Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-03 Thread Jim Bohnsack
considerations. Jim Doug Shupe wrote: Daniel, You can get a valid/usable backup the z/VSE guest dasd with DDR -ONLY IF- the z/VSE guest is shutdown while performing the backup. You can use z/OS DFDSS to backup the z/VM and z/VSE dasd but (IMHO) it is not a wise solution because of the restore

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE A gotcha with z/OS DFDSS is that you cannot use the stand alone DFDSS to restore CPVOL initialized dasd. In a D/R situation, you have to have z/OS restored enough to be able to run DFDSS under

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE There may be another gotcha. A year ago last June, our shop

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-03 Thread Jim Bohnsack
: Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE =20 =20 There may be another gotcha. A year ago last June, our shop was in the middle of a migration to a new datacenter. The concept was simple: =20 - Copy disks that were to be migrated into a bunker box - a SHARK facility equipped to synchronize data between the two

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, January 03

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-02 Thread Doug Shupe
Daniel, You can get a valid/usable backup the z/VSE guest dasd with DDR -ONLY IF- the z/VSE guest is shutdown while performing the backup. You can use z/OS DFDSS to backup the z/VM and z/VSE dasd but (IMHO) it is not a wise solution because of the restore considerations. With enough

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2007-01-02 Thread August Carideo
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Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread Daniel Allen
I have been given an assignment to backup our z/VM and z/VSE systems. We also run z/OS. I know about DDR. Can I backup/restore both z/VM and z/VSE using DDR ? Can z/OS backup/restore z/VM ?

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread Kris Buelens
Stracka, James (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 2006-12-28 18:59 Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE FDR does a very good job of backup

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Kern
to try a track level restore of z/OS or z/VSE datasets. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:48:00 -0600, Daniel Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot e: I have been given an assignment to backup our z/VM and z/VSE systems. We also run z/OS. I know about DDR. Can I backup/restore both z/VM and z

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE I hope you understand that backing up a running z/VM system may not yield a relyable backup: if a CMS minidisk is being updated while you back it up (using DDR or FDR) it is possible that after a restore the minidisk cannot

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread William Munson
Rick Barlow used to do a very good DR presentation at SHARE showing VM:Backup and VM:Backup HiDRo in all there best. Bill Munson IT Specialist Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Mike Walter wrote: H

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread David Boyes
I have been given an assignment to backup our z/VM and z/VSE systems. We also run z/OS. I know about DDR. Can I backup/restore both z/VM and z/VSE using DDR ? DDR is OS-agnostic. If it's got bits in the standard formats, DDR can dump and restore it. You do need to be cautious about dumping

Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE

2006-12-28 Thread David Boyes
H backup alternatives, their pros and cons would make a pretty good session at SHARE and other user group meetings, no? Already scheduled for WAVV, with a preview at the next Hillgang. 8-)