learn more about zPDT. Michel Beaulieu Montreal, Canada |*| Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:33:37 -0400 From: baue...@mail.nih.gov Subject: Re: Hillgang October Meeting To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I will be

Re: VSM - TCPIP

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Rohling
Hi Frank -- Yes, that pipe looks like it makes good use of rules 1 and 2 and comes up with a good list. Nicely done - thanks! I still don't think the VSM info should be under Q NAMES - and those sneaky rules make me suspect it was a shoehorn :-) But it's been interesting and now at least I

Updates to requirements WAVV201007, WAVV201012

2010-09-16 Thread David Boyes
Forwarded without comment. User Group Number - WAVV201007 Document Status - Recognized Title - Provide DSE option on CMS TAPE IBM agrees with the request and a solution appears to be a desirable objective. A solution however may not presently appear feasible or implementable. No IBM

Re: VSM - TCPIP

2010-09-16 Thread Ethan Lanz
Or simply PIPE CP QUERY NAMES|NFIND VSM - |CONS feeds nicely into additional piping. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Frank -- Yes, that pipe looks like it makes good use of rules 1 and 2 and comes up with a good list. Nicely done -

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Mike At HammockTree
Since the STORBUF setting is exactly the values I suggested, I suspect you applied the SET SRM STORBUFF 300% 250% 200% prior to doing the Q SRM With the current setting for STORBUFF, are you still experiencing the problem? Also, on a related note, what does your zVM paging system look like?

Re: VSM - TCPIP

2010-09-16 Thread Bruce Hayden
You should use nfind VSM_- to make sure you don't match a userid that starts with VSM that happens to be logged in via a VSM machine. Remember that pipeline find uses a blank to match any character, and an underscore to match a blank. In this case, you want to make sure blanks follow VSM.

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Dave Jones
Actually, Mike, he may be better off (a bit, at least) by setting STORBUFF 300 300 300. On 09/16/2010 09:58 AM, Mike At HammockTree wrote: Since the STORBUF setting is exactly the values I suggested, I suspect you applied the SET SRM STORBUFF 300% 250% 200% prior to doing the Q SRM With

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Mike At HammockTree
Yeah, that is probably where he needs to end up Dave, but I'm a little hesitant to recommend the 300% for Q3 without feeling more comfortable about his paging subsystem... Moving a couple of large guests from the E-list to in-Q could cause a increase in paging that he may or may not be

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Tate
CP Q ALLOC PAGE gives me invalid option - alloc. I didnt set the SRM variables; the consultant who initially came in to set this up might have. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mike At HammockTree m...@hammocktree.us wrote: Yeah, that is probably where he needs to end up Dave, but I'm a

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Dave Jones
Daniel, your z/VM user id needs to have class D privileges to issue the Q ALLOC PAGE command. On 09/16/2010 10:42 AM, Daniel Tate wrote: CP Q ALLOC PAGE gives me invalid option - alloc. I didnt set the SRM variables; the consultant who initially came in to set this up might have. On

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Mike At HammockTree
(I use MAINT too much..) If your SRM STORBUFF values are as you say, then STORBUFF is unlikely to be causing the problem, although still possible. The next time the problem occurs, do the CP IND and check for an Eligible list. If the E3 numbers are non-zero, then try raising the

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Tate
EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH% VOLID RDEV STARTEND PAGES IN USE PAGE USED -- -- -- -- -- -- VM6PG1 9F86 1 10016 1761K 1175K 1761K 66% VM6PG2 9F87 0 0180180180

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
Well, that's why! You need more page space. Preferably volumes with nothing else on them. And spread it over multiple LCUs if you can. Keep it 35%. 50 max - but I prefer 35 in case you add things and aren't paying attention. marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: VSM - TCPIP

2010-09-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Part of my LISTSG tool is USERLIST, displays the user of users in a FILELIST fashion http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?LISTSG *USERLIST * -- list everyone *USERLIST LIN** -- list users starting with LIN *USERLIST CP Q NSS USERS CMS|drop 2|Split* -- lists all users that use

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread David Boyes
-- -- -- -- -- -- VM6PG1 9F86 1 10016 1761K 1175K 1761K 66% VM6PG2 9F87 0 0180180180 100% Mmf. You need to update the allocation bitmap on VM6PG2 to have it use the rest of the disk (assuming it's

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Mark Pace
Depending on your workload, that is not very much paging space at all. Is it enough to back up all the defined virtual storage? On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Tate daniel.t...@gmail.com wrote: EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH% VOLID RDEV START

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Rohling
It appears that you didn't allocate any cylinders VM6PG2 as page space. Not sure how safe it is to detach that volume - or if a DRAIN will even work .. For now - you may want to sacrifice another volume (VM6PG3) - allocate it correctly (PAGE 1 END) -- do the DEF CPOWN SLOT x VM6PG3..Then you

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Kris Buelens
You are paging on one disk only, and that disk is filled too much. My guess is that the one installing VM6PG2 as paging device forgot format that disk. Get a link to a fullpack overlaying VM6PG2 (eg DEFINE MDISK 0 END VM6PG2) Issue ICKDSF press enter twice CPVOL LIST UNIT()

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Rohling
Oh - and make sure you FORMAT the entire volume or that it's already formatted when you do the allocation -- otherwise, you'll get paging errors and likely abend. (That would be CPFMTXA 9F88 - answer FORMAT - answer 0 END - give it label - after format - answer PAGE 1 END - followed by END for

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: You are paging on one disk only, and that disk is filled too much. My guess is that the one installing VM6PG2 as paging device forgot format that disk. The 180 blocks suggests that he got at least the allocation

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2010-09-16 Thread Nik Johnston
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Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
I would just add that for any significant number of z/Linux guests it is imperative that you have a robust paging subsystem and enough spool space to hold CP dumps as well as other spool files. Having a well configured paging subsystem will greatly reduce the possibility of issues when your

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Barton Robinson
Gee Mike, you come to my class and don't learn nothen. the only thing that storbuf does is hurt, turning it off is the only recommendation that anyone ever gives. i look at this thread and So, anyone reading this, IF YOU HAVE A PERFORMANCE PROBLEM, if you send us z/vm monitor data, we

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Rohling
Nice pitch.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote: Gee Mike, you come to my class and don't learn nothen. the only thing that storbuf does is hurt, turning it off is the only recommendation that anyone ever gives. i look at

Re: Updates to requirements WAVV201007, WAVV201012

2010-09-16 Thread Barton Robinson
hehehehehehehe - good performance tools take care of this problem David Boyes wrote: Forwarded without comment. User Group Number - WAVV201012 Document Status - Recognized Title - MONDCSS is too small as shipped IBM agrees with the request and a solution appears to be a desirable