Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-14 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I use: cp spool console to maint eof Which closes the console after every 50,000 records. If you need it done at midnight or some other time, you could use VMUTIL, or some other home grown exec to issue a close on behalf of a disconnected machine. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Mike Walter

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-14 Thread Les Koehler
Back in my IBM days, I used to close all the console spool files every hour. They went to another DVM on the same system which tracked their timely arrival and then transferred them to my local DVM, which also tracked them and dealt them out to Keeper DVM'S. I, or my backup (or OPS), got MSG

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-14 Thread Mike Walter
Tom (and some others), The original post indicated use of you could use VMUTIL, or some other home grown exec to issue a close on behalf of a disconnected machine. See the text: Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at midnight, or

Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Walter
Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at midnight, or at some time of day. z/VM old-timers have done this for ages, but new z/VM customers don't often have the skills necessary to implement automated closures - or even recognize the

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Rich Smrcina
It's probably best not to dictate how *you* want it implemented. Be very specific in the wording of the requirement and they will figure it out. On 02/11/2011 01:45 PM, Mike Walter wrote: Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Those of us who already have ways to do it would need to convert :-( Actually, having a built-in way to do it would relieve us of the kludges that we have had to construct and would be one less item that new employees would have to learn or relearn. It is something that has been missing since

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Martin Zimelis
David's comment is a perfect example of the reason Rich is exactly right: The requirement should specify the effect you want, not the method of implementation. And don't forget to include the business case for the enhancement in the requirement. Marty

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Tom Huegel
Maybe a good idea, but I doubt it will fly.. With the advent of the FOR command it is simple to put CP FOR abc CMD CLOSE CONS in a WAKEUP file. But if they did buy it how about an enhancement to XAUTOLOG with AT hh:mm:ss? Come to think of it a full date would be better yet.. AT mm/dd/yy hh:mm:ss

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 03:10 EST, Martin Zimelis martin.zime...@gmail.com wrote: David's comment is a perfect example of the reason Rich is exactly right: The requirement should specify the effect you want, not the method of implementation. And don't forget to include the business

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Walter
See? Alan's reply is precisely why I thought it seemed prudent to run it past others for wider consideration. I suspect that there will be many new LoZ (a new Linux on System Z acronym seen recently, and MUCH less to type) customers who will not purchase IBM OM, or CA VM:Operator, but whom

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 04:24 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: See? Alan's reply is precisely why I thought it seemed prudent to run it past others for wider consideration. I suspect that there will be many new LoZ (a new Linux on System Z acronym seen recently, and MUCH

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Scott Rohling
I do not think turning the virtualization engine (CP) into a scheduler (I'm talking command/job scheduler here folks) is a good idea. CMS was designed specifically to be able to 'automate' and issue CP commands as well as CMS ones (which includes a filesystem, commands to read/write files,